Killer Mike Asks Michael Jordan To Put Money In Black Owned Banks

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Let the man enjoy life while he can, put his money to spin to make as much as possible and when he's about to die.. That's when he can start investing in random businesses, become a philanthropist and on. That's how everyone else does it, of course except the exceptional people like Bill Gates that quit their jobs to work with charity full time. Bill Gates is also incredibly smart, has been working with charities and those type of questions for decades and could've been worth like 200 billion bucks or something if he didn't want to do charity at a young age.

More important are the normal people, what's the need to invest in black businesses if they can't return bread? Instead of criticizing Jordan, we should go criticized for not building businesses that are dope, not going to school to get enough money to support businesses, to be educated enough to have more nice black neighborhoods built by black people with black businesses. Jordan or Dr. Dre can't help that, that shyt is on the people. We are not retarded, athletes did not help the Asians become what they are.
 

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MJ owns the HORNETS yes, but at the end of the day its a franchise. Donald Sterling got kicked out and so could MJ or anyone else. The All Star game just got taken away, MJ couldn't do shyt about it. I love the fact MJ owns the Hornets and has a lot of black execs and all, but him owning the Hornets isn't exactly an example of MJ owning a black owned business. JB is a subsidiary of Nike and the Hornets are just 1/30 of the NBA's voting power. Nothing wrong with either, MJ has made a lot of power moves

Technically Sterling did not get kicked out. He was declared mentally incompetant, his wife took over ownership of the team and then sold it to Steve Balmer. If it wasn't for him being declared incompetant he would most likely still be an owner and this would still be in court since he said he was going to fight it.

The rules of ownership though are pretty open and formalized though, so an owner breaking contract and being removed doens't make anyone less a owner.

All-Star game was taken away because of the commissioner acting in the interest of other owners lobbying. Nothing to do with MJ or in attacking MJ, also its a NBA event not a Hornets event.
So at the end of the day MJ owning the Hornets makes it by definition a black owned business.
Jordan Brand is a subsidiary of Nike, Hornets are a partner in teh NBA, there is a difference.
 

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What goal post was moved?
You said MJ was doing nothing?
I proved you wrong
You said MJ was taking half measure, he should have black owned businesses?
I showed you he does both, works inside a major company and helps blacks and he has his own black owned business the Bobcats.
You then claimed you were never talking about Jordan
I showed that you mentioned him by name that he should have his own businesses

Now you are claiming I moved the goalpost, when I never asked you to reach anything or to prove anything. I just asked you to answer a few questions for me, which you still have no answered.

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I quoted and underline a part of your post where you said that a black person getting a high position in a white company is helpful.

I showed you how its temporary and a half measure.

That is where our focus was and it has never changed. All of that other shyt is you trying to move the goal post.

Are we gonna talk about the original thing that started this whole back and forth or are you gonna keep on avoiding it? :sas2:
 

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I quoted and underline a part of your post where you said that a black person getting a high position in a white company is helpful.

I showed you how its temporary and a half measure.

That is where our focus was and it has never changed. All of that other shyt is you trying to move the goal post.

Are we gonna talk about the original thing that started this whole back and forth or are you gonna keep on avoiding it? :sas2:

Just did a search in this thread and I have not once even typed the word "helpful".
On top of that you have not made a single post where you quoted me and underlined anything I said at all.

That said I did say he was helping people by providing a pipeline for executive placement and experience in the corporate world, where if he were not there that opportunity would not be present. I asked you to tell me how is that negative. You've yet to reply.

You keep saying temporary and half measure, I asked you directly how is it a half-measure, you said it wasn't black owned. I said Jordan owns the Bobcats, you said it doesn't matter. I asked you how is the opportunity anymore temporary than any other position in the business world, you refused to answer.

I asked you questions, you refused to answer, I then used your own terms of full/half measure and you started copping pleas about how you never were talking about Jordan, even though you referenced Jordan by name.

So whenever you are ready to actually contribute a logical argument to this thread feel free to start.
 

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Just did a search in this thread and I have not once even typed the word "helpful".
On top of that you have not made a single post where you quoted me and underlined anything I said at all.

That said I did say he was helping people by providing a pipeline for executive placement and experience in the corporate world, where if he were not there that opportunity would not be present. I asked you to tell me how is that negative. You've yet to reply.

You keep saying temporary and half measure, I asked you directly how is it a half-measure, you said it wasn't black owned. I said Jordan owns the Bobcats, you said it doesn't matter. I asked you how is the opportunity anymore temporary than any other position in the business world, you refused to answer.

I asked you questions, you refused to answer, I then used your own terms of full/half measure and you started copping pleas about how you never were talking about Jordan, even though you referenced Jordan by name.

So whenever you are ready to actually contribute a logical argument to this thread feel free to start.
This is the first post that I made toward you:
I underlined a specific part of your post in the quote and laughed at it.

That is the original and only focus that I addressed you about yet you brought up a whole bunch of other irrelevant crap.

What is relevant is doing that move alone is a half measure. Read my post carefully.
 

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This is the first post that I made toward you:

I underlined a specific part of your post in the quote and laughed at it.

That is the original and only focus that I addressed you about yet you brought up a whole bunch of other irrelevant crap.

What is relevant is doing that move alone is a half measure. Read my post carefully.

You are right, my bad you did underline.
THen when I quoted you a link to ESPN article showing you that he was in fact doing so you said

Half measure

Would be better off if Jordan made a separate black business.

then later claimed you weren't attacking Jordan.

You tried to make a argument, fukked it up, now you want to act like you never said anything and the convo string never happened. Sad.

What is relevant is that Jordan is doing more than just that, but even if he did, you can't logically explain how its negative for black americans to have a black american providing economic opportunities that didn't exist before.
 

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You are right, my bad you did underline.
THen when I quoted you a link to ESPN article showing you that he was in fact doing so you said

then later claimed you weren't attacking Jordan.

You tried to make a argument, fukked it up, now you want to act like you never said anything and the convo string never happened. Sad.

What is relevant is that Jordan is doing more than just that, but even if he did, you can't logically explain how its negative for black americans to have a black american providing economic opportunities that didn't exist before.
What you posted showed that he did more than just that half measure.

It did not make my original point that "doing that move that I underlined alone is a half measure" false.
 
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I think both sides of the discussion have legit points. Question for both sides

1) Those who feel Jordan's advancement of blackfolks in his company helps the plight of the black community too, how do you know whether those black folks getting advancements are not koons and self-serving black folks who finna not continue trying to promote more black execs?

2)Those who feel Jordan should invest in black businesses and banks, what accountability will these black companies be held to so that the black community will benefit from their investments? I made a thread about this question and some couldn't answer the question, instead they were agent-like with snitching to the mods and deflection attempts OR one clown gave such a generic response that it was clear he was just regurgitating shyt he heard others have said, without reasoning its practicality

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/afte...ks-and-merchants-held-accountable-for.450330/
 

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I love the fact MJ owns the Hornets and has a lot of black execs and all, but him owning the Hornets isn't exactly an example of MJ owning a black owned business.

Darwin Award.
 

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What you posted showed that he did more than just that half measure.

It did not make my original point that "doing that move that I underlined alone is a half measure" false.
What I posted, you read and said was a half measure. You then said JOrdan needs to have black owned business. Now you've said in this thread you know he is the primary owner of the Hornets. What is there to talk about, you know he is the owner of the HOrnets and that is a black owned business and you know what he was doing for blacks in Jordan subsidiary.

You literally wasted this whole thread shytting on Jordan, then realizing you fukked up and trying to claim you weren't, now trying to claim you losing track equates with me moving goalposts, and now back to saying you never were attacking Jordan, and now claiming you were taken out of context when you literally wrote the opposite of what you are trying to imply now.
 

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Darwin Award.

nikka my point was that even though he owns the Hornets it doesn't mean he has real power in the NBA. He has 1/30th voting power. He got his All Star Game taken away. The fact he owns the Hornets is dope but the Hornets are a franchise, its not some black empire that MJ started up from the ground. It's a franchise of the NBA, and the NBA is mostly white owned. Jordan Brand is what MJ helped build from scratch and it's a subsidiary. Which is all good but i think the argument had started because nikkas say MJ should invest in black owned businesses and banks and I agree. He probably already does:yeshrug:
 
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