Ladies: What is the answer to this question re. Men with thug energy vs regular/simp men.

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If men grow up watching men who have thug energy scooping up all manner of women, while men who approach with genuine curiosity, honesty and desire for a relationship/commitment or who put the woman's happiness above his own seem to get nowhere with women, what does this say about women and their choices and how they wish to be treated? :lupe: .

What are men who watch the news and see stories about monsters like the columbine killers having female fans or convicted rapists and murderers getting letters in the mail from women while they can't even get a text back supposed to think?

What conclusion are men supposed to reach? :jbhmm:

What is the response to the 'nice guys finish last' narrative when men see it with their own eyes?:jbhmm:

Genuinely curious, not trolling because I want to see the other side of the coin, I want to understand how women process their choices in men. I see lots of articles/video essays/tweets by women complaining about misogyny, but I don't see articles from women explaining why some can hold a view that misogyny is bad whilst their dating history shows a lineup of misogynists? Does it make sense to admonish men for emulating bad behavior that is rewarded by the opposite sex? :jbhmm:

Or is it really more an expression of offense that men aren't emulating thug energy successfully enough, and it's the crude imitation that is more disgusting than the actual behavior itself:ohhh:

I'ma let this thread marinate or flop, but it's something I was finna get off my chest before I go out tonight for a lil bit:yeshrug:
 

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That's a lot of words my nikka.


I got a ?n for you; why give a single, teeny tiny, flying fukk what a hoe thinks about anything????

You nikkas be on here so worried about what a hoe thinks when that shyt is super irrelevant.

After countless hoes and a decade plus of marriage, I can say with impunity, the moment you give a damn what they think is the moment you lost. These threads is sad but maybe you are all hella young idk.
 

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That's a lot of words my nikka.


I got a ?n for you; why give a single, teeny tiny, flying fukk what a hoe thinks about anything????

You nikkas be on here so worried about what a hoe thinks when that shyt is super irrelevant.

After countless hoes and a decade plus of marriage, I can say with impunity, the moment you give a damn what they think is the moment you lost. These threads is sad but maybe you are all hella young idk.
But the thing that confirmed your views was years of experience. There are a lot of young men on this board and a lot of them get drawn to messages that harm them when it comes to dating. Even then those were your experiences specifically. Other cats might come in here and disagree with you and explain that it was only when they started to care what others thought, they became seen as good people instead of selfish.

I think some women will be mad on the board, but the question is still really important to answer if it's going to lead men away from frustration and anger towards women. The closest thing I have for advice for young men who ask about "why do they always go after the guy that's a bully or has an attitude?" is

"because they make the mistake a tragic mistake. They see someone who plays by their own rules and does what he wants when he wants, with whom and however he wants to, but thinks he will play by the rules if he agrees to commit. The thing that attracts them initially to men like that is the thing that ultimately pushes the woman away. He starts to play by his own rules in the relationship, and doing whatever with whomever whenever. The woman eventually feels heartbroken because she thought she was special to him and he wouldn't treat her the way he treats others. Women who choose men like that are unhappy, and the men in those relationships aren't happy either"
 
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