LeBron James should NOT get a pass for losing to a team with 4 All-Stars

[SwagKingKong]

Actually all the games were competitive except for game 6. And if the Lakers didn't blow a 20+ point lead in game 4, they head to Boston up 3-2 rather than down 3-2.

ol "if the Lakers didn't do this they would've done that"

Their game 6 loss was the largest loss in NBA history when it comes to a championship clinching game

The loss was the 2nd largest margin of victory in NBA finals history smh

 

[Swagnificent]

See those are opinions I'm about facts

The tracking and compilation of certain arbitrary metrics are not facts. They are just numbers. Numbers that at some point were decided by someone to be tracked. And numbers don't tell us anything more than we can ascertain by using our own two eyes to watch the games.

The experience of guys who compete with these players day in day out on the court is more telling. If stats really were dispositive is guaging whether one player is better than another, then wouldn't the players be able to pick up on that?

The one thing we do know for sure is that almost every player who has competed against or watched Kobe and LeBron says Kobe is better. IMO that counts for a lot more than a bunch of arbitrary metrics.

 

[SwagKingKong]

proved yourself to be an idiot.

Curry is garbage compared to those guys. Stop playing yourself.

You're the idiot. I'm a Boston fan and the biggest KG supporter you'll find. But you're arguing that an out of prime KG,on one knee is better than prime / peak Curry

 

[Swagnificent]

ol "if the Lakers didn't do this they would've done that"

Their game 6 loss was the largest loss in NBA history when it comes to a championship clinching game

The loss was the 2nd largest margin of victory in NBA finals history smh

There were still 5 games played before that one and all 5 were competitive. And in one of their losses (game 4), the Lakers held a 20+ point lead.

 

[Swagnificent]

You're the idiot. I'm a Boston fan and the biggest KG supporter you'll find. But you're arguing that an out of prime KG,on one knee is better than prime / peak Curry

Steph Curry is a horrible basketball player so it wouldn't be asking for too much to be better than him.

Gimme Rajon Rondo anyday over this scrub that hides on defense.

 

[Darealtwo1]

Get help bruh. You made this thread at 5:30am.

 

[brother walt]

Kobe was the same age or around the same age as kg/Paul/ray and they competed more than the lakers after 2010 so stop it. Pau was the only all star on that lakers.

Either way when Lebron gets swept or lose in 5, he is officially out of the GOAT conversation so that's all that matters

If he is out Kobe was never in it since LEBRON IS OVER HIM IN EVERY CATEGORY

The tracking and compilation of certain arbitrary metrics are not facts. They are just numbers. Numbers that at some point were decided by someone to be tracked. And numbers don't tell us anything more than we can ascertain by using our own two eyes to watch the games.

The experience of guys who compete with these players day in day out on the court is more telling. If stats really were dispositive is guaging whether one player is better than another, then wouldn't the players be able to pick up on that?

The one thing we do know for sure is that almost every player who has competed against or watched Kobe and LeBron says Kobe is better. IMO that counts for a lot more than a bunch of arbitrary metrics.

HOW? I CAN SAY VICK IS THE GREATEST QB EVER AND THEN TO DISAPPROVE ME SOMEONE WILL BRING UP NUMBERS. I CAN ALSO SAY IM THE RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD THEN SOMEONE WILL BRING UP MY BANK ACCOUNT NUMBERS IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE PROVED NOT WORDS

 

[ManBearPig]

Ray Allen wasn't an All Star that year dumbass

but when he was one when he faced the Lakers, he damn near won the FMVP courtesy of Kobe

 

[SwagKingKong]

There were still 5 games played before that one and all 5 were competitive. And in one of their losses (game 4), the Lakers held a 20+ point lead.

All these mental gymnastics breh

Lakers margin of victory in their two wins: 5.5 points per game
Celtics margin of vicotry in their four wins: 15.25 points per game

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

If he is out Kobe was never in it since LEBRON IS OVER HIM IN EVERY CATEGORY


HOW? I CAN SAY VICK IS THE GREATEST QB EVER AND THEN TO DISAPPROVE ME SOMEONE WILL BRING UP NUMBERS. I CAN ALSO SAY IM THE RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD THEN SOMEONE WILL BRING UP MY BANK ACCOUNT NUMBERS IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE PROVED NOT WORDS

And will never be more respected than kobe, lost more than kobe, and will never be Jordan andddd he bout to have 5 final loses

 

[sfgiants]

Kevin love does not count as an all star.

King James gets a pass

Already better than in my book.

The GOAT athletes ever:

CR7
Messi
Jeter
King James
Brady

blocked for being a fakkit and a vegan
edit: i'm talking about
@DStyles

 

[brother walt]

And will never be more respected than kobe, lost more than kobe, and will never be Jordan andddd he bout to have 5 final loses

WHEN HAS 2 BEEN MORE THAN 3 LEBRON WINS THERE AND IS IT BETTER TO GET THERE AND LOSE OR NEVER GOTTEN THERE

 

[Swagnificent]

If he is out Kobe was never in it since LEBRON IS OVER HIM IN EVERY CATEGORY


HOW? I CAN SAY VICK IS THE GREATEST QB EVER AND THEN TO DISAPPROVE ME SOMEONE WILL BRING UP NUMBERS. I CAN ALSO SAY IM THE RICHEST PERSON IN THE WORLD THEN SOMEONE WILL BRING UP MY BANK ACCOUNT NUMBERS IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE PROVED NOT WORDS

Well here is your fallacy. You assume stats are actually a measure of greatness on the court. They are not. We have seen countless players put up empty stats because of the system they play in. Russell Westbrook just put up arguably the greatest statistical season ever. Does that make it the best season ever by a player? Or did he play on a team and have a system that allowed him to stockpile a bunch of empty stats?

Your bank account is an objective measure of your wealth. Arbitrary numbers on a stat sheet are not an objective measure of a player's impact on the game. Anyone with half a brain knows this. That is why the saying is "the tape don't lie." Not "the box score don't lie."

Plus like I said earlier, if the box is someone an actual measure of greatness, then how come almost every player says Kobe is better than LeBron?

 

[brother walt]

Well here is your fallacy. You assume stats are actually a measure of greatness on the court. They are not. We have seen countless players put up empty stats because of the system they play in. Russell Westbrook just put up arguably the greatest statistical season ever. Does that make it the best season ever by a player? Or did he play on a team and have a system that allowed him to stockpile a bunch of empty stats?

Your bank account is an objective measure of your wealth. Arbitrary numbers on a stat sheet are not an objective measure of a player's impact on the game. Anyone with half a brain knows this. That is why the saying is "the tape don't lie." Not "the box score don't lie."

Plus like I said earlier, if the box is someone an actual measure of greatness, then how come almost every player says Kobe is better than LeBron?

MAYBE BECAUSE HE THEY ERA AND NO ONE WANTS TO GIVE PROPS TO A DIFFRENT ERA ASK KYRIE NOW WHO BETTER I BET ITS A DIFFRENT ANSWER OR MAYBE THEY DONT LIKE LEBRON SAYING SOMEONE IS BETTER IS OBJECTIVE NUMBERS NOT IF ME AND U GO IN A RING AND BOX AND AFTER 3 ROUNDS HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW WHO WON

 

[Swagnificent]

All these mental gymnastics breh

Lakers margin of victory in their two wins: 5.5 points per game
Celtics margin of vicotry in their four wins: 15.25 points per game

Dude. We have the internet. We can look up the scores. 2008 NBA Finals - Wikipedia

Every game except game 6 was competitive. All were within 10 points or less. Game 1 was the second biggest margin of that series when the Celtics won by 10 points.

That was a tight series outside of game 6. If the Lakers don't blow that huge lead in game 4, who knows what happens.