Killer Mike defends gun ownership during NRA interview

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Very disingenuous on his part when he literally said he would put his kids out of his home had they joined that protest. The reality is he was smelling himself and thought he could take a position that wasn't neutral and the NRA played him as a result. :mjlol: These modern day activists really need to touch up on being media savvy.

In the interview he did with Roland Martin I posted on page 10 he said he told his son if he protested he can walk out his house because his son was failing math...:mjlol:

So he lying and trowing his son under the bus all for the NRA and his "image" or whatever the fukk.

Killer Mike just full of shyt yall. :mjlol:
 

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@Crude Abolitionist are you okay with New Jersey-style gun laws (effectively a repeal of the 2nd Amendment for all intents and purposes. The average person will not qualify and even if they do, authorities are not required to issue permits) at the federal level?

Even if you say that most Afrikans who are currently gun owners have them illegally (which I'm not sure is correct, and if it is, it speaks to larger issues related to economic oppression that we face), why should we want to generalize among the entire community (people not engaged in illicit activity) the prospect of facing more police violence and imprisonment if they want to obtain firearms that should be already constitutionally guaranteed?

For those who want to say the 2nd Amendment isn't for us... this country isn't for us. It was established by, and designed for the benefit of, slaveholding, genocidal, rich white men. The same document the 2nd Amendment is in has us counting as 3/5 of a person. Do y'all keep the same energy with the "it's not for us" logic for other rights from that same document too?

If legality doesn't matter since we're not treated equally under the law anyway, we should not be concerned with restrictions on free speech, privacy concerns, etc. either. Terrible position to take, IMO.

I have a clean record and had no issues purchasing what I have legally. How do you explain that if, as some in here have said, the laws are irrelevant or harmful to Afrikans? I would not be able to do it somewhere with restricted gun rights. If I wanted to, I would have to risk imprisonment and police violence.
 

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I guess breh was just paranoid tho :yeshrug:
 

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@Crude Abolitionist are you okay with New Jersey-style gun laws (effectively a repeal of the 2nd Amendment for all intents and purposes. The average person will not qualify and even if they do, authorities are not required to issue permits) at the federal level?

Even if you say that most Afrikans who are currently gun owners have them illegally (which I'm not sure is correct, and if it is, it speaks to larger issues related to economic oppression that we face), why should we want to generalize among the entire community (people not engaged in illicit activity) the prospect of facing more police violence and imprisonment if they want to obtain firearms that should be already constitutionally guaranteed?

For those who want to say the 2nd Amendment isn't for us... this country isn't for us. It was established by, and designed for the benefit of, slaveholding, genocidal, rich white men. The same document the 2nd Amendment is in has us counting as 3/5 of a person. Do y'all keep the same energy with the "it's not for us" logic for other rights from that same document too?

If legality doesn't matter since we're not treated equally under the law anyway, we should not be concerned with restrictions on free speech, privacy concerns, etc. either. Terrible position to take, IMO.

I have a clean record and had no issues purchasing what I have legally. How do you explain that if, as some in here have said, the laws are irrelevant or harmful to Afrikans? I would not be able to do it somewhere with restricted gun rights. If I wanted to, I would have to risk imprisonment and police violence.

Black people in Amerikkka should be able to buy guns full stop. We are the ones that are being terrorized by the Amerikkkan government not cacs.

I am not ok with the NJ style gun laws at all. They want yall to not be able to carry legally so IF they catch you with one they can toss you into slavery (prison) real quick.

They also want us to be afraid of guns so we ass out if shyt goes down.

Every Black person in Amerikkka needs at least 3 guns.
 

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Black people in Amerikkka should be able to buy guns full stop. We are the ones that are being terrorized by the Amerikkkan government not cacs.

I am not ok with the NJ style gun laws at all. They want yall to not be able to carry legally so IF they catch you with one they can toss you into slavery (prison) real quick.

They also want us to be afraid of guns so we ass out if shyt goes down.

Every Black person in Amerikkka needs at least 3 guns.

If the Democratic Party successfully institutes gun control, what is your answer? What can be done at that point once the rights are eroded?
 

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If the Democratic Party successfully institutes gun control, what is your answer? What can be done at that point once the rights are eroded?

Have your passport.

Have guns on you regardless.

Move to the south or west where you can purchase firearms.

I don't know how people up north deal with them gun laws...

My experience purchasing firearms here in Texas been a breeze.
 

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So...

Have your passport.

1) flee cac oppression*

*I'm not opposed to repatriation, I'm just saying that's what this means. And that's only an individual solution, not a group one -- unfortunately there is no Black Star Liner to bring us all back.

Have guns on you regardless.

2) ride dirty (even tho those rights should be constitutionally protected and the laws are unnecessarily criminalizing people), good chance you can get locked up for a long while

Move to the south or west where you can purchase firearms.

3) restrictive laws at the federal level mean you can't move to the south or west to avail yourself of your rights.

those are the options/outcomes based on what you outlined :manny:

I'm just saying we're stuck between a rock and a hard place as Afrikans.

The NRA and Republicans suck and so do the Democrats.

So my question is, which direction allows us more space, to chart our own path, in our own interests? And I don't see gun control as implemented by the Democratic Party being that direction. I see both of the camps (which represent the ruling class) described above as being mutually reinforcing, creating outcomes unfavorable to us. But I think the question of whether these rights will be upheld or not is a critical one. And the gun control proposed by the Democratic Party will enable whatever folks feel the Republican Party represents and stands for, to take its full form down the line.

It would be one thing if Afrikans who are members of the Democratic Party were a vocal pro-gun rights constituency. Then we'd have perhaps another option, that option being to push the Democrats in a better direction on the issue. But that is not the case.

So if it's fukk the NRA, what is a pro-gun rights Afrikan to do, knowing that the Democratic Party will implement gun control? That's not a rhetorical question, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts and the thoughts of others. I'm all for pro-gun rights orgs in our community that advocate for our 2A interests and I have been for years, even when nikkas thought we lived in a post-racial America and looked at me like I was fukking crazy. But let's keep it a buck. As it stands today NAAGA can't win the national debate alone, it isn't even big enough to represent all gun owners in our own community. Is that (relying on NAAGA and a handful of other small orgs) a viable option right now to keep gun rights alive? Or should we be content with gun rights being set back?
 
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With your second point the military is only 1.5 million people. there are 300 million guns in the U.S. If the government was to turn tyrannical many people would desert. As I've mentioned before in this thread the US military hasn't won a single war since ww2

Korea = draw
Veitnam= withdrawal
Iraq and Afghanistan = constant insurgency and the longest wars in our history.

It's near impossible to defeat an armed population using guerrilla tactics. We didnt have a decisive victory in any of those wars with all the superior drones tanks jets ships bombs and technology.

well like i mentioned earlier i don't think we can compare today's us population and so called revolutionaries to any of the kids that fought past wars and live in a current war state. those kids were/are hungry, literally. people these days wouldn't even know what to do if they lost internet and they can even give up mcdonalds for their own health.
 
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