Kobe and AI Never Shot Close to 50percent FG% Once In Their Career

[Roger king]

Old heads can you explain this to us looking at both these guys careers they are frequently known to be scorers and shooters but yet they were highly inefficient looking over the span of their careers i was shocked that kobe never shoot over 47percent from the field and AI never came close to that in a full season. In comparison guys like jordan, wade and curry have shot over 50 percent several times in their careers for the entire season.

 

[Brozay]

it’s 3am where I’m at, what are you doing with your life making this thread at this hour?

 

[Ozymandeas]

Now check the other fifteen guards in the league back then and see what they averaged.

 

[Roger king]

Now check the other fifteen guards in the league back then and see what they averaged.

The other fifteen guards arent heralded as top 10 players or pronounced as the greatest scorers of all time what im trying to drill into is why were AI and kobe such non efficient in taking shots?

 

[LV Koopa]

50% is a random number. Guards generally did not shoot that well with the level of usage AI and Kobe had. Those that did are basically GOAT level scorers, Steph, Wade, CP3, and Booker types.

If you want to know how great they were as scorers, you would use relative TS%. This isn't the end all be all but its decent to get an idea. AI is well known for his terrible performances. Funny thing is the word about Kobe was he generally played well vs top tier defenses, Wade would go Superman vs all time level defenses(2003 Indy, 2004 Detroit), and MJ was MJ. Then guys like Lebron and KD would basically maintain superstar numbers vs everyone.

 

[Roger king]

50% is a random number. Guards generally did not shoot that well with the level of usage AI and Kobe had. Those that did are basically GOAT level scorers, Steph, Wade, CP3, and Booker types.

If you want to know how great they were as scorers, you would use relative TS%. This isn't the end all be all but its decent to get an idea. AI is well known for his terrible performances. Funny thing is the word about Kobe was he generally played well vs top tier defenses, Wade would go Superman vs all time level defenses(2003 Indy, 2004 Detroit), and MJ was MJ. Then guys like Lebron and KD would basically maintain superstar numbers vs everyone.

I disagree that it is a random number for years it has been thought of that 50percent from the field is efficient and shows effective shot selections. Everyone played against capable defenses the question is why were those guys who people proclaim as one of the greatest to ever play and for kobe top 10 so poor from the field shooting wise

 

[bl2k8]

That shytty ass all star weekend has people in their feelings

 

[987654321]

 

[Sccit]

DEFENSE WAS TOUGHER AND THE RULES WERENT DESIGNED TO GIVE THE OFFENSE NEARLY AS MUCH FREEDOM AS WE SEE NOWADAYS

NOTICE LEBRON AND KD NEVER SHOT 50% IN THE 2000S

THATS NOT BY ACCIDENT

NOT TO MENTION, GUARDS WHO OPERATE MOSTLY ON THE PERIMETER WILL NATURALLY SHOOT A LOWER PERCENTAGE…

NOBODY THINKS RUDY GOBERT IS A MORE EFFICIENT SCORER THAN STEPH CURRY, BUT HIS PERCENTAGE IS NATURALLY MUCH HIGHER

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 50% AND 45% IS 10/20 VS 9/20.. LITERALLY 1 SHOT IN 20 ATTEMPTS

BTW GROUPING AI AND KOBE TOGETHER IS DISINGENUOUS .. PRIME IVERSON WAS GENERALLY AROUND 40%-42% WHILE PRIME KOBE WAS 45%-47%…..BIG DIFFERENCE

 

[Roger king]

DEFENSE WAS TOUGHER AND THE RULES WERENT DESIGNED TO GIVE THE OFFENSE NEARLY AS MUCH FREEDOM AS WE SEE NOWADAYS

NOTICE LEBRON AND KD NEVER SHOT 50% IN THE 2000S

THATS NOT BY ACCIDENT

NOT TO MENTION, GUARDS WHO OPERATE MOSTLY ON THE PERIMETER WILL NATURALLY SHOOT A LOWER PERCENTAGE…

NOBODY THINKS RUDY GOBERT IS A MORE EFFICIENT SCORER THAN STEPH CURRY, BUT HIS PERCENTAGE IS NATURALLY MUCH HIGHER

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 50% AND 45% IS 10/20 VS 9/20.. LITERALLY 1 SHOT IN 20 ATTEMPTS

BTW GROUPING AI AND KOBE TOGETHER IS DISINGENUOUS .. PRIME IVERSON WAS GENERALLY AROUND 40%-42% WHILE PRIME KOBE WAS 45%-47%…..BIG DIFFERENCE

False. In the 2009-10 season lebron shot over 50 percent, even before the 2010s hit he was averaging over that from the field when the season began. 2000s end by december 31 2009. Secondly guys like steve nash with the same so called fabled ''tougher defense'' where shooting over 50 percent for several years from the 2004 season to the 2009 season nash was very efficient with that same so called tougher defense, same for shooters like dirk who shot over 50 percent with mainly jumpshots and 3s in that same era, so why were kobe and AI inefficient?

 

[Da King]

Simple, defense was allowed when they played

 

[Still Benefited]

They took bad shots because they were the best scorers on their team. A bad shot from Iverson is still better than an open Eric Snow shot. Iversons scoring was more effecient once he went to play with Melo in Denver,assist numbers even went up. Of course he eventually went back to hero ball and taking bad shots again. Its a bad habit to allow players to start(taking bad shots). But do you think coaches would allow it if they were just two scrubs chucking up shots?

 

[King Harlem]

The hero ball era was bad basketball. We look back at it with fondness because that is the way nostalgia works but it was a terribly inefficient era of basketball. That being said, you should judge them in the era they played and not use this era (where statistical analytics is used in ever factor).

 

[FaTaL]

Here’s a secret, neither guy was a good shooter, especially ai

 

[HandyWithTheSteel]

Simple, defense was allowed when they played

The same defense that allowed Steve Nash to win 2 MVPs and had multiple 50% FG seasons on.