My shyt never frozeu know what im talkin bout, if your shyt freeze and u cant hit the button u have to unplug the shyt,
guess what happens next all your data gon
i have seen many people on this site say he happened to them also

I thought you were saying you flat out can't manually power down. I get what you're saying now. The power down is a function of the software and not the hardware, so if you freeze the button doesn't work.
I've had mine go into rest mode on it's own but never freeze completely.
You sure you couldn't force power off with the 10 second button press?
u know what im talkin bout, if your shyt freeze and u cant hit the button u have to unplug the shyt,
guess what happens next all your data gon
why does sony still have that trash in place where u cant turn off the console manually? with the xbox i press the light and the console goes off fine, with ps4 if turn it off manually i risk deleting the all my saved files,

nikka, get out your feelings and stop being so emotional for a minute. I don't contribute to that console war mess so miss me with that shyt.