#Knicks have offered Carmelo Anthony a max deal worth $129m - 5 yrs. Lakers have offered $96m - 4yrs

[Victim of Racism]

Melo isn't interested in winning if he takes this deal. I can't blame him, the deal is amazing and once in a lifetime but still...he'll be playing by himself struggling to get the team to 500 and a 1st round knockout, yearly.

I'll never knock an athlete for chasing that money...shyt get it while the getting's good. But I don't wanna hear his complaining when he's taking summer vacations in April either

The deal of a team that when healthy won as many games last year as Miami did this year? A 54 win team that improved? A 54 win team that improved whose franchise will have so much cap space that they can sign another max player next year even if 'Melo takes the max this year?

 

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Lj ain't never carried anyone to the Finals. Let's not act like Lj didn't face two .500 teams in the 1st and 2nd rounds, while on a 50 win team to get to the Finals in '07. Let's not act like Daniel Gibson wasn't the one who eliminated the Pistons for Lj to get to the Finals that year, only to get swept by an old Spurs team, while playing midget-like yet again in the postseason. All Lj carried last season were the fga's. Like in game 5 of the ECF when he took 26 shots and gave Bosh and Wade 15 to share (). He averaged 20 fga's per game to Wade's 13 and Bosh's 9 in that series (). Wade called him out. Brian Windhorst, who is an Lj Stan wrote...



Let's not act like Lj hasn't missed the Playoffs more times than 'Melo.

We get it, you hate Lebron, but if you had to build a team, you would pick Lebron over Melo ten times out of ten, unless you were the GM for the knicks....or in other words, an idiot.

 

[NYK Loyalist]

Your statements about his defense is a lie and so is your statement about making his teammates better. Last season 'Melo's overall defense ranked in the 69th%tile (a full 19% above average). He was excellent in defending the post up (his position [PF] that season), as he ranked in the 92nd%tile. His teammates because the GOAT 3pt shooting team because of how his skilled offense got them open. That's called making them better. Lj never plays defense. That's one of the reasons Miami got smashed.

The Knicks were 37-45 in a terrible conference and they have never been the goat 3 pt shooting team, check the stats. I'm not a fan of Lebron but he took worse teams than Melo had this year to the finals in Cleveland and to say he never plays defense is ridiculous. Melo has the potential to be a great defender but he has never given the effort consistently that he needs to. It's not all his fault but I can't call someone a top 5 player in the game when you can't even take your team to the playoffs in the east.

 

[Crack Daniels]

The deal of a team that when healthy won as many games last year as Miami did this year? A 54 win team that improved? A 54 win team that improved whose franchise will have so much cap space that they can sign another max player next year even if 'Melo takes the max this year?

Whatever happens this offseason, this team will look nothing like the 12-13 team...at all. I don't even know why you brought them up at all. The only returning players would be Shump JR, Amare, and Melo and they'd all be playing in a completely new system under a rookie coach. And I'm not exactly sold on them being all that improved...but time will tell

 

[Victim of Racism]

We get it, you hate Lebron, but if you had to build a team, you would pick Lebron over Melo ten times out of ten, unless you were the GM for the knicks....or in other words, an idiot.

I love Lj as a person and player. I love to watch him run (no, literally, I get giddy when I see him run because he's so fast), and dunk but because teams don't let him do those things that much because they wanna win, he bores me. I think he's a sweetheart, unlike Wade (whose game I love). I love Lj's commercials and to me, he seems to have natural acting ability. I'm just not impressed with players who can't shoot because they perform like he did in the 2007 Finals, 2013 Finals, 2014 Finals, and 2011 Finals, even on good teams. I wouldn't pick the dude who is such a poor shooter that he gets punked by players much shorter than he is (Terry, Barea, Kidd). I wouldn't pick the dude that got stomped by the AARP club because he keeps getting punked by a guy Pop wouldn't even put on 'Melo (Kawhi). Last year, instead of putting Kawhi on 'Melo, he resolved to double him and the Spurs still lost. Imagine if they had doubled him with Bosh and Wade playing next to him. If 'Melo can get to the WCF with old Billups and a bunch of role players who couldn't shoot at all, you can put him on Lj's 50 win team that went to the Finals in the East and played two .500 teams to get there, and I guarantee you he doesn't play midget-like in the Finals. Send him to Miami and he wins more than 2 of 4 and plays bigger than Lj. Is everyone on this board an Lj stan?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I love Lj as a person and player. I love to watch him run (no, literally, I get giddy when I see him run because he's so fast), and dunk but because teams don't let him do those things that much because they wanna win, he bores me. I think he's a sweetheart, unlike Wade (whose game I love). I love Lj's commercials and to me, he seems to have natural acting ability. I'm just not impressed with players who can't shoot because they perform like he did in the 2007 Finals, 2013 Finals, 2014 Finals, and 2011 Finals, even on good teams. I wouldn't pick the dude who is such a poor shooter that he gets punked by players much shorter than he is (Terry, Barea, Kidd). I wouldn't pick the dude that got stomped by the AARP club because he keeps getting punked by a guy Pop wouldn't even put on 'Melo (Kawhi). Last year, instead of putting Kawhi on 'Melo, he resolved to double him and the Spurs still lost. Imagine if they had doubled him with Bosh and Wade playing next to him. If 'Melo can get to the WCF with old Billups and a bunch of role players who couldn't shoot at all, you can put him on Lj's 50 win team that went to the Finals in the East and played two .500 teams to get there, and I guarantee you he doesn't play midget-like in the Finals. Send him to Miami and he wins more than 2 of 4 and plays bigger than Lj. Is everyone on this board an Lj stan?

This is some serious trollin.

 

[Victim of Racism]

The Knicks were 37-45 in a terrible conference and they have never been the goat 3 pt shooting team, check the stats. I'm not a fan of Lebron but he took worse teams than Melo had this year to the finals in Cleveland and to say he never plays defense is ridiculous. Melo has the potential to be a great defender but he has never given the effort consistently that he needs to. It's not all his fault but I can't call someone a top 5 player in the game when you can't even take your team to the playoffs in the east.

They broke the NBA record for most 3's made in a season. That Cleveland team in '07 was a 50-win team. You check the stats. Lj missed the Playoffs more times than 'Melo. You are a disgrace to Knicks fans. I hope you're not from NY.


Inconsistent effort? Who cooked him since he's been in NY? I can tell you how many 3's J.R. hit in Lj's face. Last season 'Melo's overall defense ranked in the 69th%tile (a full 19% above average; how is 69% out of 100% not great?). He was excellent in defending the post up (his position [PF] that season), as he ranked in the 92nd%tile. It's extremely tough to guard those big, strong PF's and 'Melo did it almost flawlessly. Lj is so weak and soft that he won't even take on that challenge of defending people with size, like 'Melo and West. He lets Battier do it, even though he's much younger and bigger (he got like 20-lbs on battier).
Serge Ibaka said in the 2012 finals: "LeBron is not a good defender. He can play defense for two to three minutes but not 48 minutes".

Lj is horrid and very lazy at defense. He's a terrible on-ball defender. He only defends in spurts and takes 2/3rds of games off, for the most part. He doesn't shut anyone down. He stops moving/guarding someone, watches his opponents shoot the ball in and then looks down at one of his teammates to wonder what they were doing. I can give Youtube links of this, if you like, because the film don't lie. He even blamed Chalmers when Paul George dunked on him in that game in Indy before the Playoffs.

Lj defends in transition at times. He'll roam around and make plays when he's out of position (or gambling) and he makes the flashy plays that everyone loves (steals, blocks), but when he has to face his opponent up, he's terrible. His steals be off bad passes. You never see him press someone and take their dribble. What you do see, is him play the passing lanes.

Last season he made Durant shoot very poorly and the only reason he got 27 pts is from the free throw line. Lj won't even shoot when 'Melo is guarding him. That's the top 2 scorers (besides himself, of course) that he shuts down. Lj can't do that. He can't defend anyone w/ talent. 'Melo and Durant be lighting him up for 30pts (Durant), 38-40+ pts and game-winners ('Melo). Lj said he can't guard KD in this video below:



In this video, he claims that no one can guard KD but 'Melo sure did last season. Metta can guard KD too. KD always tries to get the switch when Metta is guarding him.

Lj is one of the worst defenders in the league. He roams because he's too lazy to stay in front of his own man. 'Melo is not like that. 'Melo sticks to his man. In Lj's off-ball defense, he often loses his man, and blames it on Chalmers.

 

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The broke the NBA record for most 3's made in a season. That Cleveland team in '07 was a 50-win team. You check the stats. Lj missed the Playoffs more times than 'Melo. You are a disgrace to Knicks fans. I hope you're not from NY.


Inconsistent effort? Who cooked him since he's been in NY? I can tell you how many 3's J.R. hit in Lj's face. Last season 'Melo's overall defense ranked in the 69th%tile (a full 19% above average). He was excellent in defending the post up (his position [PF] that season), as he ranked in the 92nd%tile. It's extremely tough to guard those big, strong PF's and 'Melo did it almost flawlessly. Lj is so weak and soft that he won't even take on that challenge of defending people with size, like 'Melo and West. He lets Battier do it, even though he's much younger and bigger (he got like 20-lbs on battier). Now let's talk about iso defense. 'Melo was awful in that, 31st percentile last year but guess what, Lj is even worse this year, 28th percentile. Check out all these years that Lj was below average to average at defense:

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2004.html

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2005.html

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2006.html

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2007.html

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2008.html

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2013.html

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/ratings/2014.html

When Serge Ibaka said in the 2012 finals: "LeBron is not a good defender. He can play defense for two to three minutes but not 48 minutes. LeBron can't play (Durant) one-on-one. They're playing good defense like a team", Beckly Mason noted:

"The tape shows Durant is hardly struggling in one-on-one confrontations with James. In fact, James has not been able to stay in front of Durant off the dribble and Durant has also been able to shoot with relative ease because James tends to play one-on-one defense with his hands low. Durant has missed some open shots, but for the most part he's getting the same looks he did against Battier". This was when Serge Ibaka said:

Lj is horrid and very lazy at defense. When Lj gets settled in a half court defense, he is always looking for the ball and not always watching his man. He's a terrible on-ball defender. He only defends in spurts and takes 2/3rds of games off, for the most part. He doesn't shut anyone down. He stops moving/guarding someone, watches his opponents shoot the ball in and then looks down at one of his teammates to wonder what they were doing. I can give Youtube links of this, if you like, because the film don't lie. He even blamed Chalmers when Paul George dunked on him in that game in Indy before the Playoffs.

He gets beat off the dribble a lot and his lateral movements are horrendous. Lj defends in transition at times. He'll roam around and make plays when he's out of position (or gambling) and he makes the flashy plays that everyone loves (steals, blocks), but when he has to face his opponent up, he's terrible. His steals be off bad passes. You never see him press someone and take their dribble. What you do see, is him play the passing lanes.

Last season he made Durant shoot very poorly and the only reason he got 27 pts is from the free throw line. Lj won't even shoot when 'Melo is guarding him. That's the top 2 scorers (besides himself, of course) that he shuts down. Who lit 'Melo up this season? Lj can't do that. He can't defend anyone w/ talent. 'Melo and Durant be lighting him up for 30pts (Durant), 38-40+ pts and game-winners ('Melo). That's why in that last game against NY, little bitty J.R. kept hitting 3's in Lj's face. Lj said he can't guard KD in this video below:



In this video, he claims that no one can guard KD but 'Melo sure did last season. Metta can guard KD too. KD always tries to get the switch when Metta is guarding him.

Lj is one of the worst defenders in the league. He roams because he's too lazy to stay in front of his own man. 'Melo is not like that. 'Melo sticks to his man. In Lj's off-ball defense, he often loses his man, and blames it on Chalmers.

I'll be the first to admit, i'll talk out my ass when it comes to shytting on Melo and the knicks because I hate them so much, but you are seriously committed to being fukking ridiculous. You are fukking crazy, you actually believe the shyt you typing.

 

[Victim of Racism]

Whatever happens this offseason, this team will look nothing like the 12-13 team...at all. I don't even know why you brought them up at all. The only returning players would be Shump JR, Amare, and Melo and they'd all be playing in a completely new system under a rookie coach. And I'm not exactly sold on them being all that improved...but time will tell

I brought them up because the only difference was J.R. being hurt. Tyson played like trash last season and got owned by Roy (let that sink in). Cole outplayed him in NY (let that sink in) and so did Sam in Dallas.

New system? When did Swag Antonio ever play like trash because they played under a new system?

Rookie coach? You mean the one who knows that system so well that he won 5 ch'ips playing in it? The one who has 2 more players (Shannon and Odom) that know the system so well that they won 2 ch'ips together playing in it? The one who has an assistant coach who knows the system so well that he won a ch'ip assisting in teaching it? The one who has Phil Jackson himself to fill any gaps? The one who has tons of experience winning in a player/coach role? That rookie coach?

Not sold on them being improved? I'll let that sink in. I'll bet you weren't saying that when Felton, J.R., and Shump were playing like trash (before the latter 2 cleaned that up), when STAT was on that bench (before he got up off that bench and played well).

Only players returning? Should Tyson or Felton return? Should non-shooting Kidd return? When he couldn't hit those 3's, NY struggled. Should Camby, or Kurt?

 

[Victim of Racism]

I'll be the first to admit, i'll talk out my ass when it comes to shytting on Melo and the knicks because I hate them so much, but you are seriously committed to being fukking ridiculous. You are fukking crazy, you actually believe the shyt you typing.

Translation: You don't have a rebuttal.

 

[fact]

Translation: You don't have a rebuttal.

I would be conceding to my own insanity if I was to continue this conversation. Let this sink in, on no universe, alternate reality, any league in the galaxy, is Melo a better player than Lebron fukking James. You. Are. Fukking. Crazy.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Translation: You don't have a rebuttal.

You need some help.

 

[Victim of Racism]

I would be conceding to my own insanity if I was to continue this conversation. Let this sink in, on no universe, alternate reality, any league in the galaxy, is Melo a better player than Lebron fukking James. You. Are. Fukking. Crazy.

Says the poster who worships players who get punked by players much small than they are. Let this sink in, in no universe, alternate reality, any place in the galaxy, is an assertion a rebuttal.

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

competition is too heavy in the west Melo is not getting any younger..needsto stay in NY

 

[The War Report]

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