Kobe vs Shaq: The Only Numbers that matter

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These are the only stats that matter

Kobe without Shaq: MVP, 3 straight finals, back 2 back chips

Shaq without Kobe: Carried by Wade and refs to a ring*
 

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These are the only stats that matter

Kobe without Shaq: MVP, 3 straight finals, back 2 back chips

Shaq without Kobe: Carried by Wade and refs to a ring*
So you're comparing Kobe from 25-31 years old to Shaq at 34 and older? You don't think it's even a little disingenuous or lazy to try that angle? Shaq from 25 to 31? An MVP award, 3 titles, 3 finals MVP awards in a row. On that note, let's look at both of them at 34. At that age, Shaq was celebrating a title. Kobe at 34? Well, look at my avi :ahh:


Edit: you're gonna complain about the 2006 ring but not the refs in game 7 against the Blazers in 2000 or game 6 against the Kings in 2002? :camby:
 
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POST FINALS STATS BUT DISREGARD PLAYOFF STATS BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT KOBE WAS BETTER IN THE SUPERIOR WESTERN CONFERENCE POSTSEASON BRODIES

COMPARE THE FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE OF A SHOOTING GUARD TO THAT OF A CENTER BRODIES

KILL YASELF BRODIES

I thought y'all said that Lebron's overall playoff stats don't matter because finals is the most important barometer since it's the biggest stage.
 

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I thought y'all said that Lebron's overall playoff stats don't matter because finals is the most important barometer since it's the biggest stage.
Not to mention he's outright implying that shooting efficiency doesn't matter, clearly because Shaq was hitting anywhere from 10-15% better from the field
 

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Not to mention he's outright implying that shooting efficiency doesn't matter, clearly because Shaq was hitting anywhere from 10-15% better from the field


YOU ARE AS DUMB AS THEY COME .. COMPARING A SHOOTING PERCENTAGE OF A CENTERS TO THAT OF A SG IS MORONIC. BUT U WOULDNT GET THAT BECAUSE ITS TOO MUCH FOR YOUR BRAIN TO HANDLE.
 

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YOU ARE AS DUMB AS THEY COME .. COMPARING A SHOOTING PERCENTAGE OF A CENTERS TO THAT OF A SG IS MORONIC. BUT U WOULDNT GET THAT BECAUSE ITS TOO MUCH FOR YOUR BRAIN TO HANDLE.
You're completely disregarding the importance of taking good shots and putting the ball in the hands of a more efficient player and you're the one talking about someone else being dense?
 

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You're completely disregarding the importance of taking good shots and putting the ball in the hands of a more efficient player and you're the one talking about someone else being dense?

DEANDRE JORDAN SHOOTS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN LEBRON EVER DID.....ARE U SERIOUSLY THIS SLOW? THE LESS RANGE U HAVE, THE HIGHER YOUR PERCENTAGE WILL BE.

AGAIN, SMFH @ COMPARING THE SHOOTING PERCENTAGE OF SOMEONE WHO DOESNT SHOOT THE BALL PAST 5 FEET TO SOMEONE WHO REGULARLY TOOK 30 FOOTERS

U DONT BELONG HERE
 

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DEANDRE JORDAN SHOOTS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN LEBRON EVER DID.....ARE U SERIOUSLY THIS SLOW? THE LESS RANGE U HAVE, THE HIGHER YOUR PERCENTAGE WILL BE.

AGAIN, SMFH @ COMPARING THE SHOOTING PERCENTAGE OF SOMEONE WHO DOESNT SHOOT THE BALL PAST 5 FEET TO SOMEONE WHO REGULARLY TOOK 30 FOOTERS

U DONT BELONG HERE
You're comparing Shaq to deandre Jordan and have been arguing in multiple threads why Kobe is allegedly better than Jordan. Yeah you've got the #WPOY2016 about wrapped up.
 

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You're comparing Shaq to deandre Jordan and have been arguing in multiple threads why Kobe is allegedly better than Jordan. Yeah you've got the #WPOY2016 about wrapped up.


HOLY SHIIT, YOU ARE DUMBER THAN I THOUGHT POSSIBLE


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DEANDRE JORDAN SHOOTS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THAN LEBRON EVER DID.....ARE U SERIOUSLY THIS SLOW? THE LESS RANGE U HAVE, THE HIGHER YOUR PERCENTAGE WILL BE.

AGAIN, SMFH @ COMPARING THE SHOOTING PERCENTAGE OF SOMEONE WHO DOESNT SHOOT THE BALL PAST 5 FEET TO SOMEONE WHO REGULARLY TOOK 30 FOOTERS

U DONT BELONG HERE
Deandre gets his shots off put backs and lobs, it's stupid to include him in a discussion about FG% because you can't just pass to him and have a 70% chance of him scoring.
Shaq and Kobe were getting similar shot attempts and they were both creating their own shots. Yes, Shaq had an unfair advantage because he was enormous and took most of his shots from closer to the basket but he could get those shots whenever he wanted, making him a better scoring option than Kobe.
 

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Deandre gets his shots off put backs and lobs, it's stupid to include him in a discussion about FG% because you can't just pass to him and have a 70% chance of him scoring.
Shaq and Kobe were getting similar shot attempts and they were both creating their own shots. Yes, Shaq had an unfair advantage because he was enormous and took most of his shots from closer to the basket but he could get those shots whenever he wanted, making him a better scoring option than Kobe.


SO SHAQ SHOT A BETTER FG% THAN MJ..........POINT REMAINS NUMBNUTS. YALL STILL DUMB AF FOR COMPARING FG% BETWEEN A GUARD AND A CENTER
 

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SO SHAQ SHOT A BETTER FG% THAN MJ..........POINT REMAINS NUMBNUTS. YALL STILL DUMB AF FOR COMPARING FG% BETWEEN A GUARD AND A CENTER
Since you claim to be such a basketball historian, surely you know that it is advantageous to be bigger and taller than the competition in basketball. You know there was a reason why people initially doubted Jordan because before him, teams never won without a dominant big man in the paint. Over the long run, taking lots of shots close to the basket has been more efficient than taking a lot of shots from outside.

If you can give Shaq 20 shots close to the basket and he can make 12, or you can give Kobe 20 shots from all over the floor and he can make 8 or 9, it's simple science Brodie. Shaq is clearly the better option. That's why teams chose to limit Shaq's paint touches as much as possible and roll the dice with Kobe's chucking.
 
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