Leaving Neverland HBO Michael Jackson Documentary

[FeverPitch2]

Replace the name "Michael Jackson" and put in the words "Bryan Singer" or "Dan Schneider" and see if your replies are the same defending MJ.

The Coli

Bryan Singer invited a bunch of boys to his house for a sleepover

Dan Schneider has a pool party with his underage cast and hangs around all kids

Michael Jackson invited a bunch of boys over for a sleepover

Do you have any rice to go with these red herrings?

 

[FeverPitch2]

my post from another thread:

It is one of the more egregious, extreme cases of gaslighting in modern pop culture.

For all the discussions on here, with men seeming so confident in their deductive reasoning, about sexuality and infidelity, and "sharing that girl", many are laughably quick to close their eyes to the obvious. If I said, a girl I was seeing met someone, celeb or not, and was sleeping in his bed, going on trips all over the world, and she came back and said "Yeah, but we don't have sex", what would anyone of you tell me? What are anyone of you telling yourselves about what Michael Jackson?

"yeah, he did all that other creepy, predatory behavior, well yeah he held their hands, yeah he groomed children, and spent time in bed with them, yeah, he built Neverland Ranch, essentially an ode to the sexual abuse of children, he talked on the phone for hours to children, yeah., he did all that other DOCUMENTED shyt....but he didn't sexually abuse them". That is people's stance?

Do you realize the sheer irrationality of that statement? It's delusional. No one would make that argument in almost any other situation, ever. and what was the FBI going to find that would change anyone's mind? You have the victims interviewed. You have the photographic, visual, audio evidence of his relationships with children. A VHS tape? These are not financial cases or white collar fraud where there is a paper trial, in the pre digital age.

Your analogy is null and void because you dont present the full situation.
You said some other dumb shyt, but that's neither here nor there.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

If a grown ass man can sleep in the same bed with a child, why don’t people believe he could’ve abused them ?

I couldn’t finish watching it. shyt was disturbing

They slept in different beds.

 

[Bleed The Freak]

Do you have any rice to go with these red herrings?

I'd like for you to specifically refute that's the reply here when it pertains to MJ.

No one on this board let's their own kid go to sleepovers at a grown man's house. The fact that someone would continually put themselves in that postion shows that you're fukked up.

Saying he's the musical GOAT and being a fukking perv are allowed. It can't take away from what he did musically. But the nikka was off.

At one point he's the most desired man on Earth by any woman and his favorite companions are young boys? Da fukk?!?

But Mike gets a pass.

 

[Dad]

They slept in different beds.

Watch it again or read the articles

Michael Jackson Doc ‘Leaving Neverland’: How Culpable Are the Parents? – Rolling Stone


CNN.com - Neverland housekeeper: Kids drank, slept with Jackson - Mar 17, 2005

 

[Fatboi1]

watch those two dudes tell their story and then convince yourself Michael didn't do it... best actors on Earth if that's the case. "why did they say he didn't do it then?!" ever heard stories like this before? is this the first time you've ever heard the testimony of an abuse victim?

Actually they had to convince themselves they were abused since their story changed multiple times. Trying to appeal to emotions with those details... "Omg how can it not be true?!" Have you ever seen a movie or read a fiction book? People MAKE it up and in this case, these cats literally did do so.



There are actual abuse victims who've chimed in on this fraudumentary and called BS on these two.





"Best actors on earth."

yeah, because it's completely impossible to rehearse what you will say on a documentary. Just add some fitting music to teh background and "omg i believe him."

 

[AlainLocke]

I feel like the FBI investigation as a "checkmate" is really in bad faith, and kind of a strawman, and I am not that well versed in that aspect of the case, but I will say, I am not sure it is quite the strong argument many seem to think it is.

The FBI is a complex, massive organization, it wasn't like they had a MJ task force, and failed to come up with anything. Various FBI branches in the country appeared to have aided or offered to aid various state level investigations at various time. Some of those reports are now available in redacted form. There isn't much to suggest there was "nothing there", only that bureaucracy, the nature of the crimes, and circumstances never resulted in the FBI charging Jackson with a federal sex crime.

Inside the FBI’s Case Against Michael Jackson: Eyewitnesses, Train Rides, and an Alleged Sex Tape

This. People don't even read the FBI files on Michael Jackson or the purpose of the FBI in the investigation which was to assist. It wasn't a Michael Jackson taskforce.

I always put it like this. If 9/11 can happen - and that includes military intelligence and law enforcement agencies around the world - they couldn't prevent that - what makes people think just because the FBI investigated someone, means they are going to jail.

Prosecuting something as child sex abuse is easy without hard evidence - like DNA evidence or a video or a photograph. R.Kelly got a whole tape and the thing that cratered the case was the girl denying it is her and R.Kelly denying it was him and the jurors thinking Black girls are sluts. The law is fragile and designed to give people maximum leeway before being slapped with the guilty verdict.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

This. People don't even read the FBI files on Michael Jackson or the purpose of the FBI in the investigation which was to assist. It wasn't a Michael Jackson taskforce.

I always put it like this. If 9/11 can happen - and that includes military intelligence and law enforcement agencies around the world - they couldn't prevent that - what makes people think just because the FBI investigated someone, means they are going to jail.

Prosecuting something as child sex abuse is easy without hard evidence - like DNA evidence or a video or a photograph. R.Kelly got a whole tape and the thing that cratered the case was the girl denying it is her and R.Kelly denying it was him and the jurors thinking Black girls are sluts. The law is fragile and designed to give people maximum leeway before being slapped with the guilty verdict.

You been going on for a whole week about this, even I stopped CAC AGENT ENOUGH

 

[Sohh_lifted]

watch those two dudes tell their story and then convince yourself Michael didn't do it... best actors on Earth if that's the case. "why did they say he didn't do it then?!" ever heard stories like this before? is this the first time you've ever heard the testimony of an abuse victim?

They were good enough actors to testify on his behalf in court as well back in 2005.....so whats really good?

 

[Mike the Executioner]

You been going on for a whole week about this, even I stopped CAC AGENT ENOUGH

That's Charlie Manson. He's been shytting on MJ for years. I would just ignore him if I were you because everything he says is bullshyt.

And I noticed that I haven't seen him post a single thing in TLR because he knows he would get shut down if he did. This thread allows him to get dapped up by others who also have stayed out of TLR on purpose.

 

[MarcP]

At least some journalists are willing to speak the truth.

 

[Conz]

you dipshyts ever hear stories from people who were abused/raped/etc? just b/c they said they weren't once before means nothing. it's fukkin humiliating, no one wants the world to know they had their butthole licked by an adult man. keep caping for him though.

Sure sucking off little boys is bad, but have you heard Thriller?!!?!?!?!?

 

[Jack Skellington]

you dipshyts ever hear stories from people who were abused/raped/etc? just b/c they said they weren't once before means nothing. it's fukkin humiliating, no one wants the world to know they had their butthole licked by an adult man. keep caping for him though.

Sure sucking off little boys is bad, but have you heard Thriller?!!?!?!?!?

This nikka MJ guilty


Sick sick human being

 

[OmegaK2099]

you dipshyts ever hear stories from people who were abused/raped/etc? just b/c they said they weren't once before means nothing. it's fukkin humiliating, no one wants the world to know they had their butthole licked by an adult man. keep caping for him though.

Sure sucking off little boys is bad, but have you heard Thriller?!!?!?!?!?

I mean how do they even remember that shyt so vividly and detailed, when i cant even remember what happened last week.

 

[Conz]

that's trauma. I thankfully don't have anything like that, but i assume you bury that shyt and then once you realize what happened it hits you like a brick.