Kevin love trade?
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That's way too much for Love, and realistically the Cavs wouldn't even want the 3rd pick, they probably want Crowder & Bradley.
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Love would be a good fit on that team. Probably back to putting up Minnesota numbers
Hypothetically, if you're Cleveland who do you take. Murray? Jaylen Brown?
Love would be a good fit on that team. Probably back to putting up Minnesota numbers
Hypothetically, if you're Cleveland who do you take. Murray? Jaylen Brown?
I have no clue, they don't have any minutes for young players but I'd take a wild guess and say Chriss is who the Cavs would take since he's a 4 that may be able to play the 3.
I don't think Love gets traded. He's good in the regular season and with a championship team around him I think he'll be more open minded and will try to fit in some more. I mean dude looks like he likes wrestling and shyt and Bron bought in. So I think he's going to realize he can be himself and be embraced. Bron was also a good sport in the speech he gave, but didn't baby him or anything. So I think Love has a breakout year and turns into a force with the Cavs.
Clippers are looking over at Golden State, not to mention having to get through SAS and OKC, and knowing they realistically have no chance the next couple years. They have to wait it out until Curry declines, which might be not too far away since he's already 28, injury-prone, and needs to be 100% to do what he does well.
But CP3 might not be a star for that long. And Blake relies on his athleticism, so he might decline soon too, especially with the injuries.
Meanwhile, Lebron's window at the top isn't going to last that much longer. Kyrie played great in the playoffs, but he doesn't set up Lebron or anyone else on the team well and he's still not an elite defender. And do the Cavs really think they'll do anything trying to build around Kyrie again 5 years from now and begging free agents to come to Cleveland?
Especially with GS and SAS trying to get even better, Cleveland needs to up themselves now, while the Clippers need to look to the future instead.
CP3-Blake-Redikk for Irving-Love-Shump
CP3 gets to play with passing the ball to Lebron AND Blake AND JR/Redikk as the shooters. fukking dreamland for an elite passer. No one would ever be able to load up on Lebron with all those other weapons out there. And on defense, CP3/Blake would be an upgrade from Irving/Love - there wouldn't be any weak spots anymore. CP3/Lebron/Redikk/JR are all over 30 and would all have about the same time of elite burn left on them, with Blake possibly lasting the same or a bit longer (he's already 27 and, like I said, relies on his athleticism a lot). The team would be perfect together.
CP3 (32)-JR (31)-Lebron (32)-Blake (28)-TT (26), with Redikk (32) as the 6th man. Perfect roster to compete for another 1-2-3 titles right now.
Meanwhile, the Clippers get 7 years younger at point guard and 6 years younger at the wing. Love is the same age as Blake, but Love's game will probably be the same at 34 as it is at 27 - it's not like he relies on athleticism now anyway, he's a tall shooter who gets his rebounds by occupying space well and knowing where to be. Irving would get to be the man again, and Love would do more on offense as the 2nd option than as the 3rd. Meanwhile, the Clippers have DeAndre Jordan to cover up for Love/Irving's defensive shortcomings.
Irving (25)-Shump (26)-Green (30)-Love (28)-Jordan(28). A great core that will still be elite 3-4 years from now, and with that much time to add pieces to make it even better. Love/Irving are signed through 2020, Shump/Jordan through 2019.
Which team wouldn't pull the trigger? Because it's not the right move, or just because they're scared?
Salary-wise the trade works...but if one team doesn't pull the trigger straight-up as it is, would they do so with another couple players/picks thrown in?
So if Golden State gets Durant or someone else (even upgrading from Barnes to Batum), the Cavs are supposed to just sit tight, because they barely beat GS under unusual circumstances this year?
The Cavs are definitely looking to get better, and trading Love, who is a bad fit for them despite all his skill, is one of the best ways to do that.
But CP3 might not be a star for that long. And Blake relies on his athleticism, so he might decline soon too, especially with the injuries.
Meanwhile, Lebron's window at the top isn't going to last that much longer. Kyrie played great in the playoffs, but he doesn't set up Lebron or anyone else on the team well and he's still not an elite defender. And do the Cavs really think they'll do anything trying to build around Kyrie again 5 years from now and begging free agents to come to Cleveland?
Especially with GS and SAS trying to get even better, Cleveland needs to up themselves now, while the Clippers need to look to the future instead.
CP3-Blake-Redikk for Irving-Love-Shump
CP3 gets to play with passing the ball to Lebron AND Blake AND JR/Redikk as the shooters. fukking dreamland for an elite passer. No one would ever be able to load up on Lebron with all those other weapons out there. And on defense, CP3/Blake would be an upgrade from Irving/Love - there wouldn't be any weak spots anymore. CP3/Lebron/Redikk/JR are all over 30 and would all have about the same time of elite burn left on them, with Blake possibly lasting the same or a bit longer (he's already 27 and, like I said, relies on his athleticism a lot). The team would be perfect together.
CP3 (32)-JR (31)-Lebron (32)-Blake (28)-TT (26), with Redikk (32) as the 6th man. Perfect roster to compete for another 1-2-3 titles right now.
Meanwhile, the Clippers get 7 years younger at point guard and 6 years younger at the wing. Love is the same age as Blake, but Love's game will probably be the same at 34 as it is at 27 - it's not like he relies on athleticism now anyway, he's a tall shooter who gets his rebounds by occupying space well and knowing where to be. Irving would get to be the man again, and Love would do more on offense as the 2nd option than as the 3rd. Meanwhile, the Clippers have DeAndre Jordan to cover up for Love/Irving's defensive shortcomings.
Irving (25)-Shump (26)-Green (30)-Love (28)-Jordan(28). A great core that will still be elite 3-4 years from now, and with that much time to add pieces to make it even better. Love/Irving are signed through 2020, Shump/Jordan through 2019.
Which team wouldn't pull the trigger? Because it's not the right move, or just because they're scared?
Salary-wise the trade works...but if one team doesn't pull the trigger straight-up as it is, would they do so with another couple players/picks thrown in?
So if Golden State gets Durant or someone else (even upgrading from Barnes to Batum), the Cavs are supposed to just sit tight, because they barely beat GS under unusual circumstances this year?
The Cavs are definitely looking to get better, and trading Love, who is a bad fit for them despite all his skill, is one of the best ways to do that.
if GS really pulls that off, there's nothing the Cavs can get in return to offset that. It would be over 
Sullinger 18/10 next yr
All they need is Durant looking over at Lebron on the other side of the court and...
In reality, I dunno. First off, it would kill Golden State's depth - they'd probably have to get rid of Barnes, Iggy or Livingston, and Bogut to make it happen. Suddenly you're talking about Ezeli as the only real center and you're out of wings to throw at Lebron, so you're forced to expend Durant defending him all game.
Now, doing that to get Curry-Thompson-Durant-Green in your starting lineup would still be sick.
But wouldn't that lineup still have a difficult time defending CP3-JR/Redikk-Lebron-Blake?
And couldn't that Cavs lineup match up well enough to make that series have an actual questionable outcome?
I think that my made-up new Cavs lineup would have better odds against the new Warriors lineup than this year's Cavs lineup did...and we saw what can happen.
Why would the Cavs want to get older at PG and on the wing though?
Kyrie played his ass off on the biggest stage at 24, no way do they even consider moving him.
Yall play too much nba 2k.
Cavs would never trade Kyrie, and they are unlikely to trade love also. Yeah, love struggles against golden state especially on d because you constantly have to switch against the quicker guards. But he did fine against other teams all season and playoffs aside from the finals.
They just won the title, they're contenders for the foreseeable future. Love is in his prime, lebron is lebron, Kyrie is 24, Thompson is 25.
Why risk any type of chemistry shakeups at this point? This group is battle tested and confident.
Plus, I think management will make love put on some weight so he can become a reliable post up again
Cavs would never trade Kyrie, and they are unlikely to trade love also. Yeah, love struggles against golden state especially on d because you constantly have to switch against the quicker guards. But he did fine against other teams all season and playoffs aside from the finals.
They just won the title, they're contenders for the foreseeable future. Love is in his prime, lebron is lebron, Kyrie is 24, Thompson is 25.
Why risk any type of chemistry shakeups at this point? This group is battle tested and confident.
Plus, I think management will make love put on some weight so he can become a reliable post up again
SuburbanPimp
Giving game to lames since the 90s
You had my attention
But you lost me at Jared Sullinger
Love had a bad couple of games but nah, wait til the season starts and let him start playing good again and get his value back up....
We the Champs baby
We aren't in a rush
But you lost me at Jared Sullinger
Love had a bad couple of games but nah, wait til the season starts and let him start playing good again and get his value back up....
We the Champs baby
We aren't in a rush
Why would the Cavs want to get older at PG and on the wing though?
Man what the hell is that dude talking about
@Malta @Gil Scott-Heroin If you were David Griffin would you stick with Love after winning the Championship & his Game 7 performance or trade him because the one team in the League he doesn't match up well with will most likely be in the Finals next year?
They aren't trading him unless it's a deal that blows them away, it sends the wrong message to players around the league too.
I think they're going to look on the FA market for players that can play the 3-4, because they really are the only team he's really going to get exposed against.