Lebron 25 points in 1st qtr
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Now you're talking situational. He'd be viewed no different than a guy who started strong and took the L.
He put up 43. Every point was needed. I've said that on nights where he's scored 30 becuz the Heat are so bad. But outside of some FTs in the 4th he was nonexistent. I don't necessarily have a problem with the performance. I have a problem with people making it seem better than what it was.
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the fukk is this from?
NYC Rebel
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Yeah....this post is what's typically said when ass arguments are exposed
yeah bosh really showed his ass in that crucial game 7 of the Finals when his team really needed him
highest paid player on the team. 0 points
If it wasnt for Chris Bosh and Ray Allen at the end of Game 6, it wouldnt even BEEN no Game 7
Yall LeBron stans always hating on Bosh
Or maybe you really do that. I don't go into any argument without having the facts and I think that's where you usually win. You're usually arguing with idiots.
But that's why the big homie. Can't front
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Bron is nothing like elite big men. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.
His passing is not close to Point Guard level. Bron averages 1.8 assists for every turnover at 6.6 assists with 3.5 turnovers. CP3 averages 4.2 assists for every turnover at 11.1 assists with 2.6 turnovers. CP3 would have to turn the ball over 6.1 times per game to get his 11.1 assists at Bron efficiency. Turnovers are a result of bad ball-handling. The better your vision, timing, and accuracy is, the more you will complete your passes. Raymond Felton's averages 2.6 (that's more than Lj) and he was on the Bobcats and he's not even a top Point Guard. Mario averages 2 assists per turnover (that's more than Lj). 'Melo averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for their careers (0.6 less this season) and 'Melo is his exact size and has never played Point Guard, never been the primary ball-handler on his teams. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. Lj is down there with the bottom-feeders.
No, he did not. Bron played two .500 teams (Nets & Wizards) to get to the ECF. When he got there, Daniel Gibson was the 2nd leading scorer in the series, and went on to out-play Bron in game 6, scoring 19 of their last 31 points (but 31 pts total in the game) to eliminate the Pistons and was a +19 for the game. Bron got swept by the Spurs in the next round (the Finals). When he did have a “bum team”, he couldn't even take them to the Playoffs 2 years in a row, much less the Finals.
Both 'Melo and Durant are better than he is at shooting and 'Melo is a better ball-handler. 'Melo averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for their careers (0.6 less this season) and 'Melo is his exact size and has never played Point Guard, never been the primary ball-handler on his teams. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. Durant averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for his career (0.3 this season) and he only plays PG when RW is out.
Bron is nothing like elite big men in the paint. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.
That was Lebron's percentages last year. Lebron does not have an average jumper. He has an above average jumper, he's just far better at the 3 and in the lane.
In the same way that Jordan was only an average 3 point shooter, Lebron is probably an okay shooter from mid-range but he's godly in the paint and great from the 3. Jordan is godly from mid and great in the paint.
Lebron doesn't focus on midrange because they're typically the least efficient shot in basketball.
We don't know that Jordan was an average 3-pt shooter because he didn't attempt very many because that shot just wasn't a part of the game back then as it is now. Kerr always points that out. Bron attempts a hair under 4 and only makes 1.5 of them. Less than 2 makes per game is not exactly elite. He's as bad as aged Ray Allen. He can't shoot them with a hand in his face or on 1 foot like elite shooters. He needs to be wide open. Lj doesn't focus on mid-range because he's not good at them when they're contested. If it had anything to do with how efficient they are, he wouldn't attempt turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as much as he does. 3's are the least efficient shots but he takes them, doesn't he (and doesn't shoot them well)? He doesn't attempt difficult shots as much as elite shooters because he can't make them with any kind of consistency.
Why you catching feelings? Dat anger
When was I talking about Kobe at all? How is that relevant to the convo?
The difference between Kobe and Bron is that Bron takes smart shots and Kobe takes dumb fadeaways over 3 defenders. That still does not mean Lebron's jumper is not suspect, especially when you consider that most of his 50% jumpers are within the free throw line. How is Lebron still shooting the same career average from downtown as player that takes some of the dumbest and most difficult shots in nba history?
This is the most ridiculous lie I have ever read. What you just stated is that Bron does not take difficult shots.
What was that shot he took to end the 1st quarter against Houston on Sunday?
If he thinks like you claim he does, he wouldn't attempt turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as much as he does. He doesn't attempt difficult shots as much as elite shooters because he can't make them with any kind of consistency.
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Why should he or any human being focus on a mid range shot if they're not being stoppled when shooting closer to the basket with more proficency?Bron is nothing like elite big men. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.
His passing is not close to Point Guard level. Bron averages 1.8 assists for every turnover at 6.6 assists with 3.5 turnovers. CP3 averages 4.2 assists for every turnover at 11.1 assists with 2.6 turnovers. CP3 would have to turn the ball over 6.1 times per game to get his 11.1 assists at Bron efficiency. Turnovers are a result of bad ball-handling. The better your vision, timing, and accuracy is, the more you will complete your passes. Raymond Felton's averages 2.6 and his career high average is 9 and he was on the Bobcats and he's not even a top Point Guard. Mario averages 2 assists per turnover. 'Melo averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for their careers (0.6 less this season) and 'Melo is his exact size and has never played Point Guard, never been the primary ball-handler on his teams. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. Lj is down there with the bottom-feeders.
No, he did not. Bron played two .500 teams (Nets & Wizards) to get to the ECF. When he got there, Daniel Gibson was the 2nd leading scorer in the series, and went on to out-play Bron in game 6, scoring 19 of their last 31 points (but 31 pts total in the game) to eliminate the Pistons and was a +19 for the game. Bron got swept by the Spurs in the next round (the Finals). When he did have a “bum team”, he couldn't even take them to the Playoffs 2 years in a row, much less the Finals.
Both 'Melo and Durant are better than he is at shooting and 'Melo is a better ball-handler. 'Melo averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for their careers (0.6 less this season) and 'Melo is his exact size and has never played Point Guard, never been the primary ball-handler on his teams. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. Durant averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for his career (0.3 this season) and he only plays PG when RW is out.
Bron is nothing like elite big men in the paint. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.
We don't know that Jordan was an average 3-pt shooter because he didn't attempt very many because that shot just wasn't a part of the game back then as it is now. Kerr always points that out. Bron attempts a hair under 4 and only makes 1.5 of them. Less than 2 makes per game is not exactly elite. He's as bad as aged Ray Allen. He can't shoot them with a hand in his face or on 1 foot like elite shooters. He needs to be wide open. Lj doesn't focus on mid-range because he's not good at them when they're contested. If it had anything to do with how efficient they are, he wouldn't attempt turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as much as he does. He doesn't attempt difficult shots as much as elite shooters because he can't make them with any kind of consistency.
This is the most ridiculous lie I have ever read. What you just stated is that Bron does not take difficult shots.
You guys stay using figure skating metrics to make points.
smh
1. I read all of that shyt and was mad that I did.Why should he or any human being focus on a mid range shot if they're not being stoppled when shooting closer to the basket with more proficency?
You guys stay using figure skating metrics to make points.
smh
2. It was less of a point and more like a detraction.
3. It was bad either way
Why should he or any human being focus on a mid range shot if they're not being stoppled when shooting closer to the basket with more proficency?
You guys stay using figure skating metrics to make points.
smh
Where did he state that in the post?
Make up questions and act enraged to imaginary quotes brehs
NYC Rebel
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Clearly he is in saying why he doesn't take mid range shots. He doesn't HAVE TOWhere did he state that in the post?
Make up questions to imaginary quotes brehs
Second...its amazing you focus on what I post and bypass that drivel you're c/s.
Dude called Bron pathetic like being a 71% shooter closer to the basket is a bad option.
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Why should he or any human being focus on a mid range shot if they're not being stoppled when shooting closer to the basket with more proficency?
You guys stay using figure skating metrics to make points.
smh
I'm really a she. It's really me in the avi. I never said he “should”. I stated why he barely shoots them because the person I quoted provided some nonsense about efficiency being the issue. That's why I said, “Lj doesn't focus on mid-range because he's not good at them when they're contested. [If efficiency was the issue], he wouldn't attempt turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as much as he does. He doesn't attempt difficult shots as much as elite shooters because he can't make them with any kind of consistency”. There are games where he's required to shoot mid-range J's because guys like 'Melo, Metta, Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When those times come, he either doesn't shoot or he shoots poorly.
There are games where he's required to shoot mid-range J's because guys like 'Melo, Metta, Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When those times come, he either doesn't shoot or he shoots poorly.
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If it were that simple with Diaw, the league would be full of Diaws to stop him.
Only in the Coli do we take a blip on a radar and overrate it as something tied to their career
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Taking my talents to South Beach
If it wasnt for Chris Bosh and Ray Allen at the end of Game 6, it wouldnt even BEEN no Game 7
Yall LeBron stans always hating on Bosh
the nikka went scoreless in game 7 of the fukking finals.
that's not hate, it's a fact.
if bron and wade didnt close out the spurs in game 7, there's a good chance bosh would be on the bucks or some shyt right now. riley pretty much admitted someone on the big 3 wouldve been gone and everyone knows who.
i've seen the way yall bash pau, callin him soft and shyt after he puts up 18 and 10...imagine if he put up 0 in a Finals game, yall would revoke his american citizenship
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The league isn't replete with players as long as Diaw, yet quick enough to keep someone as fast as Lj in front of them, especially at his age; just like it isn't replete with superstars. Doesn't make my statements any less true.
