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Enjoy losing in Houston bruh.
 

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http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8182481/ian-oconnor-blame-carmelo-anthony-loss-jeremy-lin

so yeah I was 100% right



Much as he tried to run away from that "ridiculous contract" quote, Anthony's scrambling came in vain. "Melo didn't want Lin back, I do know that," said one source who has extensive dealings with the Knicks and their players. "Everybody in that locker room wanted Lin back except Melo and J.R. Smith."

In an interview with MSG's Alan Hahn during a Knicks summer league game, the dearly departed Landry Fields, of all people, delivered the Dolan dagger. "Poison pill?" Fields said of his buddy's Year 3 salary. "This is a Tic Tac for James Dolan."
 

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Stephen A reading that CAA press release this week during this whole saga was :laugh:


Here's what you need to know about Stephen A. Smith: Creative Artists Agency (CAA) has become a huge player very quickly in the representation of NBA players. This started with Lebron James, but now includes many if not most of the league's superstars along with lots of other smaller fish. You may have heard of William Wesley. He is a part of CAA.
CAA represents Carmelo Anthony, Mark Warkentien (advisor to Glenn Grunwald). The Knicks forced Woodson to switch to CAA before extending his contract. JR Smith is also represented by CAA.
MSG itself uses CAA to attract sponsorships. Eddy Curry and Renaldo Balkman were also repped by CAA, and Isiah Thomas has close ties to the agency.
Getting back to Steven A. Smith -- Smith knew a full week before anyone else had confirmation that Lebron was going to Miami. How did he know this? CAA of course. He traded his journalist soul (if he ever had one) in exchange for information about perhaps the biggest sports story of the millennium. In return, all he has to do is sell the angle that CAA wants him to sell.
CAA, of course, wants to grow the brand of its clients and to keep its clients happy. Before revising their statements, Smith and Melo seemed rather unhappy about sharing the spotlight with Lin, so that's one factor. Likewise, it doesn't behoove Anthony and therefore CAA to have Lin drawing all the popularity in NYC. Anthony, like Lebron, wants to be a legacy player, the kind of guy who still has his name on a shoe a decade after he's retired. That's the modern NBA goal -- to be the next Jordan, not necessarily on the basketball court (unless it's absolutely necessary), but definitely from a marketing standpoint.
Its a natural repercussion of media insanity. It makes everything seem about image, the game taking the backseat. Dwight Howard, for example, doesn't want to go to a contender. He wants to go somewhere he can build his brand. Carmelo could have picked lots of better teams if he wanted a championship, but NYC was a place you could have a marketing legacy.
My opinion, first of all, is that Dolan still believes that the acquisition of Carmelo Anthony was a steal, probably because CAA gave him the impression that it was only through his kindnesses to their agency (and not because NYC gave up a ton of assets) that he was able to acquire Anthony. JR Smith's cheap deals, too, were probably payback for Dolan's kindnesses to CAA. Who knows what level of under the table stuff there is going on between MSG and CAA.
So, when CAA's plans for Carmelo to be that Jordan level guy get threatened by Jeremy Lin, who has other representation, my guess is not too long after the gears were already turning to re-engineer the team so that Anthony could be front and center. First, it was D'Antoni, another guy not represented by CAA. His preferred style of play was A) Allowing Lin to thrive, and B) Preventing Melo from getting the requisite 28 PPG. As that plan was in danger of failure simply due to massive fan interest, Lin had to be removed from the equation entirely.
Again not realizing he was being played, Dolan accommodated CAA and let Lin go for nothing. So that's a big part of why all this has happened, and why the media, especially Stephen A (whose profile, thanks to CAA, is much bigger now) is slandering Lin and really has been slandering Lin ever since he broke out. Go look. You'll see he held out as long as he can with "flash in the pan" theories. You'll also see he called for D'Antoni's head before he was fired. here's a little love fest he gives for J.R. Smith. Here he already Knows MDA will be gone, and although he denies it, the headline and article's content clearly intends to portray D'Antoni as being at fault.
 

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Ok you can't say your 100% right by quoting anonymous sources . It sounds like both sides took each other for granted. Lins camp say they felt disrespected by the knicks not calling him at 12:01 , they also told teams on the phone if they offered a very large deal they didn't think the knicks would match . And the other article even says Dolan felt like Lin was being ungrateful . Your choosing to believe only sources that say what back you up .its clearly on both sides lins camp can say they felt disrespected then told teams to offer a poison pills contracts then blame melo . Lins camp says they did this .
By the way Landry knows nothing of the CBa if we add salary the cost of Lin 3rd year could be record breaking tax implications .
And lins extra appeal beneft*ts all the teams do the knicks paying all that tax for little benefit



Edit : you quote a article that says don't blame melo ? And that Dolan was angry that Lin tried to extort more money ?
The article blames Dolan not CAA not melo . Are you :troll:?
You realize Lin couldn't be a trade chip unless the bobcats or teams with cap want him ? We can't trade him in the first year without permission . The only way the deal benefits the Knicks is of Lin turns into a championship caliber pg quickly . Read the article I posted about the finances
 

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Ok you can't say your 100% right by quoting anonymous sources . It sounds like both sides took each other for granted. Lins camp say they felt disrespected by the knicks not calling him at 12:01 , they also told teams on the phone if they offered a very large deal they didn't think the knicks would match . And the other article even says Dolan felt like Lin was being ungrateful . Your choosing to believe only sources that say what back you up .its clearly on both sides lins camp can say they felt disrespected then told teams to offer a poison pills contracts then blame melo . Lins camp says they did this .
By the way Landry knows nothing of the CBa if we add salary the cost of Lin 3rd year could be record breaking tax implications .
And lins extra appeal beneft*ts all the teams do the knicks paying all that tax for little benefit

nah I hear you...there are two sides to every story....but I smelled this out WWAYYY back...especially when Donnie was pushed aside to make the Melo move.

if you think the Knicks are better off, cool. But building around Melo and JR Smith already failed once.
 

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Stephen A reading that CAA press release this week during this whole saga was :laugh:

Do you formulate any original thoughts of your own, or are all of your opinions based on the BS of beat writers and ESPN? It's getting pretty old. The CAA bullshyt is stuff I hear spouted from cats who want to pretend they know more about the business than they really do. You're telling me you sat there and read that "article" and gave it any credence? I'm guessing the Da Vinci Code is a personal favorite of yours. And you're quoting an Ian O'Connor article full of the usual stale anti-Dolan, anti-Melo rhetoric and where he clearly displays his faux anger keeps him from finding out what the fukk he's talking about:

On muscle memory, Dolan played the fool here. His anger shaped the indefensible position of allowing a valuable 23-year-old asset to leave the graying-by-the-transaction Knicks without securing a single player or draft pick in return.

How many times does it have to be said you can't pull off a sign and trade once an offer sheet has been signed?


I'm so fukking sick of this Lin story. It's Jeremy fukking Lin. Why is this shyt getting this much traction? This story is getting as much press as the Dwight Howard saga. Think about that for a second and tell me if it makes an ounce of sense.
 

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nah I hear you...there are two sides to every story....but I smelled this out WWAYYY back...especially when Donnie was pushed aside to make the Melo move.

if you think the Knicks are better off, cool. But building around Melo and JR Smith already failed once.

Well there not building around jr his contract so small he bombs he's gone plus he's always been a idiot the guy called out melo when jr was playing bad in the playoffs saying he should be able to do it by himself . The guy is a loose cannon . It's melo and amare. Enough with the lin talk i wish him the best . Lets talk about next season How do you feel about Felton knowing he's already in shape ? He sounds hungry ( no pun) And has a chip on his shoulder to prove the doubters wrong. Plus stat seems happy to have him back and we can't go far without stat .
 

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Do you formulate any original thoughts of your own, or are all of your opinions based on the BS of beat writers and ESPN? It's getting pretty old. The CAA bullshyt is stuff I hear spouted from cats who want to pretend they know more about the business than they really do. You're telling me you sat there and read that "article" and gave it any credence? I'm guessing the Da Vinci Code is a personal favorite of yours. And you're quoting an Ian O'Connor article full of the usual stale anti-Dolan, anti-Melo rhetoric and where he clearly displays his faux anger keeps him from finding out what the fukk he's talking about:



How many times does it have to be said you can't pull off a sign and trade once an offer sheet has been signed?


I'm so fukking sick of this Lin story. It's Jeremy fukking Lin. Why is this shyt getting this much traction? This story is getting as much press as the Dwight Howard saga. Think about that for a second and tell me if it makes an ounce of sense.

What do you want a positive James Dolan story? The guy is the worst owner in sports. The Knicks have the worst record in basketball since he took over.

This isnt some tin foil hat conspiracy....its obvious.

Here, another article from today

NBA -- Jeremy Lin Six Degrees Of Separation, The Family - ESPN

the way the Knicks do business is retarded....and their front office is the reason they've been terrible for so long now.
 

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Well there not building around jr his contract so small he bombs he's gone plus he's always been a idiot the guy called out melo when jr was playing bad in the playoffs saying he should be able to do it by himself . The guy is a loose cannon . It's melo and amare. Enough with the lin talk i wish him the best . Lets talk about next season How do you feel about Felton knowing he's already in shape ? He sounds hungry ( no pun) And has a chip on his shoulder to prove the doubters wrong. Plus stat seems happy to have him back and we can't go far without stat .

I've said my thoughts on next year man.

The offense running through Melo and JR is going to be pretty much how Woodson ran things in Atlanta.. Ball screen, iso...rinse, wash, repeat...with Melo being a better scorer than Josh Smith.

JR is going to freelance on the perimeter like Joe Johnson did.
The Knicks need to stay healthy. If Melo gets hurt again there isnt another guy picking up the slack like last year.

As for Amare I think he's Penny Hardaway levels of finished. His back is fukked up.
 
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