Lavar Ball - NCAA Ain't Going to Tell Me Sh.. Because They're Not My Boss

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LOL breh you kidding me? You know how many kids have been hailed as the "next great thing", especially in the "Ball Is Life" era of the internet? Im not shading Melo I'm just saying there is no guarantee he will remain highly touted. He wouldnt be the first or last or even BEST high school phenom to flame out. All I'm saying is wait and see.



Exceptions to every rule. :yeshrug:Exum came from a NBA father and Australia, quiet as kept, is the next big intl basketball haven. And thats just off what we know worked in Exums favor. Coulda been a lot of behind the scenes scouting that influenced his high draft position.


Yeah we dont know if he'll be the next superstar but you're questioning if he'll get ANY better in the next 2 years...i mean I'm sure he won't stagnate at 16 if he's still working hard. Its not like he can't become a better defender in the next few years or anything.

but u right plenty of HS dudes flame out....looks like Lavar stays on his kids heads though:manny:
 

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The problem is that the NCAA can't really determine whether or not LaMelo is being paid for his shoe or if it's just his father giving him gifts because he's his son. They can prove that his likeness is being used but how he's being compensated for that is where it all falls apart.
Wouldn't the NCAA be able to just declare him ineligible until the Ball family proves that point then? Or do they have that level of power over the players? That sounds more like some Roger Goodell IDGAF what the rules say type shyt
 

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Yeah we dont know if he'll be the next superstar but you're questioning if he'll get ANY better in the next 2 years...i mean I'm sure he won't stagnate at 16 if he's still working hard. Its not like he can't become a better defender in the next few years or anything.

but u right plenty of HS dudes flame out....looks like Lavar stays on his kids heads though:manny:

But if he doesn't go play NCAA, which he probably won't....depending on how that BBB ends up...he's affecting Melo's growth. How will he excel with no one to play against for an entire year? I doubt Lavar would let him go to overseas, so there's that. He'll quickly turn into Lenny Cooke
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Wouldn't the NCAA be able to just declare him ineligible until the Ball family proves that point then? Or do they have that level of power over the players? That sounds more like some Roger Goodell IDGAF what the rules say type shyt



@Box Factory posted this -


"Generally speaking, a college athlete or prospect paid for use of their athletics reputation or ability risks their future eligibility in that sport," NCAA spokesperson Emily James told ESPN's Darren Rovell. "This includes profiting from the sale of items bearing the young person's name. NCAA rules, however, do allow prospects to promote commercial products prior to enrollment, provided it is not for pay."

There's literally no way to prove he was paid for his image, because it's his father and you can't determine what's a gift from his father and what's payment for his likeness. The obvious thing that people will do is to point to the Lambo as payment, but LiAngelo got a Ferrari and he doesn't have a shoe so that throws a wrench in that.
 
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I personally think Lavar just didnt take into account how this would affect Lamelos eligibility. They were probably more concerned with striking while the BBB iron was hot (which is smart).

However this is a questionable decision in the long run, if it voids LaMelos eligibility.

Im all for seeing the NCAA burn just as much as anyone. It is bullshyt that if you plan on being a high profile football/bball star in the States, the NCAA has to skim their cut off of you before you see any money. Its undeniable exploitation and damn near extortion.

With that said, the NCAA still remains the most efficient means a post HS basketball player attains enough national attention for a high draft slot. You don't even have to be on a successful NCAA team to be drafted high lol (look at Ben Simmons and Markelle Futlz).

This isn't to say that they wouldn't have been drafted had they played internationally, but their draft stock surely would have been affected.
Or maybe this is exactly what he wanted to build the Lakers into a Ball lead superteam. He'll have a statue next to Kobe in 20 years
 

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Lamelo is nice but he isn't 1 and done nice at the moment.

I do think Lavar is smart to choose the shoe brand over NCAA eligibility.

A lot of prospects use college to build their brand which Lamelo obviously does not need.

From a basketball perspective, they need to be sure they can find either a good team in the G League or overseas in a good league with good coaching instruction and S&C...just incase the NCAA trips.
 

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Lavar prolly did this on purpose so lamelo would have an excuse to not play college ball

Now he can join NBA as free agent (like I drafted liangelo) and go straight to lakers

Win win move

#bbb no losss accept for when Lavar backed down to his wife's parents
 

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Saw this elsewhere:

the official NCAA spokesperson says this:



But the NCAA regulations say this (which also explains why Romeo was in the clear):

"It’s a valid question, but it’s not necessarily as straightforward a decision as one might think. LaVar Ball insisted the family had looked into CIF regulations before moving forward with the $395 LM1 shoe, confident that the way they are handling the shoe will protect LaMelo’s eligibility.

The case with the NCAA is significantly less straightforward. As noted by our partners at For The Win, LaMelo’s ability to play at UCLA likely comes down to the clauses in NCAA bylaw 12.5.1.2:

12.5.1.2 Modeling and Other Nonathletically Related Promotional Activities.

An individual may accept remuneration for or permit the use of his or her name or picture to advertise or promote the sale or use of a commercial product or service without jeopardizing his or her eligibility to participate in intercollegiate athletics only if all of the following conditions apply: (Revised: 1/14/97, 4/29/04, 1/8/07 effective 8/1/07)

(a) The individual became involved in such activities for reasons independent of athletics ability;

(b) No reference is made in these activities to the individual’s involvement in intercollegiate athletics; (Revised: 1/18/14 effective 8/1/14)

(c) The individual’s remuneration under such circumstances is at a rate commensurate with the individual’s skills and experience as a model or performer and is not based in any way on the individual’s athletics ability or reputation.

12.5.2.1.1 Exceptions. The individual’s eligibility will not be affected, provided the individual: (Revised: 1/18/14 effective 8/1/14)

(a) Meets the conditions set forth in Bylaw 12.5.1.2; or (Revised: 1/18/14 effective 8/1/14)

(b) Takes appropriate steps upon becoming a student-athlete to retract permission for the use of his or her name or picture and ceases receipt of any remuneration for such an arrangement.

It’s not hard to see how LaMelo’s teenage endorsement of his own shoe could violate the tenets of the NCAA bylaws. However, by simply retracting the right of Big Baller Brand to use his name and likeness when he arrives at UCLA, LaMelo might make himself instantly eligible again.

It’s notable that BBB has shied away from using middle brother LiAngelo — now enrolled at UCLA — in absolutely anything in the brand’s roll out thus far. That’s conceivably an attempt to protect his eligibility in Westwood, and similar steps with LaMelo would likely have the same effect.

Then there’s a more nuanced and perhaps complicated defense: LaMelo Ball could justify his endorsements as being derived from his general celebrity status and the family’s subsequent reality television work. While basketball may have been a part of those efforts, there’s no question that LaVar Ball’s brash persona and marketing have had at least as large an impact on the family’s rise as any athletic performance.

If LaMelo Ball is deemed a celebrity independent of basketball, that the NCAA wouldn’t be allowed to penalize him for capitalizing on that fame. It’s a strange, tail-wagging-the-dog technicality, but it could very well work to keep LaMelo eligible when he arrives at UCLA."

Looks like it'll come down to the Committees discretion when the time comes.
 

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But if he doesn't go play NCAA, which he probably won't....depending on how that BBB ends up...he's affecting Melo's growth. How will he excel with no one to play against for an entire year? I doubt Lavar would let him go to overseas, so there's that. He'll quickly turn into Lenny Cooke

Yeah Im suspect on that part....Lavar saying oh i just have to train him for a year or two. IDK about that working out. If anything he can just play in the G-League for a year or two. Join the Lakers G-League squad:manny:
 

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Did Romeo ever sell any products using his image as an athlete? Or was Romeo the child rapper/actor selling those products and services? Big difference from a legal standpoint.

Breh, the point im making is that nobody brought any of this shyt up about Romeo in HS and how it'd affect his eligibility to play college basketball.

When Romeo was in ads for them ugly ass P Miller sneakers you wasn't the fukking NCAA clearinghouse about it breh.
 

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Breh, the point im making is that nobody brought any of this shyt up about Romeo in HS and how it'd affect his eligibility to play college basketball.

When Romeo was in ads for them ugly ass P Miller sneakers you wasn't the fukking NCAA clearinghouse about it breh.

I personally was like 13 when Romeo was modeling P.Millers :mjlol:

However, i see your point. Aside from social media making a story out of anything, part of this is a targeted campaign against the Balls.

But the thing is, they don't get a lot of sympathy from me. :yeshrug:

90% of LaVars schtick is him bucking the rules, saying they're gonna do it "their way" and fukk anyone who thinks they have authority over any areas they step in.

If thats your public persona, don't be surprised if an extreme amount of scrutiny and scheming on you happens when you make a dubious move.

According to LaVar they did their research on this and he won't backdown from it if the NCAA says its wrong. So even if Melo playing in the NCAA is an impossibility, doesnt seem like they care too much anyway.
 
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Disband the NCAA, eliminate athletic scholarships.

If pro ball wants to have developmental leagues, let them pay for them out of the league pocket. Leave universities for scholars, not meatheads killing time until their league requirements are up.
 

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@AVXL you got some splanin to do:usure:

What? You can't have a reasonable discussion about Bullshyt Basketball Business without being labeled a hater, c00n or sambo so fukk it. He's done nothing to change my opinion of him being an idiot, loudmouth who has done more to damage his kids long term than anyone of yall even acknowledge

But fukk it. whatever ill let y'all kick the BS #BBB no losses shyt, im on vacation this week so I'll get back to the bullshyt next wk :pachaha:
 
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