Lebron 25 points in 1st qtr

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welcome to the coli brehette. you have the worst posts i've read here in a while.

i cant even argue thats levels of


breh

what the fukk?

Thanks for the welcome. The name “brehette” is . I like it. But: Asserting that a post is without merit isn't proof.

 

[Victim of Racism]

Jesus, this was a whole bunch of nothing and I saw a whole bunch of crap in it too.

Lebron's impact is very similar to a big man. He attempts and scores at the rim at a rate that most centers aren't able too, typically requires double teams, and pretty much instantly draws fouls unless you double him. It typically takes a huge team effort to keep him from dismantling you at the rim with his ability to get into the paint and finish.

Where are you getting your info about assists and turnovers at? Melo averages 3.1 ASTS and 2.9 TOV over his career while Lebron averages 6.9 AST to 3.3 TOV. It's why Lebron has an AST% of 34.2% and Melo has one of 15.8%. Lebron is in the top 30 players in league history in career average of APG but he's also typically been the best scorer on his team whereas a lot of the other players were primary PG. But Lebron's AST/ TOV ratio very damn impressive and among some of the best to play in the game.

Lebron is an above average shooter, not elite. He shoots at an elite efficiency because he's a much smarter shooter than most due to high BBALL IQ and he takes the smartest shot possible. He's still an elite and god-tier scorer so I don't understand the point of this. Kobe attempts a hair under 4 and only makes 1.5 of then too for his career.

Asserting that a post is without merit isn't proof.

You conveniently didn't address this statement:

“Bron is nothing like elite big men. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.” Such isn't the case with guys like Dwight and Shaq.

If you divide 'Melo's asts by his tov's, you get 1. If you divide Bron's you get 1.8. That's a 0.8 difference. 'Melo's ast % is going to be lower than Bron's because he's never played PG. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. The current PG (Felton) leads them in touches (as do most PG's). Bron leads Miami in touches because he's the PG. Because of this, if Bron was an elite passer, he'd have more than a 0.8 difference in ast/tov ratio from dudes who don't and have never played PG. Go compare his ast % to CP3 and Rondo, not 'Melo or any other non-pg. A 1.8 ast/tov ratio isn't impressive at all. If it was among the best, why is CP3's 4 for his career (4.5 this season) and Rondo's 3? Like I said before, even Felton and Mario have a better ast/tov ratio; it's down there with the bottom feeders. Is Felton's and Mario's ast/tov ratio “among the best in the game”? I thought not. Just because Lj avgs more ppg than his teammates, that doesn't mean Wade and Bosh need him to be taking all the shots. He barely avgs more ppg than they do with the same amount of shots.

If high bball iq supposedly prevents him from taking certain shots, why does he attempt as many turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as he does? 3's are the least efficient shots (that's why their worth the most points) but he takes them, doesn't he (and doesn't shoot them well)? He takes more 3's than he does mid-range jumpers. In your eyes, that's low bball iq. I'm not buying this nonsense you're selling. High bball iq with respect to shooting is to not take shots that you can't make consistently. Guys like Jordan, Kobe, 'Melo, Durant, Pierce etc don't do that. The difference is, they can make practically every shot consistently and Lj can't. You conveniently ignored when I wrote, unlike Kobe, “he can't shoot them with a hand in his face or on 1 foot like elite shooters. He needs to be wide open”. Kobe shoots them on 1 foot, fading away over double-teams and makes them with consistency. There's a difference between Lj's 1.5 and Kobe's 1.5. You say Lj isn't an elite shooter, but then compare him to an elite shooter like Kobe, attempting to put him on the same level.

Dude needs to understand that Lebron was typically the primary scorer of his team and is typically the best choice to score the ball.

Lebron is in the rare class of players who is by far the best scorer and best playmaker on the team so he has to look for his own shot as well. It's why you rarely see dudes averaging 27 points and as many assists as Lebron.

Go look at AST% and TOV% for Lebron then go look at a Lebron's career numbers for APG and then understand that he's not only a PG but the best scorer and primary offensive option at most times. For the people who average higher APG over their entire career, they aren't anywhere near the scorer Lebron is.

Lebron is pretty much a great PG.

Compare his ast% and tov% to CP3 and Rondo. Then go compare it to guys like Felton and see what you get. smh Are you really trying to argue that guys like Parker, Rose, CP3, Rondo etc couldn't average at least 25ppg off of 20 shots (Lj's average for his career)?

And you keep acting like Lebron has a bad post game. He doesn't. He's one of the better and more efficient post games around. You confuse flash and amount of moves with skill. Lebron has few moves but they're still very hard to stop in a one on one situation because he's also an amazing passer out of the post.

Lebron is plenty skilled. He just prefers dominating with the easiest and most efficient shots possible. Lebron's skills are more focused on the mental side if basketball such as noticing weak rotations, reading defensive schemes, predicting or baiting defenses to make passes, and attacking when defenses are at the weakest.

He's also a GOAT-tier at finishing due to his size, strength, body control, balance, and absurd touch around the rim.

Hol' up, now you're arguing that “preferring to dominate with the easiest and most efficient shots possible” is the reason he doesn't post up much but he takin' 3's , while still pointing out that he has great “size, strength, body control, balance, and absurd touch around the rim”? I really can't with the .

 

[Kaypain]

Asserting that a post is without merit isn't proof.

You conveniently didn't address this statement:

“Bron is nothing like elite big men. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.” Such isn't the case with guys like Dwight and Shaq.

If you divide 'Melo's asts by his tov's, you get 1. If you divide Bron's you get 1.8. That's a 0.8 difference. 'Melo's ast % is going to be lower than Bron's because he's never played PG. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. The current PG (Felton) leads them in touches (as do most PG's). Bron leads Miami in touches because he's the PG. Because of this, if Bron was an elite passer, he'd have more than a 0.8 difference in ast/tov ratio from dudes who don't and have never played PG. A 1.8 ast/tov ratio isn't impressive at all. If it was among the best, why is CP3's 4 for his career (4.5 this season) and Rondo's 3? Like I said before, even Felton and Mario have a better ast/tov ratio; it's down there with the bottom feeders. Is Felton's and Mario's ast/tov ratio “among the best in the game”? I thought not. Just because Lj avgs more ppg than his teammates, that doesn't mean Wade and Bosh need him to be taking all the shots. He barely avgs more ppg than they do with the same amount of shots.

If high bball iq supposedly prevents him from taking certain shots, why does he attempt as many turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as he does? 3's are the least efficient shots (that's why their worth the most points) but he takes them, doesn't he (and doesn't shoot them well)? He takes more 3's than he does mid-range jumpers. In your eyes, that's low bball iq. I'm not buying this nonsense you're selling. High bball iq with respect to shooting is to not take shots that you can't make consistently. Guys like Jordan, Kobe, 'Melo, Durant, Pierce etc don't do that. The difference is, they can make practically every shot consistently and Lj can't. You conveniently ignored when I wrote, unlike Kobe, “he can't shoot them with a hand in his face or on 1 foot like elite shooters. He needs to be wide open”. Kobe shoots them on 1 foot, fading away over double-teams and makes them with consistency. There's a difference between Lj's 1.5 and Kobe's 1.5. You say Lj isn't an elite shooter, but then compare him to an elite shooter like Kobe, attempting to put him on the same level.



Are you really trying to argue that guys like Parker, Rose, CP3, Rondo etc couldn't average at least 25ppg off of 20 shots (Lj's average for his career)?



Hol' up, now you're arguing that “preferring to dominate with the easiest and most efficient shots possible” is the reason he doesn't post up much but he takin' 3's , while still pointing out that he has great “size, strength, body control, balance, and absurd touch around the rim”? I really can't with the .

When can I smash tho?

 

[ThugLife]

at you getting into your feelings about an entertainer. Asserting that a post is nonsense isn't proof. And at you taking the time to read and comment about an “essay” that you claim is nonsense.

If you think I read more than 1/4 of that bullshyt you must be out your damn mind

 

[Victim of Racism]

If you think I read more than 1/4 of that bullshyt you must be out your damn mind

that you thought that sounds even remotely true when you interpreted the post.

 

[Victim of Racism]

When can I smash tho?

 

[Draje]

Asserting that a post is without merit isn't proof.

You conveniently didn't address this statement:

“Bron is nothing like elite big men. He won't even shoot the ball when Kobe, 'Melo, or Metta guards him. He always tries to get the switch. He barely shoots when Tayshaun Prince guards him and when he does, he shoots poorly. He shot poorly when KD guarded him. Paul George, Kawhi, Butler, and of ALL people, fat (and old) Diaw and etc can keep him in front of them. When they're on him, he won't even shoot until the whistles start blowing to get these defenders off of him (the most recent incident I can think of is in the bulls series w/ Butler). It's actually pretty pathetic how he can be so easily taken out of a game.” Such isn't the case with guys like Dwight and Shaq.

If you divide 'Melo's asts by his tov's, you get 1. If you divide Bron's you get 1.8. That's a 0.8 difference. 'Melo's ast % is going to be lower than Bron's because he's never played PG. It's been guys like Billups, Felton, Beno, Pablo etc. The current PG (Felton) leads them in touches (as do most PG's). Bron leads Miami in touches because he's the PG. Because of this, if Bron was an elite passer, he'd have more than a 0.8 difference in ast/tov ratio from dudes who don't and have never played PG. Go compare his ast % to CP3 and Rondo, not 'Melo or any other non-pg. A 1.8 ast/tov ratio isn't impressive at all. If it was among the best, why is CP3's 4 for his career (4.5 this season) and Rondo's 3? Like I said before, even Felton and Mario have a better ast/tov ratio; it's down there with the bottom feeders. Is Felton's and Mario's ast/tov ratio “among the best in the game”? I thought not. Just because Lj avgs more ppg than his teammates, that doesn't mean Wade and Bosh need him to be taking all the shots. He barely avgs more ppg than they do with the same amount of shots.

If high bball iq supposedly prevents him from taking certain shots, why does he attempt as many turn-around fade-aways and shots on 1 foot as he does? 3's are the least efficient shots (that's why their worth the most points) but he takes them, doesn't he (and doesn't shoot them well)? He takes more 3's than he does mid-range jumpers. In your eyes, that's low bball iq. I'm not buying this nonsense you're selling. High bball iq with respect to shooting is to not take shots that you can't make consistently. Guys like Jordan, Kobe, 'Melo, Durant, Pierce etc don't do that. The difference is, they can make practically every shot consistently and Lj can't. You conveniently ignored when I wrote, unlike Kobe, “he can't shoot them with a hand in his face or on 1 foot like elite shooters. He needs to be wide open”. Kobe shoots them on 1 foot, fading away over double-teams and makes them with consistency. There's a difference between Lj's 1.5 and Kobe's 1.5. You say Lj isn't an elite shooter, but then compare him to an elite shooter like Kobe, attempting to put him on the same level.



Compare his ast% and tov% to CP3 and Rondo. Then go compare it to guys like Felton and see what you get. smh Are you really trying to argue that guys like Parker, Rose, CP3, Rondo etc couldn't average at least 25ppg off of 20 shots (Lj's average for his career)?



Hol' up, now you're arguing that “preferring to dominate with the easiest and most efficient shots possible” is the reason he doesn't post up much but he takin' 3's , while still pointing out that he has great “size, strength, body control, balance, and absurd touch around the rim”? I really can't with the .

Still more BS.

You're posting single game instances of players guarding Lebron and acting like it means anything. Lebron likes the PNR and the switch because it opens his passing If you try to double his drive and if he gets a single step, he typically gets to the hoop. All the other stuff is pointless.

Lebron's passing ability is pretty much GOAT among non-PGs and up there with most great PGs. You comparing him to Rondo, CP3, and Chalmers by not realizing Lebron is always the first option on fast breaks because he's a GOAT finisher at the rim and one of the best transition players of all time. CP3 and Rondo are always looking for trailers because they don't finish like Lebron.

3s are more efficient than long range 2s. Lebron takes as many 3s as Kobe and makes them more consistently because he's better at recognizing when to take them. You don't get plus points for difficulty, Lebron is still a great 3 Point shooter.

And no, I don't think Rose, Parker, and all those guys can average 27.5 on 20 because most players don't and they damn sure couldn't do it while averaging 7 assists. MJ averaged 4 more points on 3 more attempts.

And Lebron takes 3 because it opens up his drives, spaces the floor, and makes it more dangerous. Lebron dominated with the most efficient shots possible meaning he'll take advantage if getting to the rim whenever he can before he used his mid-range.

All the other crap you posted was just BS and didn't really change the fact that Lebron's passing is among GOAT-tier for non-PGs, that he's a top 30 Career APG leader and one of the few ones that averaged as many assists as he does while also averaging as many FGA over his career, etc.

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

So how many points did he finish with?

 

[#StarkSet]

So how many points did he finish with?

28

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

28

Seriously??

 

[#StarkSet]

Seriously??

as a heartbeat

 

[Victim of Racism]

@ZemaPromos entire post....

Claiming that statements are without merit isn't proof. [DOUBLEPOST=1397576986][/DOUBLEPOST]

Irrelevant -


You're riding with and dapping up a dude that claimed this man has "fair" court vision.

Real talk, you're right. Lj has great vision. I was wrong. Sometimes stats just don't get it done. This is one of rare types of highlight videos that shows stats up.