LeBron James Injury : Lakers suffer devastating blow with major update (Unsubstantiated By US Media)

[Everythingg]

That was a pivot. It didnt change my point

You don’t have a point. All time greats are differentiated by the success they helped the team have. It’s why people put Duncan over Garnett and Malone though at their peaks all being similar. You ignored that point because it shows exactly why LeBron isn’t the greatest. He hasn’t been singled out by bad luck when it comes to being the ONLY player with a losing record in the finals...

 

[Everythingg]

His teammates werent being held back from their true value. That is the point.

He refuses to play in a structured offense and yes that type of thing holds back role players...

 

[NYC Rebel]

You don’t have a point. All time greats are differentiated by the success they helped the team have..

And Lebron didnt do that for the teams he played for?


DUMB

 

[NYC Rebel]

He refuses to play in a structured offense and yes that type of thing holds back role players...

And when those players played in structured offenses outside of Bron, what success did their teams have?

 

[SuperNintendo Chalmers]

How is this thread still going on?

 

[Karume]

You don’t have a point. All time greats are differentiated by the success they helped the team have. It’s why people put Duncan over Garnett and Malone though at their peaks all being similar. You ignored that point because it shows exactly why LeBron isn’t the greatest. He hasn’t been singled out by bad luck when it comes to being the ONLY player with a losing record in the finals...

Your own point also suggests LeBron greatness

 

[NYC Rebel]

There are NUMEROUS examples of all time GOATS being ON teams that couldn't best another. Wilt, West, Banks, Sanders, Moss, Marino.

shyt is just DUMB to act as if THEY are responsible for holding back their teams. That’s what it comes down to. Just dumb. Outright dumb

 

[LezJepzin]

He better play in Houston next Saturday.








Cause I'm going to the game

 

[Everythingg]

Your own point also suggests LeBron greatness

Never said he wasn’t great. Said he’s not the greatest. :comparison:

He’s below Jordan. Facts only

 

[Karume]

Never said he wasn’t great. Said he’s not the greatest. :comparison:

He’s below Jordan. Facts only

Opinion

 

[McPiff]

Besides the 07 spurs and the warriors after Durant, LeBron had the better team on paper every year. The only difference being the team he was going up against having a real offensive system while LeBrons teams only played Bron ball. That’s why the Cavs fell apart after he left. Because the team was solely built to fit around LeBron and his style of play

so '15 cavs without kyrie and love was better than the warriors?

Aight gotcha.

This bron ball shyt being thrown without context is stupid as hell but


The cavs fell off because the team wasnt that good in the first place. Bron ball or not.

 

[bl2k8]

Could the OP be right

 

[PS5 Pro]

If I could interject some sense here

You don’t have a point. All time greats are differentiated by the success they helped the team have. It’s why people put Duncan over Garnett and Malone though at their peaks all being similar. You ignored that point because it shows exactly why LeBron isn’t the greatest. He hasn’t been singled out by bad luck when it comes to being the ONLY player with a losing record in the finals...

As stated already your point goes in LeBron's favor because he single handily brings mediocre teams to the finals YOU ARE IGNORING THAT which is why some feel he is the greatest

2ndly you think LeBron is the only player with a losing record in the finals I guess Barkley, Ewing, Malone, Stockton, Payton & Kemp, literally a thousand more players but I'm assuming you're getting the point? The finals win/loss ratio does not tell the story. LeBron routinely wills teams that had no business making the playoffs to the finals. His first and last trips are super prime examples and beating THAT golden state team did put him in a new space amongst the greatest to ever do it. Unless you think his team could have kept it close without him?

 

[Everythingg]

And when those players played in structured offenses outside of Bron, what success did their teams have?

Well Jae Crowder wasnt playing well in Cleveland, went to Utah, and balled out last year.
Derrick Rose wasnt playing well in Cleveland, went to Minny, and is balling out
Dwayne Wade wasnt playing well in Cleveland, went to Miami, and single handedly won them a playoff game.

Its alot easier to play well when you dont get pushed out of rhythm by a player who wants to pound the ball for 20 seconds before passing or scoring....

 

[Everythingg]

And Lebron didnt do that for the teams he played for?


DUMB

He has a losing record in the finals tho? How is he the only one that has a losing record that is in the GOAT talks?