Latina says immigrants don’t really love America they are just here for the money.

[#BOTHSIDES]

Does any one really 'love' America like that. Considering the history of us in America this isn't really a stretch.

And look at Mexico… if they not in the cartel the ones with wealth are mostly white Mexicans from Spain. Even most of their presidents are not indigenous/mestizo Mexicans. They’re the white European

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

My pops and siblings all have 250-500k houses in Belize right now. All retired with pensions.

My mom built a Mennonite house this year and put it on her land. She just moved there last month.

Many Americans work until they die. Immigrants work to retire and live free.

I’d argue most don’t leave… that’s why there’s so many here.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Lotta Mexicans mad Americans goin to and setting up shop in Mexico City and creating their own little areas in the city culturally and economically. Ironic ain't it. Pot meet kettle

They got money he who has the gold makes the rules

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

You new nikkaz are so weird. This whole black patriotic movement is new and it’s more than likely rooted in the whole FBA anti immigrant online movement.

Everything I know through my 38 years in this country tells me most black Americans are at best, ambivalent about this country.

You nikkas didn’t start becoming patriotic until Tariq Nasheed told y’all to hate Af

Interesting.

What country do think blk ppl can be prideful or patriotic about? Brazil? Colombia? Venezuela? Haiti? Jamaica? South Africa? Nigeria? From my observation… ppl become patriotic about their countries once they leave (but don’t wanna return )

I’m visiting France now and I’m surrounded by North Africans, west Africans and ppl from Comoros island… they have no plans of returning live in their homelands most don’t even want to visit

 

[Unbothered]

Immigrants come to America to live a better life in terms of education and financial services.

That's common knowledge, always has been .

I care less about whether they love America or not, truth be told, despite dudes in this thread trying to make their case, the average Black American doesn't love America either, it doesn't mean we hate it, we just tolerate it. Racism, bigotry, injustices, and systematic and financial discrepancies, among other things all play a role in this sentiment.

Love is a strong word, I don't believe most of us have an idea of what that truly means beyond the surface of its definition.

Two different perspectives, a white person can confidently say to themselves that they “love” America because they've been benefiting and enjoying the fruits of it since its inception, compared to Black people, who have only truly been enjoying life in this country for the past 60+ years and even then there's an argument to be made that life for the average Black American still isn't great because of the aforementioned reasonings.

The only types of Black folks that might “love” America are usually ones embedded or have roots within the fields of military, law enforcement, staunch conservatism, or hang around a lot of white people, etc. Usually, these types are c00nish, or tiptoe the line at the very least.

The difference between Black Americans and White people is that cacs support blind patriotism, whereas Black people have our limits and understanding that one can acknowledge injustices, systematic racism, unfair treatment, etc, and other unjust issues that affect the lives of people, and that it doesn't equate to hating your homeland.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

I remember a couple Liberians told me that. One said they came here to escpae war. The other said they came hear to amass wealth and then go back f] - vFD

Did they go back?

 

[Tair]

where are you from?

vvv

You got a hairier stomach than me
I'm indian btw

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Africa has way more wealth in the ground than the U.S. and they are finally figuring that out. They just have to keep Europeans from coming and trying to steal it. Along with the Chinese.

lol that’s so unlikely. Let’s be real.

Too much selfishness… “leaders” would rather steal and put their money and gold in European banks

 

[Robbie3000]

@Robbie3000 Been upset about lineage based movements among us before fba or ados was created.

The cats that be running interference in these threads were doing it, when we started our own lineage movement here in the coli

Again which PREDATES TARIQ and fba/ados

Nope.

I remember the exact moment when a lot of you all of a sudden became patriotic. It’s when yall started hating on black immigrants. I even distinctly remember when you started rocking the American flag in your profile pics.

Before that, I ain’t never seen displays of patriotism on a a hip hop board. Ever.

That’s why I’m calling bullshyt on your so called claims of patriotism. It’s not rooted in any kind of black experience or conscious movement. It’s rooted in hate group movements (FBA ADOS) disguised as reparations movements. Y’all went running to the arms of Uncle Sam to spite black immigrants. It’s really pathetic.

 

[Mister Terrific]

58% of Black folk are patriotic or somewhat patriotic

21% not very patriotic or not patriotic at all

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/v8g4whh85z/crosstabs_Americans%20Views%20on%20Patriotism.pdf

Immigrants come to America to live a better life in terms of education and financial services.

That's common knowledge, always has been .

I care less about whether they love America or not, truth be told, despite dudes in this thread trying to make their case, the average Black American doesn't love America either, it doesn't mean we hate it, we just tolerate it. Racism, bigotry, injustices, and systematic and financial discrepancies, among other things all play a role in this sentiment.

Love is a strong word, I don't believe most of us have an idea of what that truly means beyond the surface of its definition.

Two different perspectives, a white person can confidently say to themselves that they “love” America because they've been benefiting and enjoying the fruits of it since its inception, compared to Black people, who have only truly been enjoying life in this country for the past 60+ years and even then there's an argument to be made that life for the average Black American still isn't great because of the aforementioned reasonings.

The only types of Black folks that might “love” America are usually ones embedded or have roots within the fields of military, law enforcement, staunch conservatism, or hang around a lot of white people, etc. Usually, these types are c00nish, or tiptoe the line at the very least.

The difference between Black Americans and White people is that cacs support blind patriotism, whereas Black people have our limits and understanding that one can acknowledge injustices, systematic racism, unfair treatment, etc, and other unjust issues that affect the lives of people, and that it doesn't equate to hating your homeland.

You don’t have to “love” America to be patriotic. You should support the country and its community while also being critical of things that you need to be critical about like foreign policy and discriminatory institutions.

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[coldcall]

So?

 

[Barlow]

Only a self respect lacking, deprecating mule would advocate for leeches to come here and bleed your country and send money back to their shythole while dropping off their disrespectful anchor babies

 

[Unbothered]

58% of Black folks are patriotic or somewhat patriotic

21% not very patriotic or not patriotic at all

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/v8g4whh85z/crosstabs_Americans%20Views%20on%20Patriotism.pdf

You don’t have to “love” America to be patriotic. You should support the country and its community while also being critical of things that you need to be critical about like foreign policy and discriminatory institutions.

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Those are polled statistics.

They don't account for 100% of the Black population as a whole just a segment of people who were polled and shared their views. Polls can be used to push agendas or skew perceptions to lean one way, so I don't take them to heart.

To be patriotic to a country is to love that country and its systemic structure as well as the people within. Most Black people are not patriotic; we just have a tolerance for America, but there is no “love” between the two sides. In other words, for most Black Americans, in regards to the relationship with the US, there's no hate or love, but rather the feeling is just neutral.

You don't need to be patriotic to be aware of politics and support your community, which should be the Black community, not some fake American “community” where everybody is bound together under the guise of being Americans.

There is no community of that sort since Americans don't love each other nor can even tolerate each other due to differences (race, ethnicity, gender, politics, class, etc).

 

[voiture]

Why is she not fighting for what's good in America that brought her here in her country?
Why are these people so arrogant to admit that America shyts on their country by a mile? Doesn't make them less Mexican.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

58% of Black folk are patriotic or somewhat patriotic

21% not very patriotic or not patriotic at all

https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/v8g4whh85z/crosstabs_Americans%20Views%20on%20Patriotism.pdf

You don’t have to “love” America to be patriotic. You should support the country and its community while also being critical of things that you need to be critical about like foreign policy and discriminatory institutions.

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That's a very small sample size