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That's 11 minutes of footage showing Kobe owning LeBron one on one.


Kudos to LeBron he's great at accumulating stats. And when Kobe and the Lakers became over the hill, he was able to rack up the Ws with his loaded Heat and Cavs teams.

But what you can't find for me is video showing LeBron actually showing up Kobe. And if you do find it, its probably one of two clips. The block in 2007 Team USA Scrimmage and the game winner over Kobe in 2008 game at Staples. Those are really the only 2 highlight plays LeBron has ever gotten on Kobe when they actually matched up in the games.

Kobe on the other hand has a plethora of highlights as you can see from the video above.
 
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i think this is where the "but but but 5 rangz!" comes in:mjgrin:

No. This is where I post 11 minutes of video footage showing Kobe destroying LeBron one on one throughout their careers.



This is the difference between us and Bron stans. We use our eyes to judge players. We actually watch the games. And from watching we form our opinions. I've watched every single LeBron/Kobe matchup since 2005. LeBron has never actually done anything against Kobe. He's done a lot against the Lakers mostly in the open court because of his athleticism. And he's a guy who gets a lot of screens, so he's scored on screens before. But when he's been matched up one on one against Kobe he's done NOTHING. Conversely when Kobe has had him one on one, Kobe's lit him up.

As I said earlier, I challenge any Bron stan to find 11 minutes of footage comparable to the one I posted above showing LeBron owning Kobe when they matched up one on one in their games. Find the video or shut the fukk up.

This is a good example of the difference between us and ya'll. Ya'll rely on these misleading stats to try and create a fiction that never existed. We use our eyes and actually watch the games and then state what happened. This video footage is proof that Kobe owned LeBron throughout his entire career whenever they matched up one on one. That is why we have 11 minutes of footage here while you guys have only one or two plays.
 

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No. This is where I post 11 minutes of video footage showing Kobe destroying LeBron one on one throughout their careers.



This is the difference between us and Bron stans. We use our eyes to judge players. We actually watch the games. And from watching we form our opinions. I've watched every single LeBron/Kobe matchup since 2005. LeBron has never actually done anything against Kobe. He's done a lot against the Lakers mostly in the open court because of his athleticism. And he's a guy who gets a lot of screens, so he's scored on screens before. But when he's been matched up one on one against Kobe he's done NOTHING. Conversely when Kobe has had him one on one, Kobe's lit him up.

As I said earlier, I challenge any Bron stan to find 11 minutes of footage comparable to the one I posted above showing LeBron owning Kobe when they matched up one on one in their games. Find the video or shut the fukk up.

This is a good example of the difference between us and ya'll. Ya'll rely on these misleading stats to try and create a fiction that never existed. We use our eyes and actually watch the games and then state what happened. This video footage is proof that Kobe owned LeBron throughout his entire career whenever they matched up one on one. That is why we have 11 minutes of footage here while you guys have only one or two plays.


that 6-16 head-to-head record is burning you alive inside:mjgrin: :umad:
 
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Already cited that one for you. I said LeBron has only 2 highlight plays on Kobe in his entire career. That game winner in 2008 in one of them. the other is the block during the team USA scrimmage in 2007.

It should be noted Kobe has also hit several game-winners and clutch shots on LeBron. In 2006, Kobe hit several clutch shots in the LeBron's face during the final minute to lead the Lakers to a come from behind victory against the Cavs. Then in 2007, during the Team USA scrimmage, Kobe hit several clutch shots in LeBron's face to lead his team to a victory over LeBron's. For the final play, LeBron was so humiliated that coach K asked Tayshaun Prince to guard Kobe instead. Kobe still hit the game-winner.
 
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that 6-16 head-to-head record is burning you alive inside:mjgrin: :umad:

Classic deflection tactic. This proves you lost already.

I post 11 minutes of footage showing Kobe owning LeBron and this is your only response?

You don't have anymore plays you can show us on video like the game winner from 2008? The same shot I cited before you posted saying that's one of only two plays LeBron ever got on Kobe? I mean if LeBron has been winning this matchups so handily, he obviously must have way more highlight plays on Kobe than Kobe has on him? Right?

Keep hiding behind fraudulent stats. I'll keep posting video footage and the first-hand account of NBA players that competed against both these guys.
 

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Already cited that one for you. I said LeBron has only 2 highlight plays on Kobe in his entire career. That game winner in 2008 in one of them. the other is the block during the team USA scrimmage in 2007.

It should be noted Kobe has also hit several game-winners and clutch shots on LeBron. In 2006, Kobe hit several clutch shots in the LeBron's face during the final minute to lead the Lakers to a come from behind victory against the Cavs. Then in 2007, during the Team USA scrimmage, Kobe hit several clutch shots in LeBron's face to lead his team to a victory over LeBron's. For the final play, LeBron was so humiliated that coach K asked Tayshaun Prince to guard Kobe instead. Kobe still hit the game-winner.
for all these accolades you'd think kobe would've found a way to beat lebron more than 6 times in 22 attempts:ehh:
 

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Those stats are misleading because most of them come from when Kobe was old and over the hill.

Lie. From 2003 to 2011, Kobe NEVER scored 30 points in a win against Lebron, not once. Not even against young Lebron, not even against those 7 years of crap supporting casts that Lebron had.




The rest of the them are also irrelevant cause Kobe and LeBron rarely guarded each other during those games. One was a SG the other a SF. The few times they matched up one on one, Kobe cooked him. as evidenced by the video above.

So who was shutting down Kobe in all those games? Delonte West? Sasha Pavlovic?

Come on now, tell me who was keeping Kobe's points down so much? :mjgrin:

It's easy to make a highlight video of shots made when Kobe shoots 20+ times a game. What the highlight video doesn't show is him missing 3 shots for every 2 that he made.


LeBron is a great open court player and when he gets screens. So most of the time he scores its not on Kobe. Kobe on the other hand is a great one on one player. So when he scores its typically on his man without the need for screens.

LeBron has no highlights against Kobe cause he needs screens to get off. Kobe has 11 minutes of one on one highlights against LeBron cause he don't need screens to destroy a defender.

Maybe he should look for more screens then, if he's only averaging 24ppg on 41% shooting and losing 80% of the time. :lolbron:

Typical Kobestan argument. "Yes, he was inefficient, but he did it the HARD way, like a man!" :pachaha:
 

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Men Lie....Women lie....VIDEO DON'T



That's 11 minutes of footage showing Kobe owning LeBron one on one.


Kudos to LeBron he's great at accumulating stats. And when Kobe and the Lakers became over the hill, he was able to rack up the Ws with his loaded Heat and Cavs teams.

But what you can't find for me is video showing LeBron actually showing up Kobe. And if you do find it, its probably one of two clips. The block in 2007 Team USA Scrimmage and the game winner over Kobe in 2008 game at Staples. Those are really the only 2 highlight plays LeBron has ever gotten on Kobe when they actually matched up in the games.

Kobe on the other hand has a plethora of highlights as you can see from the video above.


The only reason there's not video compilations of Bron scoring on Kobe is that Bron stans aren't pathetic enough to trawl through footage to look for individual scoring highlights. LeBron has a winning record against Kobe during Kobe's prime ('04-'10) and that's even including Bron as a rookie on a WOAT roster :mjlol:

Counting Team USA scrimmages :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

This flat earther :gucci:

Average lower in every stat against Bron and claim he's cooking him brehs
 

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No. This is where I post 11 minutes of video footage showing Kobe destroying LeBron one on one throughout their careers.



I tried to watch your video and gave up at 1:30 when they were still showing replays of the 2nd play. :bryan:

Yeah, easy as hell to make an 11-minute highlight video of a 30 game rivalry when you only show 1 highlight per minute. :dead:



Here is an 11 minute highlight video of Lebron styling on the Lakers, ALL before 2010 so you can't use that "old Kobe" excuse, and less than half as many games to work with (all before prime Lebron) than your weak video.

Not all of the highlights are on Kobe, but more than enough are to make it a lot more plays than your slow-ass play-a-minute video. :umad:

 
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Lie. From 2003 to 2011, Kobe NEVER scored 30 points in a win against Lebron, not once. Not even against young Lebron, not even against those 7 years of crap supporting casts that Lebron had.

That's kind of a random qualifier. So Kobe did score 30 in some games, they just happened to be losses. While in the games they did win, he scored less than 30. So what?

So who was shutting down Kobe in all those games? Delonte West? Sasha Pavlovic?

Come on now, tell me who was keeping Kobe's points down so much? :mjgrin:

It's easy to make a highlight video of shots made when Kobe shoots 20+ times a game. What the highlight video doesn't show is him missing 3 shots for every 2 that he made.

LeBron's teams (both in Cleveland and Miami) usually double team and trap the star player on the other side forcing the other guys to beat them. So no one individual stopped Kobe. They just doubled and tripled him every game and as was typical back then when Kobe had a weak supporting cast, his teammates didn't make the defense pay for employing this strategy.



Maybe he should look for more screens then, if he's only averaging 24ppg on 41% shooting and losing 80% of the time. :lolbron:

Typical Kobestan argument. "Yes, he was inefficient, but he did it the HARD way, like a man!" :pachaha:

Kobe's not a bytch. He ain't gonna use screens. He's a one on one player. He even waved off Karl Malone once in an all-star game. Its insulting for a player of his talent to call for a screen.
 
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The only reason there's not video compilations of Bron scoring on Kobe is that Bron stans aren't pathetic enough to trawl through footage to look for individual scoring highlights. LeBron has a winning record against Kobe during Kobe's prime ('04-'10) and that's even including Bron as a rookie on a WOAT roster :mjlol:

Counting Team USA scrimmages :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

This flat earther :gucci:

Average lower in every stat against Bron and claim he's cooking him brehs

Actually no. Bron stans are even more pathetic. The reason they can't put together a video like that is because IT CAN'T EXIST. The footage simply does not exist. LeBron James has only 2 highlight plays against Kobe in his entire career. And I cited both of them for you. 2007 Team USA scrimmage chase down block on Kobe. 2008 game winner over Kobe in Staples. That's it.

Kobe on the other hand has 11 minutes of footage as you can see.

That's because Kobe is a one on one player. When he scores, its typically because he's embrassed his opponent with a sick move. LeBron (as he's said himself many times) is not a one on one player. He scores off fast breaks, catch n shoot, and screen and drives. He's never going to have one on one highlight plays against his opponent. His style of play is not as mano y mano as Kobe. He's more of a product of the team game. While Kobe is a product of his own skill and ability.

This is a major reason all of their peers say Kobe is better. When you're playing or watching, Kobe's greatness is easy to see because he's so dominant as a one on one player. He embarrasses people every time he scores. LeBron's impact on the game can't be seen as easily as Kobe. That why his stans have to rely on the stat sheet.
 
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Not all of the highlights are on Kobe, but more than enough are to make it a lot more plays than your slow-ass play-a-minute video. :umad:



STOP LYING. None of them are on Kobe. I couldn't take more than 3 minutes of this crap. But after 3 minutes all I saw was the one block from the team USA scrimmage I told you about already. And then a whole bunch of points being scored on Lamar Odom. Then a bunch of points being scored on fast breaks and off screens.

Stop embarrassing yourself. I asked for video footage of LeBron on Kobe. Not LeBron on Lamar Odom.
 

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LeBron's teams (both in Cleveland and Miami) usually double team and trap the star player on the other side forcing the other guys to beat them. So no one individual stopped Kobe. They just doubled and tripled him every game and as was typical back then when Kobe had a weak supporting cast, his teammates didn't make the defense pay for employing this strategy.

Yeah they doubled him because he's such a ballhog that they knew he'd toss up a brick even in double and triple teams instead of hitting the open man. LeBron makes defenses pay regularly for double-teaming with his passing.

Kobe's not a bytch. He ain't gonna use screens. He's a one on one player. He even waved off Karl Malone once in an all-star game. Its insulting for a player of his talent to call for a screen.

Playing smart basketball = being a bytch :mjlol:
Losing 16 times out of 22 = alpha :mjlol:

It's a bytch to use screens, but not to have Odom and Artest guard Bron defensively for the vast majority of plays? :mjgrin:

Bron guarded Kobe often during those games, on the way to a dominant winning record and awful shooting efficency by Kobe.

Question: Is the Earth flat? :mjgrin:
 

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That's kind of a random qualifier. So Kobe did score 30 in some games, they just happened to be losses. While in the games they did win, he scored less than 30. So what?

Meaning that Kobe NEVER won a game by scoring a lot on Lebron. The rare game he won, it was his teammates that carried the scoring load.



LeBron's teams (both in Cleveland and Miami) usually double team and trap the star player on the other side forcing the other guys to beat them. So no one individual stopped Kobe. They just doubled and tripled him every game and as was typical back then when Kobe had a weak supporting cast, his teammates didn't make the defense pay for employing this strategy.

Bullshyt about a "weak supporting cast".

The first win Kobe got against Lebron, he was still in LA and barely even played with his teammates beating Cleveland and rookie Lebron on their own.

From 2005-2007, he had a weak supporting cast but so did Lebron. The Lakers beat Cleveland in 2005 with Kobe only playing 6 minutes and Lebron playing 44, so stop this bullshyt about the supporting cast being the reason Kobe was losing. In the games

Next five games where Kobe actually played, Lebron won 4 out of 5, even though Lebron's supporting cast sucked too.

From 2008-2010, when Kobe had a better supporting cast than Lebron, Lebron went 4-2 against him, and Kobe only averaged 19.5ppg in the two wins.

From 2010-2016, Lebron was 12-2 against Kobe, even though Kobe had a squad for the first three years of that stretch.



Kobe's not a bytch. He ain't gonna use screens. He's a one on one player. He even waved off Karl Malone once in an all-star game. Its insulting for a player of his talent to call for a screen.

Kobe fans are embarrassing themselves. :russ:



STOP LYING. None of them are on Kobe. I couldn't take more than 3 minutes of this crap. But after 3 minutes all I saw was the one block from the team USA scrimmage I told you about already. And then a whole bunch of points being scored on Lamar Odom. Then a bunch of points being scored on fast breaks and off screens.

Stop embarrassing yourself. I asked for video footage of LeBron on Kobe. Not LeBron on Lamar Odom.

Just in that first three minutes after the timestamp the video started on, Lebron had the block on Kobe, an and-1 on Kobe, beat Kobe at the three-point line and scored inside, harassed Kobe into a bricked three, and ripped the ball from Kobe when he went up for a shot.

You apparently didn't actually watch three minutes of video. :mjgrin:
 
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