Kingdom Come Instrumental Appreciation Thread

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I remember when he put it up on his myspace. He just made it for shyts and giggles, but a couple of known rappers hopped in his comments like :feedme:

Obviously Hov came through like :mjgrin:

EDIT: There's a making of account

Jay-Z, MC:
“Ahmir from the Roots was like you got to get that Just track, you gotta get that ****, he flipped ‘Super Freak.’ Like, the genius in that record again is not me, really it’s the fact that he took one of the most commercial beats in hip-hop history and flipped it on some Premier ****. Like he made it like a real hip-hop record. It’s really weird how he did that ****.”

Just Blaze, producer:
“There’s tons of fake Myspace pages for people out there. So [to show mine was legit] I was just gonna go talk and be like, “This is Just Blaze, blah, blah blah” and be out. And, while I was thinking about what I was gonna say, I said, maybe I should have a beat in the background. So in the office in the front of Baseline, I had a stack of records. I had the ‘Super Freak’ twelve-inch that I had bought a couple of months ago in Chicago. Don’t ask. It was like $5. It was a 20-minute version which I never heard. So I’m flipping through and I was like ‘I should rip something that people wouldn’t expect.’ Then I came across the twelve inch and started playing it. A lot of times, once I hear a sample, I already have the beat done in my head before I touch the MP. This time I had no idea what I was gonna do. So I literally took every note on the record and put it on a separate pad. And broke it down to the minimum amount of beats you could. I started playing around with it and it began to fall together. So I was like, ‘I should rock it like this with no drums or nothing.’ Which I started to do and then I added drums.

I think Peter Gunz might have been here. Peter actually has the video of me doing the drums, I think Corey was around and me and Pete are cool. He was recording something for a Corey Gunz DVD and he just started calling everybody to come into the room like, ‘Yo, you gotta hear this beat.’ I never really thought it was that crazy when I first made it. I thought the creativity behind it was cool, more so than the beat itself. I never thought anything of it; it was just for Myspace. I do it, put it up and then later that day, I saw it had 400 hits. That night, 3700 hits. I hadn’t even had the page up that long. Then I got a message from Myspace administration like “We don’t know what you just did with your page, but your traffic has just increased by like 10 million percent.” Then I get an email from ?uest and he’s like, ‘I don’t believe you did it, the beat on your page!’ I’m like, ‘Ohhhh.’ A bunch of respect and love came from him and he wanted to know if Jay was on it. I was like, ‘Nah.’ I literally made that beat in 30 seconds. I thought nothing of it. He said “Jay has to hear that beat, now. If there’s a record for Jay and Nas to be on, it has to be that record. I haven’t been this passionate about something since I was trying to get off of Geffen.” I’m like, “Wow.” He emails Jay. Jay hits me about it and then I never hear anything about it again. This is like Jan/Feb and a few months go by.

“Ahmir was just constantly like, ‘I need it, I need it.’ I’m like, ‘Aight.’ Gave Jay the beat and didn’t hear anything from him. Then Jay almost doesn’t do it because Busta had done Rick James’ ‘In the Ghetto.’ I’m like, ‘So, it’s a different record.’ Obviously it’s his comeback so he doesn’t want to copycat. But it’s Jay-Z. The beat has already been all over the place, everyone knows it’s from my Myspace page so I’m like, “Just do it.” He does it and it became the perfect statement for the comeback.”

Young Guru, engineer:
“The best thing that I can tell you that there’s a song called ‘Kingdom Come’ on the album, which is the title of the album. The way that record came about was from a good friend of mine from college, Lance Williams, he’s one of those dudes that can memorize, he knows how many mics every album ever got. We’re both comic book guys and we’re talking about Kingdom Come which is a comic book that came out about Superman. He was just like, ‘Isn’t it weird where hip-hop is at right now, it’s like Kingdom Come and Jay needs to be like Superman.’ I was like, ‘You’re right.’ I hadn’t read Kingdom Come in so long so I went
out and bought it and read it. And I’m like ‘Oh ****! It’s parallel, it’s crazy.’ So I’m telling Jay the idea, I gave him the book and he got it. That’s why I love that song because one of the things that Superman doesn’t realize in the comic book is, not only how ill he is as a superhero but his influence on inspiring the rest of his peers that are superheroes. So when Superman jets and says, ‘Y’all ****’ on me, y’all want the ****** that’s gon’ kill the people and I don’t kill my enemies, I catch ‘em and, cool y’all deal with ‘em. I’m good.” Wonder Woman comes and she’s like “It ain’t just you doing what you do but Green Lantern ain’t doing his thing no more, The Flash ain’t doing his thing, you’re the leader, you inspire them to keep going and doing what they do.” That’s where the parallel comes in. And Jay can take an idea and incorporate it into a song better than anybody that I know and when he finally vocalized it, I felt it was exactly what I was thinking about.

“He’s saying, ‘I don’t know what life would be in H-I-P-H-O-P without the boy H-O-V not only N-Y-C, I’m hip-hop’s savior, so after this flow you might owe me a favor.’ It’s bringing New York back but it’s also bringing that hardcore hip-hop **** back on top of a beat where Just takes a sample that was used for probably the most pop rap record ever. All the parallels are in there. It’s just a really good record and the people are gonna get it on one level and then a couple weeks later they’ll get it on another level and then they’ll really listen and get every single thing he’s saying in there. I always say he raps on three different levels and you’re gonna get it, eventually.”
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I enjoyed this song and album :yeshrug:People rag on it too much but it served it's purpose of him coming back in the game
 
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1. "The Prelude" 5/5
2. "Oh My God" 5/5
3. "Kingdom Come 5/5
4. "Show Me What You Got" 5/5
5. "Lost One" 5/5
6. "Do U Wanna Ride" 5/5
7. "30 Something" 3/5
8. "I Made It" 1/5
9. "Anything" 1/5
10. "Hollywood" 1/5
11. "Trouble" 1/5
12. "Dig a Hole" 1/5
13. "Minority Report" 1/5
14. "Beach Chair" 5/5

7 Great Tracks.....7 Meh Tracks.....
 
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ISO said:
Kingdom Come the whole album is underrated production wise IMO :whew:
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Before The Answer was a 3
I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick :takedat:
Sure he's rich now, cause he saw the shyt, all this shyt :win:
That's why they call him Hov', cause he came before all this shyt :blessed:
Bought a 6, quarter seven:ohlawd:, skipped on them quarter eights :scusthov:
Bought a 9, for non-stop clockwork all the time :demonic:- The Prelude (Intro)

The intro was so cold brehs :wow:
 
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Production was dope. The problems were

People here produced by dre(the first rumors most people assumed he was doing most of the album) everyone before the album came out was like :ohhh:shyts about to be a chronic 2001 New York style

Dres production was fire but not what people wanted. People ( myself included ) were like :patrice: it sounds dope but it doesn't blow me away

Jay has shining moments (prelude, lost ones )and always drops gems here and there but it's filled with corny lyrics. First of all, 30 was never the new 20 and your 40. Wasted a classic dre beat. To many more corny lines to name but you get the picture.

Young guru fukked up the mixing hard on this project. I don't know if he just tried to get everything to sound and clean like the mixes dre sent, but my god half that album makes my ears bleed. look at the wave lengths and everything is just boosted to the max

Seems like Pharrell hated jay z at this point in time because he gave them trash and those songs don't fit at all
 
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yeah Kingdom Come was underrated...there was too much hype that it was his return after the Black Album, and once people found Dre had like 5 tracks here? sheesh
 
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I like the production but they weren't the type of beats Jay should have been rapping over, he couldn't flow properly.
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its not the terrible album that ppl make it out to be

the highs on KC>>>>>the highs on AG. imo :ehh:
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Insane.
And the only highs on KC are The Prelude and Minority Report.
Not including Lost Ones because that's all production.
 
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