Kenyon Martin takes Draymond to the glue factory and list 50 PFs better than him all time.

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Nope. Most of these PF aren’t as cerebral a player as Dray, whether running an O with his dribbling and passing and his wing to post defense.

Most of the top PF couldn’t do what he did
Name a top PF who couldn’t do what draymond does? You never seen some of the best PF do it but don’t act like that can’t they’re professionals. The top PF they can adjust.
 

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So a 9x all defense
Dpoy
2x all nba
4x all star
4x champion
44 triple doubles (franchise leader)
Steals leader

Should not be in the hall of fame and is not a great player

Never seen a mod has so many bad takes

Fun fact Dray got more triple doubles than
Curry
Dame
Wade
Kyrie
Melo

Combined lol

:dead:ALL OF HIS ACCOLADES
ARE STRICTLY DUE TO TEAM SUCCESS.

I NEVER SAID HE WOULDNT MAKE
THE HOF.
HE WILL DUE TO TEAM SUCCESS.

LMAO @ ALL OF THOSE 10, 11 & 12
ASS TRIPLE DOUBLES
PASSING TO STEPH, KLAY AND KD.

YA MANS AVERAGES A TRIPLE SINGLE
FOR HIS CAREER.


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:dead:ALL OF HIS ACCOLADES
ARE STRICTLY DUE TO TEAM SUCCESS.

I NEVER SAID HE WOULDNT MAKE
THE HOF.
HE WILL DUE TO TEAM SUCCESS.

LMAO @ ALL OF THOSE 10, 11 & 12
ASS TRIPLE DOUBLES
PASSING TO STEPH, KLAY AND KD.

YA MANS AVERAGES A TRIPLE SINGLE
FOR HIS CAREER.


:devil:
:evil:

My mans is going into the hall of fame first ballot with a triple single
 

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Name a top PF who couldn’t do what draymond does? You never seen some of the best PF do it but don’t act like that can’t they’re professionals. The top PF they can adjust.
Barkley
Malone

and many others.

None of those guys are able to damn near average 9 assists per game because they aren't as cerebral players as Dray. None were wing to post defenders that Draymond is.

Yall stay doing too much hating on dudes.
 

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Name a top PF who couldn’t do what draymond does? You never seen some of the best PF do it but don’t act like that can’t they’re professionals. The top PF they can adjust.
Most of them couldn’t, and guys like Webber couldn’t do it as well—and he tried it to the detriment of the team.

Only KG could do what Draymond does in facilitating an offense.
 

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People in this thread acting like Draymond wasn’t an essential piece to the Warriors. Obviously Curry was the best player but some of y’all are being disingenuous.

In 2025, Draymond is obviously a shell of his former self. But 2013-2019 Dray was one of the better role players in the league. Another example of recency bias.

Funny how all of sudden how people wanna give Dennis Rodman his flowers but at the same time want to act like MJ played with bums.

Duncan Malone Barkley Dirk McHale Duncan Giannis Elvin Hayes

He’s not touching those guys. But the next crop? He’s at the top of that tier when it comes to guys like Pau AD Rodman Webber etc.

The way some of y’all try to rewrite history when a player falls off because you don’t like them is gross and I hate the Warriors.
Draymond was better than Elvin Hayes
(let me be clear, would rather have Draymond on my team than Hayes who was a chucker. He is a better player than Draymond, but he should be in that second tier list)

I would add Jerry Lucas and Bob Petit in that elite list as well.
 
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Draymond has 10 playoff triple doubles (8th all-time). Rodman has zero.

Only players in NBA history with more playoff triple-doubles than Draymond are Magic, Bird, Lebron, Jokic, Luka, Westbrook, and Kidd.

I guess Steph gave Draymond those triple doubles too huh? How come he couldn’t do the same for David Lee, who is supposedly better than Draymond?

 

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What I’m not going to do as an old head with a memory of an elephant is letting other old heads over mythicize past players skills because of their time away from the game.

Kenyon could not defend the perimeter along with Chuck, Malone, Duncan, Dirk, and others.

Draymond could

Kenyon could not bring up the ball and run an offense along Chuck, Malone, Duncan, Dirk, and others.

Draymond could

Yall niqqas stay hating and romanticizing past players into skills they never showcased
 

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The league was only good during that period. Gotcha

Lets me slow it down.

Post Kmart stats in that time frame in his prime during that era

Post Dray in his prime during his era

Would KMart average more in Dray era

Would Dray average more in Kmart era

Let's do it that way
 

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Nope. Most of these PF aren’t as cerebral a player as Dray, whether running an O with his dribbling and passing and his wing to post defense.

Most of the top PF couldn’t do what he did
LaMarcus was a walking double double
20 and 10 guy at Portland

Is that you're saying Draymond is?
 

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What I’m not going to do as an old head with a memory of an elephant is letting other old heads over mythicize past players skills because of their time away from the game.

Kenyon could not defend the perimeter along with Chuck, Malone, Duncan, Dirk, and others.

Draymond could

Kenyon could not bring up the ball and run an offense along Chuck, Malone, Duncan, Dirk, and others.

Draymond could

Yall niqqas stay hating and romanticizing past players into skills they never showcased

Kmart didn't guard Kobe?
 

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Barkley
Malone

and many others.

None of those guys are able to damn near average 9 assists per game because they aren't as cerebral players as Dray. None were wing to post defenders that Draymond is.

Yall stay doing too much hating on dudes.
Barkley use to get the rebound and lead the break. You have to put these guys in draymond role. It’s not hating. You saying they’re not cerebral but these guys ain’t passing to Steph KD Klay. A player like Barkley could easily do draymond role if called upon. Also wing to post defense who was draymond guarding out in the wing? He not guarding Point guards out there unless there’s a switch. It’s a lot of hypotheticals but saying these top PF just can’t do it I don’t agree.
Most of them couldn’t, and guys like Webber couldn’t do it as well—and he tried it to the detriment of the team.

Only KG could do what Draymond does in facilitating an offense.
So if you out Webber on the warriors he couldn’t do draymond roles? Look at draymonds role and what’s he’s asked to do. Ask yourself if I put a man child like Chris Webber in draymonds role could he do it. He ain’t even gotta worry about dropping 20 points a game.
 
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