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No purpose in going back and forth with you, you don’t watch basketball games, you just a LeBron fan boy who thinks Bron is out there playing tennis:camby:
Every argument you’ve made has been thoroughly shattered. It’s about time you drop and just say you think Kobe is the best because his game was prettiest; like a 5th grade girl describing their favorite Disney princess .

Try arguing with facts and you get destroyed. Can’t be the best if you weren’t even the best on your own team. :yeshrug:
 

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Say missing 4 free throws in a game you lost by one point doesn't matter brehs :russ: Nikka lost by one point, you dumb bish. Then he lost by two points in another game. If he could shoot or hit free throws, those are wins, dumbass :russ:

Everything I post is facts. It happened. Anybody can look up GM 1, GM 3, GM 4 and GM 6 of the 2009 Orlando-Cleveland series and see the data. Everything you post is opinion and emotion :umad: LeBron is not a better performer than Kobe. He lost 6 Finals and only got there in the first place because he played in a weak conference where five of their playoff teams out East (2009) wouldn’t have made the playoffs out West :mjlol:
More retarded posting :unimpressed:

The irony of you using a series from Lebron that was statistically better than damn near ANY series Kobe has ever played is hilarious. shyt, Kobe played Orlando that same season and was outperformed by Lebron. The difference was Pau outscoring Dwight and every other Magic player.

Any thorough statistical analysis paints Lebron as another level of playoff performer than Kobe, it isn't even a discussion. Bron is a more efficient scorer, averaged a higher ppg in every round of the playoffs, better against tougher defenses, and had more high volume scoring performances even relative to games played. Not to mention the difference in playmaking.

Lebron lost 6 finals because he was a significant underdog for like 75% of them, in some cases taking teams that had no business even making the conference finals to the finals. Kobe with similar supporting casts could hardly make the playoffs let alone win a single playoff round. And even so, Lebron has finals losses (2014, 2015, 2017, 2018) that are as good or better than most of Kobe's finals wins. If only Lebron was able to win a finals series averaging 15 PPG on 36 FG% and less points than his teammate had rebounds :dead:


Here's a more thorough statistical analysis than if only Lebron made more free throws :unimpressed:

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Every argument you’ve made has been thoroughly shattered. It’s about time you drop and just say you think Kobe is the best because his game was prettiest; like a 5th grade girl describing their favorite Disney princess .

Try arguing with facts and you get destroyed. Can’t be the best if you weren’t even the best on your own team. :yeshrug:
Can’t be the best when you trying to team up with your competition instead of trying to dominate them. The facts are that LeBron has a losing finals record despite all the super team creations, no amount of “check my stats” is going to change that :sadbron:
 

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Can’t be the best when you trying to team up with your competition instead of trying to dominate them. The facts are that LeBron has a losing finals record despite all the super team creations, no amount of “check my stats” is going to change that :sadbron:
Wade who lost in the first round and won 47 games was Lebrons competition? Kevin Love who won 40 games in Minnesota and Kyrie Irving who won 33 games and never even made the playoffs before was Lebrons competition :bryan:

Lebrons alpha rings > Kobe’s sidekick rings you fakkit :umad:
 

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More retarded posting :unimpressed:

The irony of you using a series from Lebron that was statistically better than damn near ANY series Kobe has ever played is hilarious. shyt, Kobe played Orlando that same season and was outperformed by Lebron. The difference was Pau outscoring Dwight and every other Magic player.

Any thorough statistical analysis paints Lebron as another level of playoff performer than Kobe, it isn't even a discussion. Bron is a more efficient scorer, averaged a higher ppg in every round of the playoffs, better against tougher defenses, and had more high volume scoring performances even relative to games played. Not to mention the difference in playmaking.

Lebron lost 6 finals because he was a significant underdog for like 75% of them, in some cases taking teams that had no business even making the conference finals to the finals. Kobe with similar supporting casts could hardly make the playoffs let alone win a single playoff round. And even so, Lebron has finals losses (2014, 2015, 2017, 2018) that are as good or better than most of Kobe's finals wins. If only Lebron was able to win a finals series averaging 15 PPG on 36 FG% and less points than his teammate had rebounds :dead:


Here's a more thorough statistical analysis than if only Lebron made more free throws :unimpressed:

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Blah blah blah. You addressed nothing I said. We talk to you, you post 3 paragraphs of unrelated nonsense, and dodge everything.

You're literally a dumbass.
 

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I looked up Bron's series vs. Boston in 2008 and yo....Bron got away with ALOT of terrible performances.

Started off GM 1 with 12 points (2/18 - 111% :dahell:), 9 rebounds, 9 assists, 10 turnovers

Whole series averaged 26.7 points (355% FG), 6 rebounds 7 assists, 5 turnovers

"Better Playoff Performer" :mjlol:
 

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Which makes no sense since Bron has never won a title with a team built around him from scratch. Where as the Bulls, Lakers, and Warriors were able to win multiple titles with teams built entirely from scratch around MJ, Kobe, Steph.

Its my personal opinion cuh if you would take Kobe instead to start a squad thats perfectly understandable and I get it :manny:
 

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I looked up Bron's series vs. Boston in 2008 and yo....Bron got away with ALOT of terrible performances.

Started off GM 1 with 12 points (2/18 - 111% :dahell:), 9 rebounds, 9 assists, 10 turnovers

Whole series averaged 26.7 points (355% FG), 6 rebounds 7 assists, 5 turnovers

"Better Playoff Performer" :mjlol:
He finished that series scoring 32, 35 and 45 and took a prime Big 3 Celtics to 7 games and the last shot with Wally Szerbiack and Delonte West.

Same Celtics team that be the fukk out of the Lakers by 40 points in game 6.

Oh how did Kobe do in game 4 to keep his team from going down 3-1 AT HOME?

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Meanwhile LeBron was going 1 on 4,

 
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Wade who lost in the first round and won 47 games was Lebrons competition? Kevin Love who won 40 games in Minnesota and Kyrie Irving who won 33 games and never even made the playoffs before was Lebrons competition :bryan:

Lebrons alpha rings > Kobe’s sidekick rings you fakkit :umad:
Wade made your boy relevant though. He was the scoring champ the season before LeBron ran to him for help. And he was a finals MVP before LeBron. No matter how you try to twist it it’s really cheap and definitely put a bit on his legacy like Barkley said :umad:
 

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Wade made your boy relevant though. He was the scoring champ the season before LeBron ran to him for help. And he was a finals MVP before LeBron. No matter how you try to twist it it’s really cheap and definitely put a bit on his legacy like Barkley said :umad:
Nope it’s the opposite. Wade needed LeBron because his knee was cooked.


“It was frustrating for him. He couldn’t play back-to-back games or play consistently because every time he would play, his knees would swell up,” James said. “He’d talk about, ‘I don’t know, man. I don’t know if I can continue to do this. I don’t think I can do it.’ I couldn’t say anything other than, ‘Let’s get through this season. Make the most of it.’



Dude missed half the season at 30 :mjtf:
 

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Wade who lost in the first round and won 47 games was Lebrons competition? Kevin Love who won 40 games in Minnesota and Kyrie Irving who won 33 games and never even made the playoffs before was Lebrons competition :bryan:

Lebrons alpha rings > Kobe’s sidekick rings you fakkit :umad:
Kobe was leading his team to 3 straight finals and winning back to back while that mental midget LeBron was choking and begging DWade and Bosh to team up.

Ain’t no Alpha rings for ya mans, every superstar he beats in the finals always spin the block and get it back :sadbron:
 
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Nope it’s the opposite. Wade needed LeBron because his knee was cooked.


“It was frustrating for him. He couldn’t play back-to-back games or play consistently because every time he would play, his knees would swell up,” James said. “He’d talk about, ‘I don’t know, man. I don’t know if I can continue to do this. I don’t think I can do it.’ I couldn’t say anything other than, ‘Let’s get through this season. Make the most of it.’



Dude missed half the season at 30 :mjtf:
You didn’t rebut anything I brought up .

Was or wasn’t wade the scoring champ the season before LeBron joined?

Was wade a finals mvp before LeBron tucked tail and ran to him for help?


Those two points alone disqualify him as a goat candidate and definitely places him below Kobe all time.

I’ve never heard of a so called goat leaving his franchise to join another team with an established finals MVP
… and scoring champ… and MVP candidate .
 
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