Khalid Muhammad upset with Minister Farrakhan

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i know this but the western brothers/sisters are all over the place..many faiths, cults, new beliefs, reprised religions..all good but know your shot and research!!
and online is the place where you will find all these anti this and anti that..without any authentic understanding.

so i let them jog on and jog off..then say Assalamu!
and to all my black muslim anti arab anti sunni islam..then throw your AYRAB names and AYRAB traditions and AYRAB reliogon in the trash!!!!

They can't! you know why? because the Honourable Elijah Muhammad didn't want that!
 

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nikka arab slave traders brought that shyt to wesr africa. You act like west Africans willfully converted
Why do you lie?

Islam came to West Africa through the bambara and serekhule groups that traded with the arabs that settled im the Tunisian city of khairawan 200 years after the death of the messenger. Those serekhule groups (particularly ) the diakhanke along with the hausa were the ones responsible for converting the rest of their west African brethren to islam.

West Africa is seperated from the Arab world by a massive desert
Thats the reason why even though we've been devout muslims for over 1000 years, we were never under the politival influence of any arabs - let alone to be their slaves
 

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Why do you lie?

Islam came to West Africa through the bambara and serekhule groups that traded with the arabs that settled im the Tunisian city of khairawan 200 years after the death of the messenger. Those serekhule groups (particularly ) the diakhanke along with the hausa were the ones responsible for converting the rest of their west African brethren to islam.

West Africa is seperated from the Arab world by a massive desert
Thats the reason why even though we've been devout muslims for over 1000 years, we were never under the politival influence of any arabs - let alone to be their slaves
Mashallah for dropping knowledge on this fraud..most likely a brainwashed child like in that situation..we will forgive him.
 

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“Gun and a Bible” :jbhmm:

Is Farrakhan even a Muslim? A couple times I’ve heard him speak and sound just like a baptist preacher. Literally talking about Jesus and shyt
Most Christians do not know that Muslims believe in Jesus. In fact, there are between 1.6 and 1.8 billion Muslims and not one who calls himself a Muslim will deny Jesus. Not one! The Qur'an, which is the book of scripture of the Muslims, refers to Jesus as Esau Ibn Maryam al-Massi, meaning, “Jesus, son of Mary, the Messiah.”




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Ppl have difficulty seperating arabs from islam

As far as islam the stance on slavery is this


Goodness does not consist in turning your face towards East or West. The truly good are those who believe in God and the Last Day, in the angels, the Scripture, and the prophets; who give away some of their wealth, however much they cherish it, to their relatives, to orphans, the needy, travellers and beggars, and to liberate those in slavery; those who keep up the prayer and pay the prescribed alms; who keep pledges whenever they make them; who are steadfast in misfortune, adversity, and times of danger. These are the ones who are true, and it is they who are aware of God.

-Sura Al-Baqarah, Ayah 177


God does not take you [to task] for what is thoughtless in your oaths, only for your binding oaths: the atonement for breaking an oath is to feed ten poor people with food equivalent to what you would normally give your own families, or to clothe them, or to set free a slave- if a person cannot find the means, he should fast for three days. This is the atonement for breaking your oaths- keep your oaths. In this way God makes clear His revelations to you, so that you may be thankful.

-Sura Al-Ma'idah, Ayah 89


Alms are meant only for the poor, the needy, those who administer them, those whose hearts need winning over, to free slaves and help those in debt, for God’s cause, and for travellers in need. This is ordained by God; God is all knowing and wise.

-Sura At-Tawbah, Ayah 60


What will explain to you what the steep path is?
It is to free a slave
-Sura Al-Balad, Ayah 12 13
Not saying this to troll, but the issue is not religion per se, but how people use it to justify actions. Principal often trumps principles, that's just human nature.

Didn't Arab Muslim merchants justify slavery by waging jihad and enslaving infidels?
Meaning, didn't they use other passages from the Koran to justiy their actions.

So called Christians got the greenlight from their leader, the pope, to justify the chattel enslavement of human beings. Not sure if Caliphs or Imams were the ones who gave those Arabs the okay to enslave non Muslims, or whether their own interpretations of Koranic passages allowed them to justify it.

What is your take on that?
 
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Not saying this to troll, but the issue is not religion per se, but how people use it to justify actions. Principal often trumps principles, that's just human nature.

Didn't Arab Muslims merchants justify slavery by waging jihad and enslaving infidels?
Meaning, didn't they use other passages from the Koran to justiy their actions.

So called Christians got the greenlight from their leader, the pope, to justify the chattel enslavement of human beings. Not sure if Caliphs or Imams were the ones who gave those Arabs the okay to enslave non Muslims, or whether their own interpretations of Koranic passages allowed them to justify it.

What is your take on that?
My take is that youre correct.

As you stated, the Quran has given human beings principles and parameters by which to live by which are called the hudud al Allah (the boundaries of Allah). To enslave a free person for the purpose of sheer profit is outside of those bounds, to sell that person is outside of those bonds, to mutilate castrate and strip that person of their culture and humanity is ou5side of thise bounds.

And whoever transgresses the boundaries of Allah egregiously and with oppression, be he "Muslim" or kaffir, white or Arab, will meet Allah with Allah angry at him. They can fool themselves and hide behind institutions of power and commerce in this life, but who can hide from the complete judgment of Allah in the next world.

Then you are those killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. If they come to you as captives, you ransom them although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part?

Surat Al-Baqarah 2:85

Moses said: Is this a favor of which you remind me, that you have enslaved the Children of Israel?

Surat Ash-Shu’ara 26:22

The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

وَرَجُلٌ بَاعَ حُرًّا فَأَكَلَ ثَمَنَهُ

Allah will oppose a man who sells a free person and consumes the price.
 

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My take is that youre correct.

As you stated, the Quran has given human beings principles and parameters by which to live by which are called the hudud al Allah (the boundaries of Allah). To enslave a free person for the purpose of sheer profit is outside of those bounds, to sell that person is outside of those bonds, to mutilate castrate and strip that person of their culture and humanity is ou5side of thise bounds.

And whoever transgresses the boundaries of Allah egregiously and with oppression, be he "Muslim" or kaffir, white or Arab, will meet Allah with Allah angry at him. They can fool themselves and hide behind institutions of power and commerce in this life, but who can hide from the complete judgment of Allah in the next world.

Then you are those killing one another and evicting a party of your people from their homes, cooperating against them in sin and aggression. If they come to you as captives, you ransom them although their eviction was forbidden to you. So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part?

Surat Al-Baqarah 2:85

Moses said: Is this a favor of which you remind me, that you have enslaved the Children of Israel?

Surat Ash-Shu’ara 26:22

The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

وَرَجُلٌ بَاعَ حُرًّا فَأَكَلَ ثَمَنَهُ

Allah will oppose a man who sells a free person and consumes the price.
Thanks for the response.
Personal beliefs are a touchy subject, so I respect the objective response.
 
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