Kendrick Lamar Just Recieved The Prestigious XXL
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first off. did i say he was on par with the dudes i grew up listening to in the 90's? NO.@ this.
i dont even know why youre quoting me. was that an accident? because none of this is addressing anything that i said. i'll answer just to be on the safe side. i dont care about how you feel concerning this album or kendrick or lupe or whoever. thats not the point homie.
and its pretty evident that youre riding for dude because youre from cali. its like you typed up an article trying to sound impartial, only to give away your bias with this "best coast" ish at the end. okay buddy.
THIS.
POWERFUL POSTING.
these dudes take me out, the way they go overboard trying to hype up an artist strictly because of their content; completely disregarding the fact that the actualy quality is not up to snuff.
i said for THIS era. it probably is a classic. and of course i will support one of my own west coasters. IF THEY ARE good on that mic and actually talking about something(substance). you can check my record on sohh. i have say a zillion times. the thing that people fail to realize about a lot of gangsta rap back in the day was that it told the entire story. most rappers were not just winning throughout all of their albums. they didnt get the girl, the car, the chains, the money, taking trips, and blowing up their enemies if they think about trying it. most of these dudes albums had them winning and losing. you sell drugs, you make fast money. you get fast cars, you get fast chicks. you get caught by the cops, lose everything you had, have to come back and start from zero. you realize your chick is now carrying another nucca's baby from a rival hood. some W's and some L's. thats real life. thats if nothing else with this KL album shows you.
a lot of big time studio gangstas kept it real in their stories and said they may be bustin guns like crazy. but yet they little cousin gets shot as the car is pulling off. just like that KL skit. that aint new. that was done in the 90's. cause thats the kind of stuff that was really popping off. a lot of dudes trying to be tough, getting people around them shot, jumped, throwin in jail. that had zero to do with it. or only played a small role. its life lessons. when ya mama tells you "i dont think you should be hanging out with those kids" or "you shouldnt hang with your crazy cousin dayday" now you know why.
thats the beauty of TRUTH music with the full story.
you can listen and choose a path in real life.
the truth is, this album isnt even for me or kendrick. he was talking about atime when he was a teen. he's mid 20's now. i'm older then him. this is for them young teens thats out there with no pops, sick of listening to their moms wild out about everything cause she frustrated that she has to do it all since pops aint around. tired of listening to grandma say you need to get some Jesus boy. its for them. someone else thats older then them but not that much older to the point where he cant remember what it was like being a young teen in the hood. and the mistakes he made. you dont have to make. or at minimum you have a clue what the end result could be if you do choose to go down those bad roads.
This is the problem tho'...
nikkas hear the word "classic" and then they say "oh really? lemme see"... so then they listen to a 2012 album with their 1994 ears, and when it doesn't sound like the same shyt they've been listening to for the last damn near 20 years, they get all "NAH MAN THIS AINT NO CLASSIC!"
By that mentality, nothing ever will be classic unless nikkas sit around thinking of how close to music from the early-mid 90s they can make their shyt sound. That's just a
way to listen to music if you so-called love hip-hop... what nikkas really mean is that they just love the 90s, cause it's like nothing before or after it ever gets any respect.I'm not even sayin' the album is a classic... but that "it doesn't sound like what one of my favorite 90s rappers did so it can't be great in its own right" shyt almost ensures that nikkas are never gonna be happy with anything new, so why even listen?
This is the problem tho'...
nikkas hear the word "classic" and then they say "oh really? lemme see"... so then they listen to a 2012 album with their 1994 ears, and when it doesn't sound like the same shyt they've been listening to for the last damn near 20 years, they get all "NAH MAN THIS AINT NO CLASSIC!"
By that mentality, nothing ever will be classic unless nikkas sit around thinking of how close to music from the early-mid 90s they can make their shyt sound. That's just a
I'm not even sayin' the album is a classic... but that "it doesn't sound like what one of my favorite 90s rappers did so it can't be great in its own right" shyt almost ensures that nikkas are never gonna be happy with anything new, so why even listen?
I get what your saying man, but it isn't even a case of listening with "1994 ears". I actually consider Late Registration to be a classic and it hasn't even been a decade since that came out yet.
I think it is a great concept album, but there aren't really tracks or quotes years from now that I can say "moved me". Nothing is wrong with creating a great album after the past material Aftermath has previously released....I just dont think it is a classic.
I'm not being a stubborn old timer from the 90s, I'm just being straight up that I honestly cannot see the classic .....That doesn't have to mean a criticism though. Just that its just great for me right now.
This may sound strange but who knows maybe I need to see some music videos too tao make another determination
the reason you dont see "classic" is because us who grew up listening to the golden era in the 90's or even late 80's. There was a classic formula.
YOu had to have 2 solid unadulterated HITS. this album doesnt have that.
thats because there is no such thing in THIS era of a 90's type of hit.
hits nowadays are ALL the same. southern drum loop underneath, pop/electronica melody synth.. repeated hook. song about chicks, club, drink, I get money.
thats about it.
if you aint following that formula in 2012. you aint got a HIT. and thats not just for radio thats for the average young 2012 listener. they have been bombarded with so much FLUFF its all they know. when it comes to "HIT" music.
for example.
pharcyde - passin me by was a hit to us. there's nothing POP ish, nothing electronica, nothing synthy. its not even a club banger. or a ...street single hood banger. YET everyone from the hood to the burbs already knew. as soon as that hook hits. sang it wit him "SHEEEE KEEPS ON ...passing me byyyyyyyyy (passing me byyyy)"
it was the horns, the organ keys, the lyricist. the delivery, the words. all of it.
There is no such hit like that in Todays new era of POP only Hits music. NON.
you wouldnt know one if you heard it. its been so long since you had a what i would call a NATURAL HIT. where there is no formula.
all of dre's hits, were NATURAL HITS. Non of them sounded the same. sure they had his tag on it. you knew it was dre. but that was about it.
Outkast's hits. i mean Sorry Ms Jackson. as soon as i heard that FUnk synth, with the hook. Sorry ms jackson. OOOOOOOO. i was
HIT. the radio didnt have to tell me nothing.as slow as Southernplayalistic was i knew that was a hit too.
they dont allow hits like that nowadays.So it means producers, nor mcees are even trying to make those type of songs that will produce NATURAL hits anymore.
what kendrick did. that you dont see in MAIN STREAM music. is he gave you a CONCEPT ALBUM> and kept with that concept throughout the album. started a story. went through it and ended it. thats why reading the "making of" on COMPLEX is actually kind of cool to do. i've seen those on complex of other albums from this era. and i see guys reaching for meanings for songs that dont have any meaning other then some nonsense Club, chick, drank, we gets, money.
You cant seperate these songs out on his album. they all go together. he doesnt really have a single if you keep it real. but the album as a whole is TOP Notch for this ERA of music. Give credit where its do.
the IT, in HIT. thats you're looking for in this era of music is no longer there because of what i said above. i'm still looking just like you and the rest of the 90's lovers. but its going to be awhile before we get it. we'll probably be 45 before it happens. lol. IF ... it happens.
It has a lot to do with that poppish, syth, electronica, with the southern drum loop sound that everyone uses now. Its almost like back in the 80's when that AIRY music was out. what i call MIAMI VICE music. phil collins. that sound was the SOUND you had to have back then for that genre of music. if you didnt sound like that. you were not making hits. that meant every artists that belonged in that genre had to sound the same to a degree. that meant people who previously didnt sound anything like that. had to jump on the bandwagon to remain relevant. because even the listeners were so use to the Airy sound thats all they knew. so if you made something different then that. they would call it outdate or not to hot. thats exactly whats going on right now. we're going to have to wait this storm out folks.
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
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seriously man, what the hell are you talking about?
are you quoting me by accident or something?
