So this is going to be the new knock on Kobe? Kobe never had a team filled with stars and coaches in their primes like Magic Johnson did, Larry Bird did, Jordan did, Lebron (with Miami) did and Shaq did. Kobe was a sidekick and since Shaq left Kobe had only ONE sidekick worthy of being an all-star.....Pau. Don't bing up oft injured Andrew Bynum, he didnt do anything in the 3 finals appearances and 2 finals wins. Kobe NOW has a "super" team full of amost Larry Holmes status players in himself,Pau, Artest and Nash. Howard is the only player who will there in 3 years. So in short, you are wrong.
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So this is going to be the new knock on Kobe? Kobe never had a team filled with stars and coaches in their primes like Magic Johnson did, Larry Bird did, Jordan did, Lebron (with Miami) did and Shaq did. Kobe was a sidekick and since Shaq left Kobe had only ONE sidekick worthy of being an all-star.....Pau. Don't bing up oft injured Andrew Bynum, he didnt do anything in the 3 finals appearances and 2 finals wins. Kobe NOW has a "super" team full of amost Larry Holmes status players in himself,Pau, Artest and Nash. Howard is the only player who will there in 3 years. So in short, you are wrong.
Ray Allen and Michael Redd both passed when Bron was locked up in his second deal. Artest and Sheed were both looking for short term deals anyway. Beyond that the fact that Bron was the only attractive thing about Cleveland doesn't exactly help matters. nikkas would go to LA if Kobe wasn't there. They'd go to MIA if Wade wasn't there. They would go to NY if Melo wasn't there.
2nd paragraph is complete truth
Gotta disagree with the bolded as well. It's time to acknowledge that Brons' criticism was all about hurt feelings and fear and just plain old fashioned hating. You are right...nobody gave a fukk about Cleveland, however many people tried to play the "poor Cleveland" card. I've said it a thousand times, if nikkas had such an issue with the nikka having a special they wouldn't have watched in record numbers. The Dwight situation is proof nikkas were full of it with Bron. nikkas acknowledge he acted like a bytch and yet the hue and cry and outrage over him going to LA was a mere fraction of a percent of what Bron got and died down almost immediately. Meanwhile Bron had to wear "The Decision" albatross around his neck for two years until he won. As I said then the issue was Bron having a special, or playing with stars, or leaving Cleveland it was all about him doing so in the wrong city. Now that he's won a ring nobody really gives a fukk though.
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Really, we make this right now? Bron is the man, he doesnt need anymore stroking
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But Kobe playing Dwight and Nash should count right? Shaq was only one year older than Kobe when he played with Amare and Nash.These shouldn't even count...nucca was sittin the bench half the season
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Kobe is suppose to win by himself. You didn't know that?
Lebron picked the ideal situation. He picked his teammates and team. Left a 60 win team to join a player that was top 3 at the time and another top 12 player. Doesn't even compare.
First of all did Mike really have a team FILLED with stars comparable to the 80's C's and Lakers?
Secondly why must people constantly downgrade that Lakers frontcourt with which Kobe won the last 2 titles? 
It wasn't about what any one of them did individually it was about what they did as group. No team could compete with all that size and versatility up front. Look no further than Dwight in 09. nikka went from shytting on the Cavs and avg. damn near 30 to struggling against the Laker length and avg. 15. Having 3 guys 6'10 and up all capable of putting up 20 and 10 and defending is nothing to minimalize. Kobe's been extremely fortunate throughout his career there is no denying that shyt. He's still a motherfukkin beast though so why do people feel the need to try to re-write history? He's more than proven himself.
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This is old news breh. Everybody Loves Bron now.
First of all did Mike really have a team FILLED with stars comparable to the 80's C's and Lakers?
1.I didn't compare Mike with other teams mention, I compared KOBE with other teams, so you bringing up Mike makes no sense at this moment. I know Kobe didnt have a team filled with stars like the Bulls or any other team I mentioned, which is what we are on right?
2.Who's downgrading Kobe's frontcourt? I stating that Pau was the only real all-star player Kobe had on his team until THIS YEAR. Bynum wasn't doing anything much in those 3 finals appearances, he was hurt most of the time. so who did Kobe have that was comparable to the teams I mentioned?
3.Yes punk ass Kobe was fortunate, (I never said he wasn't) but to say he was the most fortunate is wrong. Flat out wrong. Dudes up here will do anything thing to downgrade greatness. Look at what they did to Lebron, Duncan, KG, and AI. Hell, look at what they say about old dudes like Wilt and Kareem.
Brothers up here are dumb as shyt at times.
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Haters gonna hate.
Kobe is suppose to win by himself. You didn't know that?
Lebron picked the ideal situation. He picked his teammates and team. Left a 60 win team to join a player that was top 3 at the time and another top 12 player. Doesn't even compare.
This is the biggest hock of shyt there is about him leaving.
Niqqa...he took those wins with him, he didn't leave a 60 win team.
And niqqas have the nerve to say Lebron wasn't faulted for leaving Cleveland.
This post above shows how bullshyt it is to believe he wasn't criticized for leaving Cleveland.
1.I didn't compare Mike with other teams mention, I compared KOBE with other teams, so you bringing up Mike makes no sense at this moment. I know Kobe didnt have a team filled with the Bulls or any other team I mentioned, which is what we are on right?
2.Who's downgrading Kobe's frontcourt? I stating that Pau was the only real all-star player Kobe had on his team until THIS YEAR. Bynum wasn't doing anything much in those 3 finals appearances, he was hurt most of the time. so who did Kobe have that was comparable to the teams I mentioned?
3.Yes punk ass Kobe was fortunate, (I never said he wasn't) but to say he was the most fortunate is wrong. Flat out wrong. Dudes up here will do anything thing to downgrade greatness. Look at what they did to Lebron, Duncan, KG, and AI. Hell, look at what they say about old dudes like Wilt and Kareem.
1. That looks an awful lot like a comparison.
If you didn't intend for it to be that's fine however when you phrase a sentence like that there is no other real way to take it. 2. All-star appearance don't tell the whole story. Yeah Pau was the only all-star however if the other two guys weren't there they prolly don't win. The depth and versatility was key there. Beyond that they weren't playing against those teams you mentioned so how they stack up to them is immaterial. The issue is how they stacked up against the current competition and nobody was fukkin with that front court and Kobe. They were stacked by the standards of the era in which they played.
3. Saying he was fortunate does not downgrade him. Saying his fortune was the only reason he did some of the things he did as an indiviudal would be downgrading him and I don't see anyone doing that.
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Nobody hates Bron like that anymore.. and it wasnt really about the move, more about how he went about it. The Decision was a terrible, terrible idea... so was that parade.
Actually it was a great idea... And people that disagree will end up being on the wrong side of history...
How was it a 'great' idea? A press conference would have created just as much buzz and he wouldnt have come across looking like a jackass.
