Lamar Revenge Tour upcoming...

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I fully believe he's going to have a career season.

But is Mark Andrews (white boy?) still on the team? He dropping passes left and right last year. They would've won the game of he didn't drop in the red zone. Twice if I remember correctly.
 

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I fully believe he's going to have a career season.

But is Mark Andrews (white boy?) still on the team? He dropping passes left and right last year. They would've won the game of he didn't drop in the red zone. Twice if I remember correctly.
His fumble on the unnecessary run was worse than the drop tbh



His dumbass had no business juking back toward the defense behind him, in the middle of the field during snow game, when he already has the first and isn’t a RAC TE. fukking sold.

Then the drop was just the cherry on top
 

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Manning and the Colts winning was more about the team getting over the hump. Not Manning taking it to another level in the playoffs or exacting revenge.

Lamar is already good enough to contribute to a SB, but it's not an individual accomplishment.
 
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Greatest QB ever :jbhmm:

Man sit yo dumb azz down :martin:
"He has the potential ceiling for greatest quarterback of all time"....

Peyton Manning had that ceiling throughout his career, his own misfires played one of the biggest role in him not finishing his career with that recognition. Brady was the other big factor in that, but Mannung was far and away a better player than Brady until '07. Brady's ascension in play narrowed that gap from around '07 thru '11. Manning came back off injury in '12 and his '12 and '13 seasons were iconic, raising the bar seasons, if he beats Seattle in '13, the title count with he and Brady is 3-2, and he gets renowned as the greatest QB ever.

Thats how close Manning was to that designation. The 2012-15 Seahawks are the greatest defense in NFL history, and the fact Brady beat them a year after Manning was emasculated by the same defense, forever altered the perception about how they compared as quarterbacks. Manning's 2013 season is quite likely the greatest QB season ever, and if he caps that off by beating the greatest defense ever, its all he needed to be called the GOAT. 2 rings, 5 MVPs, multiple records and league leading seasons.

He didn't end on that note but for most of his career the ceiling for him wasn't "one of the best ever"....it was to finish his career as THE greatest ever.

Now consider how this career arc parallels Lamar:

Lamar is of the same generation as Patrick Mahomes, who kicked the door down early and had the kind of success that had people calling him the greatest of all time. The gap between Mahomes and his peers from 2018 thru 2022, was insane.

Within that 5-year run, Lamar Jackson became the youngest MVP ever...

The last two seasons have shown a decline towards the pack for Mahomes. He obviously hasn't just fallen off a cliff, and he continues to accentuate the resume of his first 5 years, with more winning---->he's Brady of his era.

Yet in the last two years, Lamar has hit a gear pretty much nobody saw him being able to. He was better last year than in his '23 MVP year---->and he was better in his '23 MVP year than in his '19 MVP year. In both years, regular season, he was the best player in the NFL. This is two straight years of raising the bar to a historic level, its not a stretch to say he's on a historic run, but you have to actually be watching him play to recognize this, rather than simply box score watching.

The only player of this generation who has had a season on the level of Lamar's last two, is Mahomes, who has also had multiple historic years. That's it. That's the list.

We are watching a QB play at a historically great level, only entering his 8th year. Yes, the ceiling has now reached "greatest of all time" potential. His game is so unique compared to any other GOAT, and yet clearly just as dominant, and he keeps raising the bar for what we think he is. He wins a championship, its instant Top 10 status. After that? Bruh if he wins more MVPs and more than one championship, he's speeding thru that Top 10 list with ease.

So my point stands. Lamar has greatest of all time potential, but like Manning, he can stand in his own way and kill that.
NFL been around too long for that to be true....Hell, Jim Kelly would be taken over Lamar All-Time at this point.

Lamar probably 25th on an All-Time list at best as of today. If Randall Cunningham didn't come up 2nd twice in MVP voting and won those it would be hard for most to say Lamar is better than Randall Cunningham....
Nah you bullshytting, 25 is cowbell than a mf for Lamar. Jim Kelly is an All-Timer but his peak wasn't this. And losing 4 consecutive Super Bowls doesn't make him any different than Lamar never having been to one. I mean, he had 4 chances. In a row. The consensus is probably taking Lamar over Kelly at this point.

I'm a Cunningham fan but he wasn't this.
Manning and the Colts winning was more about the team getting over the hump. Not Manning taking it to another level in the playoffs or exacting revenge.

Lamar is already good enough to contribute to a SB, but it's not an individual accomplishment.
If you're a head coach or quarterback its both a team award and an individual accomplishment, not so much for other positions. I don't know why yall do this shyt every year 😂

The Colts winning in '06 was viewed as a coronation for Manning individually as well.
 

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Revenge of what?
What's there to avenger?

In order to win a SB,
Need to get to the SB

In order to get to the SB
Need to 3 or 4 games in a row during the playoffs

In order to get to the playoffs
Need to win the division or earn either 5/6/7th seed

That's it...Team accomplishments throughout the duration of the regular season, playoffs, and SB
 

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If you're a head coach or quarterback its both a team award and an individual accomplishment, not so much for other positions. I don't know why yall do this shyt every year 😂

The Colts winning in '06 was viewed as a coronation for Manning individually as well.

By who? I've heard plenty of people downplay that ring and say the defense won it. Same with his second ring.


I don't know why you guys do this every year, SB has never been an individual award.
 
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Broncos winning the AFC West, they not getting thru the AFC yet though.

🤣 fair enough.
:mjlol:Naw. They barely made the playoffs and that's only because they beat us twice. Look into the history, last season was the first time the Broncos beat the Raiders since we moved. This year will be back to normal so those extra wins the Broncos had won't be there this year.
 

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He's like 6-1 vs Burrow:mjlol:

The Ravens are the clear best team in that division.

:comeon: :dahell: that doesn't even remotely come close to being accurate. 6-1 and yet Cincinnati has beaten them 4 times since 2020 (one being the wild card game) :mjlol:

Baltimore STILL will lose one or two games they have no business losing; they ALWAYS split with Pittsburgh -- if they're the better team why are they splitting the series with them? I'm not going to even touch the Browns because that's even worse :mjlol::mjlol:
 

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Most all-pros and pro-bowlers but those wideouts were not doing their jobs.

Don't know how Zay could make the pro-bowl even, it felt as if anyone would catch 1000 yards with Lamar last season.


But yea a lot of it is on him too, you are supposed to peak in the playoffs and he tends to peak before. But he should be comfortable enough with it at this point. On some "got nothing to lose". But then again, I still get nervous when I'm presenting shyt for management at work and I do it every week :yeshrug:
 
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:comeon: :dahell: that doesn't even remotely come close to being accurate. 6-1 and yet Cincinnati has beaten them 4 times since 2020 (one being the wild card game) :mjlol:

You slow or something?

Lamar didn't start those games. Huntley was the QB in that wildcard game.

He's 10-1 as a starter in his career vs the Bengals.

Next time use Google so you don't embarrass yourself.

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NFL been around too long for that to be true....Hell, Jim Kelly would be taken over Lamar All-Time at this Point

Lamar probably 25th on an All-Time list at best as of today.
If Randall Cunningham didn't come up 2nd twice in MVP voting and won those it would be hard for most to say Lamar is better than Randall Cunningham....

:why:.

Not a chance. He is EASILY a top 25 QB all-time. His resume is already there. If you want to say he’s not top ten yet due to longevity, I’d listen to an argument, but he is CLEARLY in the 26 and he’s much closer to ten than twenty five.
 
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