“Kobe belongs in the GOAT conversation” - Dennis Rodman
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How about the entire league
His peers in other sports
Former legends
Every major publication
Nah MAGAt mambas are the Marjorie Taylor Greenes of NBA fans because you refuse to accept reality despite all evidence to the contrary
LeBron has more accolades than Kobe
LeBron has more records than Kobe
LeBron beat Kobe’s ass head 2 head
Kobe isn’t even the best Laker how can he be goat
Kobe was less successful without Shaq. Doesn’t change the fact we know who the sidekick was
This is Kobe vs the Pistons with the goat center
This is LeBron at 22 years old with boobie gibson
I’m sure you’re fan club is real popular at the QuincenerasAs Kevin Durant told your goof asses “if you went to the locker room they’d call the police on you”
One more for good measure
Nah I thought you were the gaymaican. You start to blend together
Do not care, both ring less and switched multiple teams trying to get a ring. Not as alphas but side kicks like Kobe.
Nobody of relevance views his rings as cheap
In fact his performances during the Heatles era are legendary
And the league was its most popular since Jordan
The “Heatles” era
By the time LeBron James joined the Miami Heat in 2010, attention to his free agency had reached critical mass. “The Decision” — the nearly 13-year-old TV special that made James the most polarizing athlete in America to this very day — averaged nearly ten million viewers, and in mid-July no less.
That massive interest carried into the NBA season. Viewership jumped 35% from 1.85 million in 2009-10 to 2.51 million in the 2010-11 and 2011-12 seasons, nearly matching Jordan’s final two years with the Bulls (1996-97: 2.62M; 1997-98: 2.64M) despite far fewer games airing on broadcast television.
Even when viewership dipped in James’ final two seasons in Miami, the numbers remained well above the pre-“Decision” average. The 2012-13 season averaged 2.17 million and 2013-14 pulled 1.95 million, figures that remain unmatched in any subsequent season.
NBA ratings deep-dive: Where does the league stand?
Much has been written about NBA ratings the past few years, but where does the league truly stand? This deep dive seeks to answer.www.sportsmediawatch.com
bytches lie, MAGAt mambas lie, numbers don’t lie
Dwade was 4 years removed from finals mvp and plagued with injuries. He won a scoring title and immediately took a back seat to LeBron which shows Lebrons level
Comparatively Kobe took a back seat to Shaq and when he assumed the alpha role they got their ass beat and the team imploded
Don’t be fooled. Kobe’s usage was higher than Shaq despite his abysmal numbers
Team sport. LeBron averaged a 40 point triple double and defended all 5 positions including blocking Dwight’s shot multiple times
The Magic shot 40% from 3 in the series.
Lebron handled Kobe with ease.
Besides his fraudulent all defense teams and sidekick rings. Kobe has zero accolades over Bron
Bo Outlaw with a hall pass
Imagine celebrating personal trainer rings
“Kobe motivated Shaq to average 40 points and 20 rebounds”
Cookin these goofs
Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
Torrential
LWO
How about the entire league
His peers in other sports
Former legends
Every major publication
Nah MAGAt mambas are the Marjorie Taylor Greenes of NBA fans because you refuse to accept reality despite all evidence to the contrary
LeBron has more accolades than Kobe
LeBron has more records than Kobe
LeBron beat Kobe’s ass head 2 head
Kobe isn’t even the best Laker how can he be goat
Kobe was less successful without Shaq. Doesn’t change the fact we know who the sidekick was
This is Kobe vs the Pistons with the goat center
This is LeBron at 22 years old with boobie gibson
I’m sure you’re fan club is real popular at the Quinceneras
Straw man once again . Never addesssed my point about Stockton, Magic , Jordan and others stating running to Wade for help like a hoe makes his rings cheap.
Isaiah Thomas (2018, the 5’9″ IT) — called Kobe “the best player to ever play.”
DeMar DeRozan — “Kobe is my GOAT …” (podcast appearance, 2024).
Paul George — “My GOAT is Kobe… that’s my era.”
Jayson Tatum — explained why Kobe is his GOAT on TNT (2024).
Nick Young — said he believes Kobe is the “real GOAT.”
Austin Reaves — on his 2025 Asia tour, named Kobe as his GOAT.
Allen Iverson — in his Players’ Tribune letter: MJ #1, “Number 2… Kobe Bryant.”
Stephon Marbury — “second-greatest … right behind Michael Jordan,” and ahead of LeBron (2024 interview).
Jamal Murray — when asked his all-time order: “MJ, Kobe, LeBron.” (2018)
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Tony Parker — has MJ as GOAT, then Kobe, then LeBron (recounting a 2020 interview).
Matt Barnes — “It’s MJ, Kobe and then Bron.” (2025).
Tracy McGrady — “If MJ is the GOAT and Kobe’s the closest to MJ, how is Kobe excluded from this conversation?” (2024).
Shaquille O’Neal — said he’s frustrated when GOAT talk skips from MJ to LeBron “and no Kobe,” insisting Kobe must be mentioned
Charles Barkley — puts Kobe above LeBron and alongside MJ in his personal hierarchy (2025).
I’m citing sources more reputable than yours. Please tell me what are YOUR credentials to evaluate a person’s talent ? Huh anti-vaxer? Who are YOU in comparison to multiple Dr Fauci’s who are telling us 1) lebrons rings are cheap 2) Kobe is either GOAT or behind MJ? Notice how my sources are NBA players not the same not shytty infographics from Instagram you keep spamming
numbers can be twisted . Expert opinion matters.As I’ve stated before and you keep ducking
lebrons rings have no merit anything achieved through exploiting parity by running to an established finals mvp and scoring champ is not relevant .- https://www.basketballnetwork.net/o...-rocking-kobe-bryants-shoes-since-high-school
- Isaiah Thomas Says Kobe Bryant Is ’The Best Player To Ever Play’
- https://fadeawayworld.net/paul-geor...the-all-time-goat-but-kobe-bryant-is-his-goat
- Nick Young Delivers Shocking Kobe Bryant & Michael Jordan Take: Watch
- Austin Reaves says Kobe Bryant is his GOAT
- Dear Kobe | By Allen Iverson
- NBA point guard Stephon Marbury criticizes LeBron James, asserts Kobe Bryant is greater: "Why would someone rank LeBron above Kobe?" | NBA News - Times of India
- I won 4 NBA titles & played against the best - MJ is the GOAT & Kobe over LeBron
- Dwyane Wade picks his seven greatest NBA players, calling Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant same players | NBA News - Times of India
- Charles Barkley ends NBA GOAT debate and explains why LeBron can't compete
Borrowing LeBron Stan logic which Kobe Shaq rings don’t count right ? So by that same logic then tell me how rings won running from Dwight Howard’s smoke to a D Wade Bosh and ray allen etc we're going to use that criteria on KobeBryant. As Barkley stated below . If you’re going to penalize Kobe for winning with Shaq you have to dot eh dame for LeBron running to the competition for help .
Next id like to talk about why you’re so adamant about discounting Durante rings. By your logic his rings don’t count because why…?Nobody care about them Durant rings.
Deep down you know it’s the same for LeBron. His rings don’t count either
Oh and btw no shooting guard ever won finals mvp matches up against Kobe like Durant won against LeBron. Because Kobe is arguably the best guard defender of all time .
LeBron will never hold a candle to Kobe . All nba defense selections
Pretty pathetic LeBron couldn’t beat out Paul Milsap for an all nba defense selection … despite playing on a super team
and a losing finals record despite playing on two super teams .
Dwight Howard
Superstar
Bannable post
Torrential
LWO
Right? Delusion and mental illness fuel this type of posting. Experts agree he is top 2 lock in. What’s a coli poster to nba hall of famers
David_TheMan
Banned
Only delusional Kobe fans have him as a top two playerRight? Delusion and mental illness fuel this type of posting. Experts agree he is top 2 lock in. What’s a coli poster to nba hall of famers
Gilbert arenas dumb assGive Jordan lebron team he wouldn’t made the playoffs
Jordan made the playoffs in 85 and 86 with a shytty ass roster
Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
How about hall of famer Isaiah Thomas?
How about the entire league
His peers in other sports
Former legends
Every major publication
I’ve posted numerous videos, tweets and an NBA poll showing that LeBron is considered greater than Kobe by the wider boxing public and not the good ass Armenian, Somalian, Israeli, Mexican hairlineless retards of the coli.
Not only do so basketball peers consider him nearly 1B to Jordan, his NFL peers do as well
Give it up
“I’m LWO” “my parents came into this contree in 2000 and I’m da biggest Kobe fan”Alpha rings > sidekick rings
Kobe isn’t even the GOAT Laker how can he be behind Mj?
Go on and make a credible argument as to why Kobe should be above Kareem?
Kareem has better stats, more records, more chips, more awards and better player efficiencies across the board.
You gotta stop this. Luke, Steph, Jokic and maybe Durant all passing Kobe by the time their careers are over. Stop worrying about LeBron
Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
Y’all I’m struggling to think of a sport where you can have an argument for goat without not having any individual records, outstanding accolades or accomplishments over your peers?
Soccer? Maradona doesn’t really own any individual awards or records but won 2 world cups which any soccer player will tell you is the greatest feat you could ever aspire to and he did it twice.
Hockey? Nope.
Football? Not really. Some try to sneak Marino in there but while he revolutionized the game vertically is more of a contrarian pick. Position by position many will argue Barry over Emmitt but Barry retired out of choice not his ability declining.
Baseball? Willie Mays? But he owned a bunch of records when he retired and was perhaps the best all around offensive player of all time.
Soccer? Maradona doesn’t really own any individual awards or records but won 2 world cups which any soccer player will tell you is the greatest feat you could ever aspire to and he did it twice.
Hockey? Nope.
Football? Not really. Some try to sneak Marino in there but while he revolutionized the game vertically is more of a contrarian pick. Position by position many will argue Barry over Emmitt but Barry retired out of choice not his ability declining.
Baseball? Willie Mays? But he owned a bunch of records when he retired and was perhaps the best all around offensive player of all time.
Torrential
LWO
@Mister Terrific Tokyo drifted from my Durant point and immediately started the ad hominem which means he lost the argument . I successfully argued why Kobe is either goat or only second to MJ . It’s okay to criticize Durant rings and say nobody cares about them but for daddy lebronze “it’s not the same 
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Now you wanna strawman by trying to deflect to who is the greatest laker . Make the thread coward . Don’t derail mine
Keep spamming shytty insta graphics . I can repeat myself too Kobe beat the Orlando magic with jameer Nelson . LeBron couldn’t beat them without jameer Nelson. And Kobe won finals mvp. Kobs the better player.
Now that’s been established we can get into how lame you are . You ran away from American black women to Japan because black women wouldn’t give you the time of day . Nerdy fakkit
One of those victim passport bros .
“bLaCk gIrLs dOnT LiEk mE
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So in essence you’re just like your hero. Instead of working on yourself like a real man you run away from your problems because you think the grass is greener . Real men stay out figure it out and win . fukking c00n
and immediately started the ad hominem which means he lost the argument . I successfully argued why Kobe is either goat or only second to MJ . It’s okay to criticize Durant rings and say nobody cares about them but for daddy lebronze “it’s not the same “.Now you wanna strawman by trying to deflect to who is the greatest laker . Make the thread coward . Don’t derail mine
Keep spamming shytty insta graphics . I can repeat myself too
Kobe beat the Orlando magic with jameer Nelson . LeBron couldn’t beat them without jameer Nelson. And Kobe won finals mvp. Kobs the better player. Now that’s been established we can get into how lame you are . You ran away from American black women to Japan because black women wouldn’t give you the time of day . Nerdy fakkit
One of those victim passport bros .
“bLaCk gIrLs dOnT LiEk mE
“So in essence you’re just like your hero. Instead of working on yourself like a real man you run away from your problems because you think the grass is greener . Real men stay out figure it out and win . fukking c00n
Oh really
Coming from the retard who is struggling to interpret basic statistics. At least you know you're out of your depth.