ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
Kendrick Lamar just saying shyt.
Not saying dude isn't a Jay-Z fan but its clear that he thinks that 2pac is the G.O.A.T. period.
Kendrick says Jay Z is Goat [Video]
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Kendrick Lamar just saying shyt.
Not saying dude isn't a Jay-Z fan but its clear that he thinks that 2pac is the G.O.A.T. period.
Real
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It's been proven on this board that the white boy is overrated.
ManBearPig
half man half bearpig
People are fukking furious because Kendrick said Jay was his favorite rapper
Nas stans get mad when people think Jay-z is better or the G.O.A.T.
kind of like how Kobe fan get when people give LeBron credit
You know what I forgot he said that shyt....I came in here on the humble but fuk that....how you gon be a Pac stan and Jay stan and decide Jay is the goat
....Jay in my top 4 but......there's no catalogue more complete,no ammount of songs more classic, nikka put out hits from the grave,is the author behind the most stolen album of all time in AEOM, wrote a classic in 3 days.....showed he could do it all,had a whole region shook,revered all over the world and has statues,gets compared to Jesus by Nas,Martin Luther King by Lupe,called the goat by many....there will never be another Pac....Pac wuz out chea,the Marvin Gaye,Bob Marley of rap....respected by great minds and street nikkas alike...sum shyt money just can't buy
....the nerve of this nikka Kendrick,u lookin for a verse nikka? You had it to easy in this game I can see....u need to get spat on by the media,u need these streets tryna take ya valuables and ya breath away,u must not be outchea Kendrick....I had my suspicions but that's the only conclusion to a west coast nikka not havin Pac as the goat....but I heard you a good kid though
,hopefully u stay out these blocks.You know what I forgot he said that shyt....I came in here on the humble but fuk that....how you gon be a Pac stan and Jay stan and decide Jay is the goat
U forget Jay Z keeps Pac living
He's the leader of the Illuminati while Pac is the every living hero and leader of the Killuminati movement that will stop the evil forces of the Roc Nation
On a serious note, I think people really like Pac for his character and his subject matter, I wont deny that ppl worship that guy but imo he didnt have the technical prowess of a Jay Z or Nas
Xtraz2
Superstar
fukk this weirdo 
Pool_Shark
Can’t move with me in this digital space
Jay is the second GOAT after Pac.
Shallow cause I like Jay Dudes don't even listen to music anymore just judge him based on image and extra shyt.
Throw on Reasonable Doubt, In My Lifetime Vol.1, Blueprint 1, Watch The Throne, Black Album, American Gangster.
Your gonna tell me every track on every one of those albums is meaningless garbage? Stop it.
I get it though Jay has to rhyme every single word and then he's a good rapper right? Jay raps about what he's about, success and the struggles that come with it. Does he make the type of songs that have existed in hip-hop before he came on the scene, yeah but why wouldn't he when that's the world he lives in.
Shallow cause I like Jay
Dudes don't even listen to music anymore just judge him based on image and extra shyt.Throw on Reasonable Doubt, In My Lifetime Vol.1, Blueprint 1, Watch The Throne, Black Album, American Gangster.
Your gonna tell me every track on every one of those albums is meaningless garbage? Stop it.
I get it though Jay has to rhyme every single word and then he's a good rapper right? Jay raps about what he's about, success and the struggles that come with it. Does he make the type of songs that have existed in hip-hop before he came on the scene, yeah but why wouldn't he when that's the world he lives in.
U forget Jay Z keeps Pac living
He's the leader of the Illuminati while Pac is the every living hero and leader of the Killuminati movement that will stop the evil forces of the Roc Nation
On a serious note, I think people really like Pac for his character and his subject matter, I wont deny that ppl worship that guy but imo he didnt have the technical prowess of a Jay Z or Nas
Technical prowess I won't say its irrelevant but Pac ain't a bum lyrically....Pacs influenced by Chuck D,Cube,Face..we know there aim ain't to wow you lyrically but they want to wow you with what's bein said and make you feel it....I can knock Nas and Jay for lacking that completely...I say catalogue says it all,who got the most classic albums,who got the most classic songs....Pacs music connects with fans like no other..
nikkas with different influences from different regions aim to do different things.
...every emcee has weakness,complex lyricism ain't the alpha/omega of hiphop,so who can say which weakness is more important than the next....classic songs don't lie,a classic song is a classic song that anybody from any region will feel....who got more o those than Pac
iPod Raheem 2.0
D, mother****er, D.
This is the most subjective kind of debate you can have. First and foremost, everyone has different criteria. For example, Kendrick thinks "stats" are important, and he mentions specifically longevity, money, and sales as key "stats" to determining who is the greatest rapper of all time. In my opinion, outside of longevity, maybe, I don't see how any of that is relevant to rapping and being a great rapper. I think any debate about who is the greatest rapper of all time has to mostly be about the quality of the music. Kendrick is entitled to his opinion, like everyone else, but we all should remember this shyt is subjective as fukk.
CapFromMCU
Pro
This makes no sense, first you say that the discussion is subjective as fck, but then you think the discussion should revolve around the most subjective aspect of the discussion. "The quality of music". The stats are the more objective criteria that a solid discussion can be had on this subject. Though it is not void of bias it is the area with which we can have the least bias.
@StillNotSoft Thats what I'm talking about in my first post in here. I could easily see someone saying Cube, Pac, Ghost, Scarface, Common, Nas etc etc are better than Jay and are more entitled to being the GOAT, but when you stack them up Jay always seems to have the career that seems the most lucrative for an aspiring rapper. Everyone always says they are real like Pac, but I never heard someone say they wanted to die like him or have the same career as him
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iPod Raheem 2.0
D, mother****er, D.
There's no way to get around the subjective nature of the debate. In fact, any attempt to quantify the debate is weird and puzzling. In my opinion, it's impossible to crown the GOAT rapper. You cannot objectively arrive at a determination of who is the GOAT rapper. It's almost a fruitless task. As much as some may want to view rap through some business/commercial lens, we have to keep in mind that it's art. And art is subjective as fukk. Some artists are more popular than others, but that doesn't necessarily mean their art is better. The way I see it: when people argue that someone is the greatest rapper of all time, they usually are just arguing that they enjoy one rapper's music over all others.
There's no way to get around the subjective nature of the debate. In fact, any attempt to quantify the debate is weird and puzzling. In my opinion, it's impossible to crown the GOAT rapper. You cannot objectively arrive at a determination of who is the GOAT rapper. It's almost a fruitless task. As much as some may want to view rap through some business/commercial lens, we have to keep in mind that it's art. And art is subjective as fukk. Some artists are more popular than others, but that doesn't necessarily mean their art is better. The way I see it: when people argue that someone is the greatest rapper of all time, they usually are just arguing that they enjoy one rapper's music over all others.
U know whats funny...your reply matches what I usually say about music in music discussions..
But my Jay Z stannery wouldnt allow me to use this logic
