LAPD officer gets terminated, turns into comic book villain

[Dr. Fauci]

am I the only one that thinks its stupid that he wrote this manifesto? If this guy is as trained as they say he is, he easily couldve went on this police killing mission more discretely, without putting so much attention on himself

I mean, he eventually wouldve been a suspect...but the whole world wouldnt be looking for him

he couldve posted that manifesto later if he wanted to be a celebrity and get his story out...seems like it wouldve been 100 times easier to not post that out there initially

 

[Turbulent]

Truthfully they have to do it right because the FBI looking over their shoulder.

i hope you,re right but i sincerely doubt it.

from what we know, the FBI is probably only involved in trying to find dude. They don't really care that much about his grievances and complaints. From their point of view that's the LAPD and Dorner's business. They're not trying to allocate even more ressources on keeping an eye over the investigation of Dorner's claims. They're not trying to spend even more money on this. Plus we don't know how their politics work exactly. who knows what deals are being made behind the curtains. So yeah, chances are the LAPD "internal investigation" will be a joke. FBI wants to catch dude, they're not trying to complicate their lives even more unless it's a alley-hoop case...

my sources for this post are: The Wire seasons 2 and 3.

 

[the next guy]

That's a good point. I was wondering why they were making him out to be Jason Bourne. They kept showing the picture of him in his tactical gear/rifle and I had to know.

Your second point doesn't make sense to me. Getting a police department shook isn't a hard thing to do. We had a "real" vigilante in John Allen Muhammed, who actually had the MILITARY TRAINING this guy doesn't. Oh and he shot expert with his rifle. His reign of terror spanned from August 1 - October 24th. Over 4 different states including our Nation's capital.

Makes me think would people be supporting that?

JAM was a fool who indoctrinated his stepson. And sullied the names of many Muslims. This guy is just as bad. Common and scary thing to me breh is WHY do these dudes all have military training? Who is the military letting in these days?

 

[K.O.D]

Fine, he sucks, he hates himself, he's killer and he'll be brought to justice. And he sucks at shooting.

 

[Turbulent]

WHY would the LAPD re-open the case now?
Did the Feds force it?
If it is determine that dorner WAS INDEED RAILROADED, then the laps has opened itself up to more lawsuits on more grounds by more parties.

This "investigation" can only have one result.

--> aq out <--

someone said in an earlier post that it could be a tactic by the LAPD to suppress information. His theory was that closed cases info are available to the public through information access laws but if the case is re-opened then it becomes an ongoing-investigation and they don't have to share info with the media anymore...

 

[the next guy]

i hope you,re right but i sincerely doubt it.

from what we know, the FBI is probably only involved in trying to find dude. They don't really care that much about his grievances and complaints. From their point of view that's the LAPD and Dorner's business. They're not trying to allocate even more ressources on keeping an eye over the investigation of Dorner's claims. They're not trying to spend even more money on this. Plus we don't know how their politics work exactly. who knows what deals are being made behind the curtains. So yeah, chances are the LAPD "internal investigation" will be a joke. FBI wants to catch dude, they're not trying to complicate their lives even more unless it's a alley-hoop case...

my sources for this post are: The Wire seasons 2 and 3.

FBI just got done with federal oversight in mid 2009! Just 3.5 years ago. LAPD is like that kid you can't take your eyes off of

 

[Chris.B]

Fat boy craving those chicken wings

I give him 1 week MAX before he succumbs....

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

JAM was a fool who indoctrinated his stepson. And sullied the names of many Muslims. This guy is just as bad. Common and scary thing to me breh is WHY do these dudes all have military training? Who is the military letting in these days?

This was be fore the PTSD days where you could get benefits and treatment for your problems. Back then it was and move out. Timothy McVeigh was a Combat Engineer(Army) He has a Bronze Star. When he tried out for Special Forces though, they were like because of his psychological profile. The screening process for initial enlistment should probably be higher though. In wartime almost anyone can get in, but there's consequences for that.

The military is huge and there are people from all walks of life. Rich kids, poor kids, foster kids, doctors, lawyers and then you might get some people with affiliations to gangs. Crips, bloods, white supremacists, etc. You hand them weapons and military doctrines and it can be a recipe for disaster.

 

[the next guy]

This was be fore the PTSD days where you could get benefits and treatment for your problems. Back then it was and move out. Especially for Muhammed who was Army Infantry. Timothy McVeigh was a Combat Engineer(Army) He has a Bronze Star. When he tried out for Special Forces though, they were like because of his psychological profile. The screening process for initial enlistment should probably be higher though. In wartime almost anyone can get in, but there's consequences for that.

The military is huge and there are people from all walks of life. Rich kids, poor kids, foster kids, doctors, lawyers and then you might get some people with affiliations to gangs. Crips, bloods, white supremacists, etc. You hand them weapons and military doctrines and it can be a recipe for disaster.

For sure. It looks like the best shot. Look ar Dorner, he was an officer! Commanding men. The Military need to get a hold of this because next time it could be the kids. Imagine if it was a vet who did sandy hook. It would have been 60 plus deaths.

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

For sure. It looks like the best shot. Look ar Dorner, he was an officer! Commanding men. The Military need to get a hold of this because next time it could be the kids. Imagine if it was a vet who did sandy hook. It would have been 60 plus deaths.

If this was anywhere else not involving the LAPD, the military might be in the spotlight. My question is, why didn't he go just Active Duty as an officer. Real talk. As an 0-3 he would have been looking to clear around 68K a year. If the LAPD wasn't what he was looking for, why not just go Active?

 

[the next guy]

If this was anywhere else not involving the LAPD, the military might be in the spotlight. My question is, why didn't he go just Active Duty as an officer. Real talk. As an 0-3 he would have been looking to clear around 68K a year. If the LAPD wasn't what he was looking for, why not just go Active?

Makes sense, I didn't know that...he could have avoided all this. And would the media smear an active duty armed forces member? Of course its the LAPD so the USN will escape this time. There should not be so many skeptical but when your target is thing many, many people despise it's harder to get support.

 

[jaydolf spitler]

am I the only one that thinks its stupid that he wrote this manifesto? If this guy is as trained as they say he is, he easily couldve went on this police killing mission more discretely, without putting so much attention on himself

I mean, he eventually wouldve been a suspect...but the whole world wouldnt be looking for him

he couldve posted that manifesto later if he wanted to be a celebrity and get his story out...seems like it wouldve been 100 times easier to not post that out there initially

His purpose was to expose the corruption of the LAPD and get revenge on those who wronged him. if ur going to do that, it's best to make your intentions known to the public rather than just randomly go about killing cops because then ppl would have no context for your killings and you would just look like another random serial killer unless by some miracle news outlets did research and brought to light the actual motives

He also stated that he has accepted death and has no fear of it and expects to be killed ultimately. His ultimate victory is more of an ethically related one that he intended to be affecting of the people in general after he goes, not an actual victory where he ends up surviving somehow

 

[O.G.B]

If this was anywhere else not involving the LAPD, the military might be in the spotlight. My question is, why didn't he go just Active Duty as an officer. Real talk. As an 0-3 he would have been looking to clear around 68K a year. If the LAPD wasn't what he was looking for, why not just go Active?

I had similar thoughts and was somewhat perplexed why Dorner would leave the Navy as a Lieutenant to become a police officer, but everyone isn't motivated by money or material possessions and it seems originally his goal was to serve his country and fellow person with his Military/Law Enforcement careers.

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

Makes sense, I didn't know that...he could have avoided all this. And would the media smear an active duty armed forces member?

Hell yeh they would. Usually there are red flags(hindsight 20/20). Timothy McVeigh was reprimanded a couple of times for his white supremacists views. Nothing on John Allen Muhammad but I'm positive his leadership saw behavior as well.

Charles Whitman, University of Texas sniper, 1966 killed 14 and wounded 32. Former Marine. Shot sharpshooter. Before he did all that four years prior he made weirdo comments about being able to do exactly what he did. It's all there man.

If 2-3 people are saying you are a weirdo, maybe you are. I'm being real. When people are constantly stating you are crazy and paranoid and then you go and shoot people. , you just might be. We all know or have seen someone who just wasn't right and then you find out they are locked up or their lives are in shambles and you think, "that's about right" because of their previous behavior.

 

[malbaker86]

1. There's no proof he killed those 3 people. I'm about 90% he did tho.

2. Maybe his manifesto was to just open the eyes of the LAPD, law enforcement, & the public. Throw some names as targets on there although he probably has no intentions in killing anybody.

3. My thinking is that he wants his"back". A man is nothing w/o his name like he said and thats the truth. When its all said and done, he wants justice against the wrong that was the way he was fired and the circumstances around it.

I hope he doesnt kill anybody, even the ones who wronged him, and the truth is exposed to the point where his manifesto is justified in the end