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Being in a healthy relationship is about exchanging domestic services?

We'll you've schooled. Lol
alot of men just want a mother that they can also have sex with

that's why they often put their mom first, before their wife and their kids.

If she wants to cook fine, If both of yall work its nothing to eat out and have somebody else do the cooking. same thing. demanding she stay home and cook is just momma boy babble.
 

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alot of men just want a mother that they can also have sex with

that's why they often put their mom first, before their wife and their kids.

If she wants to cook fine, If both of yall work its nothing to eat out and have somebody else do the cooking. same thing. demanding she stay home and cook is just momma boy babble.
I’m not alot of men.
 

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I love it!
I'm sure
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The phrase "the way to a man's heart is through his stomach" is an idiom that suggests that a good way to a person's affection is by providing them with enjoyable food. While often attributed to cultural beliefs and outdated gender roles, the sentiment behind it, that shared meals and culinary experiences can be a powerful part of building relationships, still resonates with many people today.

It’s less about being a “good” woman and more about the effort being a reflection of how much you care about someone. I cook for my wife all the time and she does the same for me. Feeding someone is essentially keeping them alive. Why is it a bad thing in your opinion?
In your quote it literally states what the issue is. Not sure why you chose it.

I didn't say cooking is an issue. I said that I hate that women think that it makes them "good" women ie your are not worthy of love unless you are laboring.

I think gender roles are incredibly hard to unlearn

At the same time, it's natural to want to do this (at least occasionally) for a man you really like and doesn't neccesarily have to be a gender performance thing
It doesn't have to be but it is.

Ya'll would trash a man to hell and back if he bragged about how much he loves to cook for women if it wasn't a strategy to get what he wants or, liking this thread, using it to tell women "we do it too."
How is that domestic labor? She’s showing her dude affection!
Maybe your should look up what domestic labor entails. You're literally restating my argument in the form of an question.

So she can’t do something nice for him? Maybe she LIKES to cook? Some women love to make a meal and see the appreciation on their man’s face.
She can do whatever she wants.

Everyone has their own unique love language :manny: . I don't see the issue in expressing it in this manner
Of course you don't.
Cooking dinner :hula: hands and knee’s barefoot scrubbing toilets

Describing dinner as “labor” says more about you than her lol
It was joke.

But if you don't think cooking is labor then why do chefs and cooks get paid? It's labor. You just expect it to be free if you are with a woman...which is the point. But you guys are intentionally missing it.

It's all good though. Just making an observation.
 

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alot of men just want a mother that they can also have sex with

that's why they often put their mom first, before their wife and their kids.

If she wants to cook fine, If both of yall work its nothing to eat out and have somebody else do the cooking. same thing. demanding she stay home and cook is just momma boy babble.
You get it.

My statement was more about women's feelings about themselves than a criticism of men or relationships though.

There are many ways to exist as a good partner outside of domestic labor. I just wish more women understood that.
 

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You get it.

My statement was more about women's feelings about themselves than a criticism of men or relationships though.

There are many ways to exist as a good partner outside of domestic labor. I just wish more women understood that.
I also think men who don't have a lot of early relationships, (like back in highschool early)
They develop unreasonable expectations, and don't really know how to just be happy with a person simply because you like them and they like you.

Nobody was expecting their highschool sweetheart to cook for them and yet the puppy love was still strong back then.

Its these dudes that didn't get any play until their late 20s early 30s, talking about domestic duties because they need somebody to the place of the mothers role that they no longer have in their life. at the very least the timing of those changes in expectation is very coincidental
 

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In your quote it literally states what the issue is. Not sure why you chose it.

I didn't say cooking is an issue. I said that I hate that women think that it makes them "good" women ie your are not worthy of love unless you are laboring.

The quote doesn’t say anything about being a good woman and says despite it being an outdated saying (due to gender roles) the sentiment still rings true that people are able to build relationships through sharing a meal with another person.

Men are expected to protect and provide. Both are a labor of love. When did it become a bad thing to do something for someone you care about?

:what:
 

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I also think men who don't have a lot of early relationships, (like back in highschool early)
They develop unreasonable expectations, and don't really know how to just be happy with a person simply because you like them and they like you.

Nobody was expecting their highschool sweetheart to cook for them and yet the puppy love was still strong back then.

Its these dudes that didn't get any play until their late 20s early 30s, talking about domestic duties because they need somebody to the place of the mothers role that they no longer have in their life. at the very least the timing of those changes in expectation is very coincidental
Good point.

I also think it's a power dynamics things. If you (general) are literally acting like my (general) servant then I am "above" you. I have control over you.

Men only demand domestic labor from their female partners but don't demand it from everyone else in their lives. If it's really about "relationship building" as others have stated in this thread, then why isn't it a normal exchange between everyone that they have a personal relationship?

The best I hear is an occasional BBQ. But you will never hear men say they are going to cook for their homeboys to help build their relationship.

:mjlol:
 

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The quote doesn’t say anything about being a good woman and says despite it being an outdated saying (due to gender roles) the sentiment still rings true that people are able to build relationships through sharing a meal with another person.

Men are expected to protect and provide. Both are a labor of love. When did it become a bad thing to do something for someone you care about?

:what:
The quote talks about it as an outdated gender role does it not? That was the point.

I already addressed the last question and already clarified. If you need greater understanding read the posts I already made.
 

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But if you don't think cooking is labor then why do chefs and cooks get paid

The same reason why nba players get paid for playing basketball while the rest of us play at the local gym

One is a skilled position where you have to cook for dozens of people per hour, while cooking some spaghetti and catfish once or twice a week is just simply dinner
 

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Looking at the comments on her video, Megan really has a highly parasocial fanbase that really sees her happiness and success, as an extension of their own. It's kinda sad

I think most fandom culture is toxic, but this seems part and parcel for her brand specifically
 

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The same reason why nba players get paid for playing basketball while the rest of us play at the local gym

One is a skilled position where you have to cook for dozens of people per hour, while cooking some spaghetti and catfish once or twice a week is just simply dinner
Not equivalent but okay.

So private chefs don't get paid for cooking for one person? Even more so than I line cook. Lol

Anyways that's not the argument. The argument is about women equating domestic labor to self worth in relationships.

If you'd like to talk about that...cool. I'm not interesting in debating if a task that people literally get paid to do is labor.

If you’re stuck on that then this is where the conversation ends.
 

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:dahell: maybe she likes cooking for the man. Even taking it outside of gender it's a very human thing to enjoy someone enjoying a meal you made

Everybody don't view cooking for their spouse as pejorative domestic labor

This argument has already been made and addressed. If you want a response feel free to check my other posts.
 
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