Kobe drops 35 pts... Why are you retiring beloved?

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Yeah but you can't assume that Jordan would have had season-ending injuries if he played those years.

So...

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We aren't assuming anything, we're taking two bodies of work and comparing them. He said that Jordan was still effective when he was playing at 39 and commenting on how Kobe really isn't.

You have to talk about all of his injuries and shyt, and comment on the fact that Jordan didn't have to deal with it, it's just part of the conversation.
 

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We aren't assuming anything, we're taking two bodies of work and comparing them. He said that Jordan was still effective when he was playing at 39 and commenting on how Kobe really isn't.

You have to talk about all of his injuries and shyt, and comment on the fact that Jordan didn't have to deal with it, it's just part of the conversation.
Yeah but the implication is that if Jordan had those minutes...he would have had a major injury or wouldn't have been as effective.
And you (not you personally) can't insinuate that. You just can't.

Kobe and Jordan are separated by something like 7,000 minutes...roughly 2 seasons' worth of minutes.

It's true that Kobe has played a lot of minutes.
But we don't get to celebrate that level of durability...and then blame that durability for when injuries take foot.
Can't have it both ways. It's just a part of the game.

I mean Gary Payton and Kobe are separated by 1432 minutes (slightly more after today's game).
They're essentially even. Yet nobody talks about the effect of all those minutes on Payton's career.
 

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Yeah but the implication is that if Jordan had those minutes...he would have had a major injury or wouldn't have been as effective.
And you (not you personally) can't insinuate that. You just can't.

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Where am I implicating or insisting any of those things?

All I'm saying is that at 39 Jordan was still effective because he took two retirements off from basketball and IMO that's why he was still a force in Washington. Not talking about possible injury or anything just simply commenting on why he was still able to compete at a higher level that Kobe when Jordan was 39
 

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Gonna have to follow him on hardwood classics like us Jordan stans. Welcome to the club :damn::mjcry:

I'm gonna rely on my coli fam through these hard times. Folks outside this forum don't understand. I damn near grew up with Bean. First watched him in 98 all star game and i've been a stan since. It's 2016....that's 18 years. At least you Jordan stans had Kobe right after to get your MJ fix....who do I have? Harden? Klay Thompson?
 

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Where am I implicating or insisting any of those things?

All I'm saying is that at 39 Jordan was still effective because he took two retirements off from basketball and IMO that's why he was still a force in Washington. Not talking about possible injury or anything just simply commenting on why he was still able to compete at a higher level that Kobe when Jordan was 39
Fair enough.
Is it your belief that Jordan wouldn't have been as effective...or that he would have been injured if he never retired?
 
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