Kobe Stans must be sick with this NBA Finals matchup

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Lebron made Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison look like all-stars. Even now, players are shooting sky-high FG% because Lebron draws the most attention and is a great passer.

bosh avg 24ppg before teamin up with bron

wade WON THE SCORING TITLE the year before bron went to the heat..

shall we check the stats

since they moved to mia?
 

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bosh avg 24ppg before teamin up with bron

wade WON THE SCORING TITLE the year before bron went to the heat..

shall we check the stats

since they moved to mia?

Wade's been injured and is out of his prime, Bosh is now the third option on a team plus rarely gets plays called for him while his main benefit is that he provides top-tier spacing. Your USG rate suffers when you're playing third option.

Wade is pretty much a super diet Lebron because their strengths are fairly similar. Slashing, collapsing the defense, and finishing around the rim. The difference is that Lebron is a GOAT-tier finisher that seems built out of titanium and Wade is only elite but he's held together with ducktape and bubblegum.

It's like if you put Monta Ellis and Prime Kobe Bryant on the same team or Melo and Kobe. Who you calling your plays for and is getting the ball more.

Less attempts and plays called means your numbers tend to suffer. Same reason KG's numbers took a dip when he went from Minny to the Celtics. Harden's numbers exploded when he got to stop sharing the ball with Westbrook and Durant.

Bosh and Wade's efficiency are getting higher and better now because they get better overall looks due to Lebron's presence on the floor.

you always troll but I'm trying to have an actual basketball discussion with you. Lemme know if I'm wasting my time.
 

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bosh avg 24ppg before teamin up with bron

wade WON THE SCORING TITLE the year before bron went to the heat..

shall we check the stats

since they moved to mia?
So you want to argue that LeBron has turned his teammates into trash? :sas1:
 

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Lol.

Lebron is a great player but he choked in 2 finals (not even counting the 2007 one)... So, arguably 3


Kobe choked in game 7 of ONE finals (with the biggest rivlary in sports history on the line)...


I mean, I think even mj woulda got butterflies in that situation... But they STILL WON....


Why did Bron choke vs the spurs in game 6 and several other games?


Was the "big bad spurs heat rivalry from the 60s and 80s" weighing on his heart?


Bron has choked in 7 to 10 finals games


Kobe one


Bron got bailed out from elimination by one ray allen shot....

Ray misses the shot, Bron is the biggest clown in league history.


shyt is sad how mofos don't even look at the real facts....


Yet, when Kobe wins 3 titles, it was all Shaw...

Bron gets bailed on in a series everyone living knows HE SHOULD HAVE LOST, and its swept under the rug....


Maybe history will paint the picture correctly down the line
 

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Lol.

Lebron is a great player but he choked in 2 finals (not even counting the 2007 one)... So, arguably 3


Kobe choked in game 7 of ONE finals (with the biggest rivlary in sports history on the line)...


I mean, I think even mj woulda got butterflies in that situation... But they STILL WON....


Why did Bron choke vs the spurs in game 6 and several other games?


Was the "big bad spurs heat rivalry from the 60s and 80s" weighing on his heart?


Bron has choked in 7 to 10 finals games


Kobe one


Bron got bailed out from elimination by one ray allen shot....

Ray misses the shot, Bron is the biggest clown in league history.


shyt is sad how mofos don't even look at the real facts....


Yet, when Kobe wins 3 titles, it was all Shaw...

Bron gets bailed on in a series everyone living knows HE SHOULD HAVE LOST, and its swept under the rug....


Maybe history will paint the picture correctly down the line

Act like Lebron didn't start the 4th Q By outzcoring the Spurs squad and getting all the momentum on Miami's side, hit a clutch 3 to bring it to a 2 point lead, and proceed to go off in game 7.
 
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Kobe stans are in a state of psychosis. The damn Clippers just sold for 2 Billion! NBA thrives with or without him...Funny thing is yall always talk about how the early 2000s are the NBA dark years but Kobe was in his prime.

Real superstars aint out there disowning his parents and forcing sexual acts on subpar white women.

#kneeltotheking


its amazing that kobe hasn't really played a game in over 14 months and he's still the first thing on ya minds.

just goes to show how much of a gawd he is. I'll just put it to you this way. When Kobe was dominating and winning rings, Duncan and LeBron were not on our minds. Jordan was. Just shows that ya'll still look at kobe as the barometer for excellence.
 
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I love how we the subject of attention and it's a Finals rematch coming up. nikkaz wasn't talkin bout lebron or the cavs in 2010 during the Biggest Movie Ever cuz they was too busy tryna hate on Kobe, it don't matter what season or circumstance yall gon hate and we gon hate yall for it. :yes:

like I said. Kobe is the barometer for every NBA player post-Jordan. When Lakers were winning in 09 and 10, no one was talking about Duncan or LeBron from our team. The only player that mighta been mentioned was Jordan. And thats cause he's the barometer for every player post-98.

all these nikkas proving by having Kobe in their mouths eventhough he ain't played a game in 14 months is that he's the guy they measure themselves up against.
 
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Better numbers across the entire playoffs or are you using a particular series's? Because Lebron last year out up 4 less PPG on higher efficiency, averaged more rebounds, assists, and less turnovers on less MPG than Kobe's best year as a second option.

I mean, that was Kobe's best year as far as playoff stats go, if you compare them as first options, Lebron still did better so...

And you don't even wanna try to compare it Lebron's stats on his first ring.

:comeon: stop trying to act like those margins were substantial. other than Kobe scored 3.5 more PPG, all the other stats were essentially the same. Averaged the same assists (in the triangle with less shooters and more emphasis on post-play), averaged one less RPG (as a 2-guard vs. 6'9" SF playing PF most of the time).

Kobe: 29.4 PPG (on 47 FG%), 7.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.8 BPG
LeBron: 25.9 PPG (on 49 FG%), 8.4 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.8 BPG


what I see is the same numbers across the board with Kobe having the only real "significant" advantage by putting up 3.5 more PPG.
 

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:comeon: stop trying to act like those margins were substantial. other than Kobe scored 3.5 more PPG, all the other stats were essentially the same. Averaged the same assists (in the triangle with less shooters and more emphasis on post-play), averaged one less RPG (as a 2-guard vs. 6'9" SF playing PF most of the time).

Kobe: 29.4 PPG (on 47 FG%), 7.3 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.8 BPG
LeBron: 25.9 PPG (on 49 FG%), 8.4 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.8 BPG


what I see is the same numbers across the board with Kobe having the only real "significant" advantage by putting up 3.5 more PPG.

Marginal but all in Lebron's favor plus 3.5 less points on less attempts and also less turnovers despite averaging more assists.

Lebron had better overall numbers and Kobe scored more points.

And that's Kobe's best playoff performance. He put up worst numbers as a number one option. Lebron's first ring, he DESTROYS Kobe's best playoff performance
 

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@Bilz all shyt talking aside, you are smarter than this and reading too far into it. You know on it's face that there is nothing wrong with what I said, and it's only if you tried to take a lame like Swagnificent's posts and conflate them with mine would anything I said be wrong. Every fanbase has it's THUGLIFEs that we laugh at but you should be able to differentiate between that and someone normal, who just regards that dude as jokes but is stating an honest opinion. The funny thing is, my post doesn't even implicate you. I said "nikkas I never heard of." Cats are using this lame angle the same way people use #inherently who aren't really about shyt. The point of post was that people are acting like I said Kobe being missing, just like Rose being missing, didn't have a major negative impact on a lot of games...that's just nonsense. But worse, it's corny nikkas running that shyt into the ground. Like you'd expect Yung Yogurt to make suspect ass jokes, but if you get 40 yung yogurts you're like :beli:. That's really the gist of my post, and I don't see what's controversial about it.
 
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Marginal but all in Lebron's favor plus 3.5 less points on less attempts and also less turnovers despite averaging more assists.

Lebron had better overall numbers and Kobe scored more points.

And that's Kobe's best playoff performance. He put up worst numbers as a number one option. Lebron's first ring, he DESTROYS Kobe's best playoff performance

no. that was his best next to Shaq. Kobe averaged 30/6/6 in 08/09/10 in route to 3 consecutive finals appearances.

Kobe 08-10: 29.8 PPG (56.9 TS%), 5.7 RPG, 5.5 APG

LeBron 11-13: 26.7 PPG (57.5 TS%), 8.9 RPG, 6.0 APG

efficiency similar, assists similar, only big differences being Kobe scored more and LeBron rebounded more. the per 36 mins are even closer because LeBron played about 2 mpg more (5.1 assists per 36 mins for LeBron vs. 5.0 assists per 36 mins for Kobe). add to the fact Kobe did that at end of his prime, battling constant knee injuries, and against more 50+ wins teams in the brutal eastern conference.
 

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This almost Kobe free season has been a blessing. The only problem I have with him being out is the fact that he couldn't be miserable on a floundering team headed in the wrong direction. I hope his contract becomes an albatross (already is really) and I can't wait to watch him try (and fail) to shoot that garbage roster into the playoffs.

:blessed:
 
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