Lebron 25 points in 1st qtr
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Victim of Racism
I'm a brehette
Youre obviously new to how this shyt works.
TheSmiley should give you the hint that the post wasn't meant to be taking serious....
:nateholdup:Relax
You know what, believe it or not, I did get that feeling.
hahahahahahaha I low key thought it was hilarious too. On some “
at that really being you in the pic”. hahahahahaha 
Dude needs to understand that Lebron was typically the primary scorer of his team and is typically the best choice to score the ball.
Lebron is in the rare class of players who is by far the best scorer and best playmaker on the team so he has to look for his own shot as well. It's why you rarely see dudes averaging 27 points and as many assists as Lebron.
Go look at AST% and TOV% for Lebron then go look at a Lebron's career numbers for APG and then understand that he's not only a PG but the best scorer and primary offensive option at most times. For the people who average higher APG over their entire career, they aren't anywhere near the scorer Lebron is.
Lebron is pretty much a great PG.
Lebron is in the rare class of players who is by far the best scorer and best playmaker on the team so he has to look for his own shot as well. It's why you rarely see dudes averaging 27 points and as many assists as Lebron.
Go look at AST% and TOV% for Lebron then go look at a Lebron's career numbers for APG and then understand that he's not only a PG but the best scorer and primary offensive option at most times. For the people who average higher APG over their entire career, they aren't anywhere near the scorer Lebron is.
Lebron is pretty much a great PG.
Cerebral Labyrinth
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According to this thread:
Lebron's jumper is ass.
His court vision is fair at best.
He is not skillful.
Lebron's jumper is ass.
His court vision is fair at best.
He is not skillful.
It's a very minor skill in the sense that players with much lesser 3pt shooting ability are EXTREMELY more skilled than a fukking Steve Kerr.
Now, answer my question.....Derek Fisher has 5 rings as a STARTING PG. How much skill did he have in comparision to Isiah Thomas who had 2?
Isiah Thomas only won 2 rings as a starting PG and was a 29% career 3 pt shooter. Derek Fisher has 5 rings as a starting PG and is a career 37.4% 3pt shooter. How much skill did Derek Fisher have in comparision to Isiah Thomas?
I'm waiting for your response. Please and Thank you
Who is debating Zeke's skill set vs Fisher's...NOBODY!!...you are having an imaginary debate with yourself..
How did this even get brought into this discussion...Now back to what I quoted YOU on...YOU said 3pt shooting is NOT a skill..
...and then YOU brought up Kerr...I then quoted you regarding that...and my POV is that how can a guy with NO skill such as Kerr be wanted/a part of so many title teams( hitting clutch shots nonetheless) and not have a skill because according to YOU( 3pt shooting is NOT a skill)...
There are guys who have made a living in the NBA MAINLY/ONLY because they can shoot( you know the goal of bball, to put the ball in the hoop)..and more importantly shoot the 3 ball which gives these other all around skilled guys(MJ,Kobe, LBJ, Wade, Melo,Durant, Shaq, so forth and so on) the ability to have space and do what they do....
Again, what's the grey area for you? What do you NOT understand?
score 25 in the first quarter, then 19 the next three to only win a game by 4 points brehs
The conversation is supposed to stop. The world in which 43 on 14-18 with a handful of boards, assists, and blocks in a victory has "another side" to it is not a world in which sane people need to venture. We've reached a really loco sphere on this board. Struggle 60s and disappointing 43 point games on over 70% shooting in a victory... There is no conversation to be had, man. If we discuss that kind of game as if it's somehow being overrated and has a downside, we've slipped into a nonsensical relativism in which we probably shouldn't appreciate any performance.
And that's not fair bruh. Not if you sat there and watched the game anyway. It's almost as if it's a crime to look at it objectively. And there's only one player in the league that I don't look at objectively and that's DWade. fukk him.
And I agree with you about the 60 point game . nikkas was just hatin for the sake of hatin.
Bron is nothing like elite big men. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.
His passing is not close to Point Guard level. Bron averages 1.8 assists for every turnover at 6.6 assists with 3.5 turnovers. CP3 averages 4.2 assists for every turnover at 11.1 assists with 2.6 turnovers. CP3 would have to turn the ball over 6.1 times per game to get his 11.1 assists at Bron efficiency. Turnovers are a result of bad ball-handling. The better your vision, timing, and accuracy is, the more you will complete your passes. Raymond Felton's averages 2.6 and his career high average is 9 and he was on the Bobcats and he's not even a top Point Guard. Mario averages 2 assists per turnover. 'Melo averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for their careers (0.6 less this season) and 'Melo is his exact size and has never played Point Guard, never been the primary ball-handler on his teams. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. Lj is down there with the bottom-feeders.
No, he did not. Bron played two .500 teams (Nets & Wizards) to get to the ECF. When he got there, Daniel Gibson was the 2nd leading scorer in the series, and went on to out-play Bron in game 6, scoring 19 of their last 31 points (but 31 pts total in the game) to eliminate the Pistons and was a +19 for the game. Bron got swept by the Spurs in the next round (the Finals). When he did have a “bum team”, he couldn't even take them to the Playoffs 2 years in a row, much less the Finals.
Both 'Melo and Durant are better than he is at shooting and 'Melo is a better ball-handler. 'Melo averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for their careers (0.6 less this season) and 'Melo is his exact size and has never played Point Guard, never been the primary ball-handler on his teams. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. Durant averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for his career (0.3 this season) and he only plays PG when RW is out.
Bron is nothing like elite big men in the paint. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.
We don't know that Jordan was an average 3-pt shooter because he didn't attempt very many because that shot just wasn't a part of the game back then as it is now. Kerr always points that out. Bron attempts a hair under 4 and only makes 1.5 of them. Less than 2 makes per game is not exactly elite. He's as bad as aged Ray Allen. He can't shoot them with a hand in his face or on 1 foot like elite shooters. He needs to be wide open. Lj doesn't focus on mid-range because he's not good at them when they're contested. If it had anything to do with how efficient they are, he wouldn't attempt turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as much as he does. 3's are the least efficient shots but he takes them, doesn't he (and doesn't shoot them well)? He doesn't attempt difficult shots as much as elite shooters because he can't make them with any kind of consistency.
This is the most ridiculous lie I have ever read. What you just stated is that Bron does not take difficult shots.What was that shot he took to end the 1st quarter against Houston on Sunday?
What court vision? He saw Ray before he penetrated, which is why he pretended like he was going to shoot it. Bron averages 1.8 assists for every turnover at 6.6 assists with 3.5 turnovers. CP3 averages 4.2 assists for every turnover at 11.1 assists with 2.6 turnovers. CP3 would have to turn the ball over 6.1 times per game to get his 11.1 assists at Bron efficiency. Turnovers are a result of bad ball-handling. The better your vision, timing, and accuracy is, the more you will complete your passes. Raymond Felton's averages 2.6 and his career high average is 9 and he was on the Bobcats and he's not even a top Point Guard. Mario averages 2 assists per turnover. Kobe only averages 0.2 less assists per turnover (0.2 less last season) than Lj, despite Lj playing PG his entire career. 'Melo averages 0.8 less assists per turnover for their careers (0.6 less this season) and 'Melo is his exact size and has never played Point Guard, never been the primary ball-handler on his teams. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. Lj is down there with the bottom-feeders.
'Melo is a better rebounder and the better ball-handler. Kobe is a good defender and Lj is horrendous at defense. One-dimensional?
Kobe and 'Melo have worked on their shooting so much that they don't need to be big and fast to be effective. They can shoot from the perimeter with good defenders draped all over them with consistency. If Lj had to do that, he wouldn't score. A few months ago, I watched that Lakers/Denver WCF series and just about every shot Kobe took was turn-around fade-aways on one 1 foot and other tough shots like it. He still shot 48% from the field and 62.7% True Shooting, which is just.
He shoots 45% from the field and 55% True Shooting for his career with few easy baskets. 'Melo's numbers are similar. Last season, 'Melo shot 56.9% on 65 turn-around fade-aways. He's efficient on fade-aways over double-teams and other tough shots like it. Chuckers?Chuckers don't shoot efficiently. Let me find out that by “chuckers” you mean taking difficult shots because I just went over that and it don't look good for Lj.
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welcome to the coli brehette. you have the worst posts i've read here in a while.
i cant even argue thats
levels of LeBron doesnt stat pad?
He doesnt just go about getting his numbers in the flow of the game. He's conscious of his numbers and looks to get them.
LeBron is skillful?
He's NOT skillful. His technique and footwork isnt elite and his shooting form with the way he falls back is awful, his post game is average to below average, and he still does not know how to play off the ball. Besides this, his handles/dribbling ability leaves alot to be desired as well. He's a great player, but he has alot of flaws in his game (which I dont have time to really get too indepth with) when you talk about his "skill" or lack of.
He still dominates, but using skillful and LeBron in the same sentence is almost an oxymoron.
Some Heat fan said something about LeBron being like a big man and I agree. He's really the Shaq of the perimeter with a decent jumper he's developed over the years
breh
what the fukk?
you crab nikkas dumber by the minute
madeyoulook
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How is that any different than people saying Kobe's first 3 rings don't count? That shyt is more ridiculous than being underwhelmed by a struggle 60 or a Bosh led victory in the 4th.
Every player has haters yet Lebron's defense force now even includes "neutral" fans.
Lumping in people that say Lebron's court vision is non existent with people with a legitimate argument about his struggle jumper is disingenuous.
Legitimate criticism will never stop until the ridiculous levels of stannin and defending level down as well
@ his jumperAnd you keep acting like Lebron has a bad post game. He doesn't. He's one of the better and more efficient post games around. You confuse flash and amount of moves with skill. Lebron has few moves but they're still very hard to stop in a one on one situation because he's also an amazing passer out of the post.
Lebron is plenty skilled. He just prefers dominating with the easiest and most efficient shots possible. Lebron's skills are more focused on the mental side if basketball such as noticing weak rotations, reading defensive schemes, predicting or baiting defenses to make passes, and attacking when defenses are at the weakest.
He's also a GOAT-tier at finishing due to his size, strength, body control, balance, and absurd touch around the rim.
How is that any different than people saying Kobe's first 3 rings don't count? That shyt is more ridiculous than being underwhelmed by a struggle 60 or a Bosh led victory in the 4th.
Every player has haters yet Lebron's defense force now even includes "neutral" fans.
Lumping in people that say Lebron's court vision is non existent with people with a legitimate argument about his struggle jumper is disingenuous.
Legitimate criticism will never stop until the ridiculous levels of stannin and defending level down as well
First off plenty of people give him props and credit for all 5 of his rings. The only reason people ever started the "he needed Shaq"/"he wasn't the man" shyt was to respond to people lazily tossing "3 rings" out there when comparing him to contemporaries or even young MJ. People always leave that part out.
There is nothing wrong with legitimate criticism the problem is that these days there are fewer and few legit criticism of the man so people have had to resort to saying silly shyt. Every player has stans that will defend their every move and haters that will find something to nitpick. Both are silly and distort the conversation. Being on one side or the other doesn't stop the other side from existing. If you wanna keep it real keep it real. It doesn't not benefit the interest of keeping it real to hop in on the stannery/hating and then turn around and say "bu...bu...but the other side is doin it".
Victim of Racism
I'm a brehette
at you getting into your feelings about an entertainer. 
Asserting that a post is nonsense isn't proof. 
And 
at you taking the time to read and comment about an “essay” that you claim is nonsense. 