Leaving Neverland HBO Michael Jackson Documentary

[beanz]

I always found it amazing that a man who turned himself into the complete opposite of a black man (a white woman) has so many staunch supporters in the black community. U would swear we talking about Martin or Malcolm being pedophiles and not this weirdo sicko scumbag.

 

[Renzo]

They were kids and developing. shyt like this can actually alter a child’s brain chemistry. And Michael Jackson was the biggest thing on Earth.

Kirstjen Nielsen, Secretary of Homeland Security, was grilled on Congress this week in the oversight committee on the fact that this trauma with separating children will alter the brain chemistry of children.

How Trauma in Childhood Affects the Brain

They didn’t know they were being abused until they got older and heard stories of other kids. And they seemed to genuinely love Mike, even after realizing what he did to them. It’s like kids with abusive parents.

Ok? I have a ex girlfriend that was abused and she was roughly the same age as them..it mentally fukked her up and she doesnt speak of him in glowing terms at all even though it was someone she was extremely close to, nor does she have trinkets she looks at all love lorn while wistfully remembering the abuse as "exciting and dangerous"..wtf..These men are clearly lying and anyone buying this bullshyt are about as braindead as them. Mighty funny neither one these guys didnt remember any abuse until 2012 when it was time to get paid.

 

[Renzo]

I always found it amazing that a man who turned himself into the complete opposite of a black man (a white woman) has so many staunch supporters in the black community. U would swear we talking about Martin or Malcolm being pedophiles and not this weirdo sicko scumbag.

That say more about your racist ass than anything. It was his body and he was free to do whatever he wanted to with it. Thats his deal and has zero to do with anything no matter if you think he's guilty or innocent.

 

[mastermind]

Ok? I have a ex girlfriend that was abused and she was roughly the same age as them..it mentally fukked her up and she doesnt speak of him in glowing terms at all even though it was someone she was extremely close to, nor does she have trinkets she looks at all love lorn while wistfully remembering the abuse as "exciting and dangerous"..wtf..These men are clearly lying and anyone buying this bullshyt are about as braindead as them. Mighty funny neither one these guys didnt remember any abuse until 2012 when it was time to get paid.

Was she abused by someone she loves who did loving and caring things for her and her family? Michael Jackson was telling these kids that they were special and that his life was complete because they were there. Did your girl’s abuser do that?

 

[Renzo]

Was she abused by someone she loves who did loving and caring things for her and her family? Michael Jackson was telling these kids that they were special and that his life was complete because they were there. Did your girl’s abuser do that?

Did you not see where I said it was someone she was extremely close to? It went on for years and It wasnt a random guy off the street in a van coaxing her along. She said this wasnt something you just forget until years later like Wade and Safechuck claim..it follows you for the rest your life and makes it hard to form meaningful relationships with anyone family or otherwise. These guys more or less carried on as functional adults. They must have had some inkling it was wrong to knowingly lie under oath and intense investigative scrutiny as full grown men. Even changing their stories multiple times.. this whole shyt is see thru at this point.

 

[Fatboi1]

The fact that there's idiots in this thread talking about MJ according to the words of these two debunked and admitted liars in an swiss cheese documentary as "evidence" for what they're arguing....

I truly believe common sense isn't so common.

 

[mastermind]

Did you not see where I said it was someone she was extremely close to? It went on for years and It wasnt a random guy off the street in a van coaxing her along. She said this wasnt something you just forget until years later like Wade and Safechuck claim..it follows you for the rest your life and makes it hard to form meaningful relationships with anyone family or otherwise. These guys more or less carried on as functional adults. They must have had some inkling it was wrong to knowingly lie under oath and intense investigative scrutiny as full grown men. Even changing their stories multiple times.. this whole shyt is see thru at this point.

I’m aware it wasn’t a random guy. My question is was that person loving and caring, etc? That is what Mike Jack did with those boys, according to them. What sadly happened to your girl, dude coulda been a drunk and treated the family bad and did that to her. I dated a girl who said her father abused her and treated the family bad.

Also, I don’t think Robson and Safechuck claimed they forgot any of it.

 

[Conz]

The fact that there's idiots in this thread talking about MJ according to the words of these two debunked and admitted liars in an swiss cheese documentary as "evidence" for what they're arguing....

I truly believe common sense isn't so common.

*looks at name, sees "Hall of Shame." doesn't need to know much more*

 

[Fatboi1]

*looks at name, sees "Hall of Shame." doesn't need to know much more*

You can't even refute anything I'm saying and bringing up "Hall of Shame" as if it has anything to do with the topic is a deflection. You dudes are fukking clowns. Deflections and hypotheticals is all you can resort to. You guys should just quit it, the truth and facts isn't on your side.

 

[KingJudah2]

The fact that there's idiots in this thread talking about MJ according to the words of these two debunked and admitted liars in an swiss cheese documentary as "evidence" for what they're arguing....

I truly believe common sense isn't so common.

nikkas is stupid. Okra Wimpry is disgusting too doing these cracka jews dirty work. (Geffen, McCartney)

 

[Renzo]

I’m aware it wasn’t a random guy. My question is was that person loving and caring, etc? That is what Mike Jack did with those boys, according to them. What sadly happened to your girl, dude coulda been a drunk and treated the family bad and did that to her. I dated a girl who said her father abused her and treated the family bad.

Also, I don’t think Robson and Safechuck claimed they forgot any of it.

She was 8 years old and who knows if he was drunk or not, thats besides the point. Even at 8 yrs old.. she knew what was going on was wrong unlike these two and it follwed her the rest of her life.. Wade acts like a scorned ex wife jealous of anyone who might be close to Jackson and stop his opportunities. Safechuck sits there and reminisces fondly upon the so called abuse even keeping jewelry for what reason exactly? Even calling the interactions "dangerous and exciting" like some creepy voyuer. And yes Wade angling for a position with the Vegas Jackson shows, when he doesn't get it..suddenly he was the kid abused hundreds of times.. stating it was repressed memories that just came back to him. Get the fukk outta here.. you dont forget a grown man licking your ass and molesting you hundreds of times I dont care how old you were. He is clearly lying. Neither of their stories make sense and they have a clear incentive to lie.

 

[mastermind]

She was 8 years old and who knows if he was drunk or not, thats besides the point. Even at 8 yrs old.. she knew what was going on was wrong unlike these two and it follwed her the rest of her life.. Wade acts like a scorned ex wife jealous of anyone who might be close to Jackson and stop his opportunities. Safechuck sits there and reminisces fondly upon the so called abuse even keeping jewelry for what reason exactly? Even calling the interactions "dangerous and exciting" like some creepy voyuer. And yes Wade angling for a position with the Vegas Jackson shows, when he doesn't get it..suddenly he was the kid abused hundreds of times.. stating it was repressed memories that just came back to him. Get the fukk outta here.. you dont forget a grown man licking your ass and molesting you hundreds of times I dont care how old you were. He is clearly lying. Neither of their stories make sense and they have a clear incentive to lie.

It isn’t beside the point. That’s how grooming happens. The abuser makes it “us against the world,” and “you are amazing, it would be bad if this had to end.”

This often leads to Stockholm Syndrome where they remember it fondly or won’t tell because they don’t want the abuser to get in trouble.

Does grooming lead to Stockholm syndrome? - Massey University

Your woman was able to overcome that but many aren’t.

Of anything tho, I believe them because those boys don’t rock with their moms as adults and in Robson’s case none of the kids rock with the mom.

 

[Renzo]

It isn’t beside the point. That’s how grooming happens. The abuser makes it “us against the world,” and “you are amazing, it would be bad if this had to end.”

This often leads to Stockholm Syndrome where they remember it fondly or won’t tell because they don’t want the abuser to get in trouble.

Does grooming lead to Stockholm syndrome? - Massey University

Your woman was able to overcome that but many aren’t.

Of anything tho, I believe them because those boys don’t rock with their moms as adults and in Robson’s case none of the kids rock with the mom.

Good for you, I dont believe them. Timelines dont match up and the stories and their overall are inconsistent. Its going to take more than a bias documentary to sway me.

 

[beanz]

That say more about your racist ass than anything. It was his body and he was free to do whatever he wanted to with it. Thats his deal and has zero to do with anything no matter if you think he's guilty or innocent.

I wonder if u take that same stance when u see carribean black people bleaching their skin

Sorry to break it to your emotional ass, but that clown u defending was a child molester who got away with it in court just like oj is a killer who got away with it in court. Rich people get away with shyt all the time.

 

[Busby]

It’s flopping over seas and his music streams/sales lowkey increased.

Gotta try harder to take out the King..