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Lol...if Lebron is stat padding,then so is every top 20 player in the league....You haters are funny.When Lebron puts up monster numbers,"He's stat padding".....But when he shares the ball,"He's being passive"
Be smart dumb, brehs.
 

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I’ll put it like this, it’s like a kid getting bullied in school or maybe he has a problem with a treacher or maybe classes are too hard or for whatever reason things aren’t working out it that school so he begs his parents to switch schools

Matter fact, he decides he wants to go to a new school in a new state so he can be more popular, improve his grades..... etc or whatever

He doesn’t care that his parents have to move to a new city, get a new job.

He’s doesn’t care that all his old friends at the old school will miss him or that maybe he has projects and coursework with them that was unfinished

He just leaves and doesn’t look back because he wants to improve HIS life and he couldn’t deal with the problems at his old school.

This is Lebron in the NBA.

If things don’t work out in the NEW school he’ll just convince his parents to move him again.

Yea sounds like a great plan to me, cause you get to start over fresh every time you
Move and even upgrade your life.

I even knew kid like that growing up and I don’t know how he got away with it :yeshrug:


What’s even crazier is how Lebron keeps getting away with it :banderas:

Actually, he gets away with it BECAUSE he’s Lebron:wow:

I don’t wanna sound like I’m hating on Lebron. I just hold him to a different standard if he wants to be considered the GOAT.

And my point will always remain
that Lebron is still losing more than winning even with these stacked teams :manny:

So what is he really gaining?
You would have had it if you reached a bit more
 

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sorry but lebron is not able to galvanize a group and you are making excuses.
especially for lebron.
as real talk,...michael jordan's bulls were never as good as lebron's teams ever on paper.
michael galvanized the group through leadership play, at sg, and also,..THE POINT GUARD POSITION!!

so, all the talk you make of this and bron wasn't never capable to beat the spurs is complete bullshyt.
on top of complete excuse making.
michael jordan was the complete underdog against any and every team he faced in the finals.
plus had a losing track record versus any and every team in the final round as well.
to the point those teams owned the bulls every time every season.
including never having any light at the end of the tunnell to ever even actually be competitive.
so spare me all your captain save a shyt and excuse making for lebron.
lebron is not capable of doing or elevating a group if things do not fit into his narrative of comfort, period.
which results in him being passive and also a stat padder to cover up this lacking behavior.
you can try to cover it up however you want and deflect however you want.
yet, you also have and do not know my commentary on andrew wiggins and him being a euro.
as, far as ferocity level to the domestic game, being from canada.
plus the idea and complete fact a euro has to gain ferocity in the domestic game
so once again just like your lebron comments being not fully well versed.
you are once again speaking and not well versed on me, and my thoughts about andrew wiggins and ferocity.
of which from your response also shows lebron is passive and incapable.
as you are actually admitting lebron is not able to galvanize and would not be able to galvanize the most pedigreed backcourt in history as well.

so you are proving me right and yourself wrong across the board in this discussion.


now, if you need links for me to further expose.
you don't know wtf you talembout as far as me and wiggins i can do so.
if you wanna further explore the rabbit hole called you were completely and factually WRONG, as well.

art barr

So let me get this straight. Michael Jordan beats the 07 Spurs with a lineup of

Booby Gibson
Larry Hughes
Drew Gooden
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

And so what if Wiggins is a “euro” so is Jamal Murray...that nikka brings it. Steve Nash was a “euro” he brought the heat.

Doesn’t matter where you’re from it’s either you have it or not. Maybe you’re thinking MJ could have “pippened” Wiggins. But we don’t know that as fact.

Either way you’re wrong about Bron not fulfilling his potential of being “undefeated in the championship rounds” because his squad was severely undermaned.

Pick a player out of the all time top 5. Anyone...not one of them is beating a team as good as the 2007 Spurs with that Cavs starting lineup.
 

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So let me get this straight. Michael Jordan beats the 07 Spurs with a lineup of

Booby Gibson
Larry Hughes
Drew Gooden
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

And so what if Wiggins is a “euro” so is Jamal Murray...that nikka brings it. Steve Nash was a “euro” he brought the heat.

Doesn’t matter where you’re from it’s either you have it or not. Maybe you’re thinking MJ could have “pippened” Wiggins. But we don’t know that as fact.

Either way you’re wrong about Bron not fulfilling his potential of being “undefeated in the championship rounds” because his squad was severely undermaned.

Pick a player out of the all time top 5. Anyone...not one of them is beating a team as good as the 2007 Spurs with that Cavs starting lineup.


Again those players on paper have a higher pedigree than the bulls players in general.
Not to mention, lebron created why he lost because he would not play his natural.
So again, aLL your excuse making for lebron falls on deaf ears.
Simply because in general principal based on sound bball IQ.
Every night lebron shirked his natural he gave up a nightly mismatch. So miss me with your dumb bullshyt excuse making for this selfishly wack ass nikka, lebron.
As you are a fool to think the most pedigreed backcourt in NBA history is being beaten in general in a final round.
Plus, you are also admitting the fact lebron can not galvanize a grassroots group of players, when the drawing opponent is readily staffed to dispatch lebron. Which is totally different from mj.
Mj galvanized and ramped up jud buechler and bill wennington to compare and show you how wrong you are.

Any pedigreed coach would generally beat a team that on purpose shirks their nightly mismatch.

Simple as that.

You can deflect and talk abunch of bullshyt.
Plus Wiggins is a higher pedigreed and better player than Murray and Wiggins has ferocity and assertive issues. Which is from being a complete euro ostracized from whom his dad is. While Murray is the second Gen talent who did not have to flirt below the radar in development because of whom and what act his parents did.
Outside of that Murray is not on Wiggins level and if he was, he would be touted like Wiggins. yet he is not and is also a second Gen star and also did not have to be behind the radar because of whom or what his father may have or not done.

As far as pedigree and the finals.
I know the pedigree and IQ required to beat real pedigreed coaching and it is obvious lebron does not. Any fully pedigreed properly staffed coach can beat and has beat lebron shirk'n his natural.
Nobody would beat lebron if he actually studied film of magic.
Plus, bron actually had not of stunted his growth and shirked his natural.

Now you can make excuses but that is a fact.

as you completely skimmed and don't know the makeup of the finals from a pedigree standpoint. As mj beat every team on paper who was better than the bulls.

So mike would in that general idea beat the spurs regardless of lineup, too.

As the spurs not shyt to no trailblazers, or magic's hobbled Lakers.
If the spurs was the shyt,....they would have won before a shortened strike year, when mike was playing.
Plus would have a full season rubrick to use to win a title. Which is why pop teams always sneakily win a title.
as pops jags a portion of the year.
to get the spurs back within the same sample arena of games.
that the spurs won the title in a shortened season.
That is why the spurs whole thing about rest is subterfuge.
As the whole rest thing is just deflection to hide the fact.
the championship sweet spot for the spurs is based on the rubrick of a shortened season.

So again miss me with the bullshyt. The spurs would not even be there if not for a shortened season. Plus, Duncan was never more ferocious than the admiral and even in that. The spurs were never there.
when mike was there to even honor them as a threat to mike in a final round as well.




Art Barr

Trade away multiple attempts at getting a three peat, breh.
 
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Again those players on paper have a higher pedigree than the bulls players in general.
Not to mention, lebron created why he lost because he would not play his natural.
So again, LL your excuse making for lebron falls on deaf ears.
Simply because in general principal based on sound bball IQ.
Every night lebron shirked his natural he gave up a nightly mismatch. So miss me with your dumb bullshyt excuse making for this selfishly wack ass nikka, lebron.

Any pedigreed coach would generally beat a team that on purpose shirks their nightly mismatch.

Simple as that.

You can deflect and talk abunch of bullshyt yet I know the pedgree and IQ required to beat real pedigreed coaching and it is obvious lebron does not. Any fully pedigreed properly staffed coach can beat and has beat lebron shirk'n his natural.
Nobody would beat lebron if he actually studied film of magic a d he actually had not of stunted his growth and shirked his natural.

Now you can make excuses but that is a fact.

as you completely skimmed and don't know the makeup of the finals from a pedigree standpoint. As mj bewt every team on paper who was better than the bulls.

So mike would in that general idea beat the spurs regardless of lineup, too.

As the spurs not shyt to no trailblazers, or magic's hobbled Lakers.
If the spurs was the shyt,....they would have won before a shortened strike year, when mike was playing.
Plus would have a full season rubrick to use to win a title. Which is why pop teams always sneakily win a title.
as pops jags a portion of the year to get the spurs back within the same sample arena of games.
that the spurs won the title in a shortened season.
That is why the spurs whole thing about rest is subterfuge.
As the whole rest thing is just deflection to hide the fact.
the championship sweet spot for the spurs is based on the rubrick of a shortened season.

So again miss me with thwle bullshyt. The spurs would not even be there if not for a shortened season. Plus, Duncan was never more ferocious than the admiral and even in that. The spurs were never there when mike was there to even honor them as a threat to mike in a final round as well.




Art Barr

Bron’s game isn’t just Magic. He’s also a scoring machine. So why should he just play like Magic when he’s the best offensive threat on the floor 90% of the time.

And even if he did “play his natural” those players around him in 07 weren’t good enough to elevate past
San Antonio in any case.

No matter what he did they weren’t going to beat the Spurs.
 

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Bron’s game isn’t just Magic. He’s also a scoring machine. So why should he just play like Magic when he’s the best offensive threat on the floor 90% of the time.

And even if he did “play his natural” those players around him in 07 weren’t good enough to elevate past
San Antonio in any case.

No matter what he did they weren’t going to beat the Spurs.

He’s only a real threat this year cause he’s finally shooting well outside

Otherwise he’d be a liability

Great pure scores are players like Curry Durant Harden Lillard etc
 

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Bron’s game isn’t just Magic. He’s also a scoring machine. So why should he just play like Magic when he’s the best offensive threat on the floor 90% of the time.

And even if he did “play his natural” those players around him in 07 weren’t good enough to elevate past
San Antonio in any case.

No matter what he did they weren’t going to beat the Spurs.


Lebron has no general bball IQ in general despite luck of roster and circumstance.
to best a fully pedigreed NBA coach consistently in a final round.
While alternatively Michael Jordan beat every team that was better than him in every single way in the final round.
Without ever reaching a final elimination during the high IQ era.

You are making excuses.
Plus, Michael Jordan was better at the pg and lebron natural position than bron at pg as well.



These are facts.


Lrbron has no facts in his favor to usurp or challenge being the goat.

Only delusaional homer dookie eating fans from Cleveland.
try that doomed to fail dikk licking of lebron in the goat convo. Of which lebron does not qualify for being the goat at all.


Art Barr
 

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Lebron has no general bball IQ in general despite luck of roster and circumstance.
to best a fully pedigreed NBA coach consistently in a final round.
While alternatively Michael Jordan beat every team that was better than him in every single way in the final round.
Without ever reaching a final elimination during the high IQ era.

You are making excuses.
Plus, Michael Jordan was better at the pg and lebron natural position than bron at pg as well.



These are facts.


Lrbron has no facts in his favor to usurp or challenge being the goat.

Only delusaional homer dookie eating fans from Cleveland.
try that doomed to fail dikk licking of lebron in the goat convo. Of which lebron does not qualify for being the goat at all.


Art Barr

:pachaha:Aight my nikka
 

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Lebron has no general bball IQ in general despite luck of roster and circumstance.
to best a fully pedigreed NBA coach consistently in a final round.
While alternatively Michael Jordan beat every team that was better than him in every single way in the final round.
Without ever reaching a final elimination during the high IQ era.

You are making excuses.
Plus, Michael Jordan was better at the pg and lebron natural position than bron at pg as well.



These are facts.


Lrbron has no facts in his favor to usurp or challenge being the goat.

Only delusaional homer dookie eating fans from Cleveland.
try that doomed to fail dikk licking of lebron in the goat convo. Of which lebron does not qualify for being the goat at all.


Art Barr
No way that 2007 roster was more pedigreed than mj’s And mj’s Team was considered the favorite, even without him they were a bad call away from making the finals and won 55 games. Which cavs roster is winning 55 games w/o lbj?
 

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Lol...if Lebron is stat padding,then so is every top 20 player in the league....You haters are funny.When Lebron puts up monster numbers,"He's stat padding".....But when he shares the ball,"He's being passive"
Remember when nikkas got mad instead of making a contested shot he threw it to a WIDE OPEN Kyle Korver in then corner . They said lebron didn’t have “mamba mentality” or some dumb shyt:snoop:
 

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No way that 2007 roster was more pedigreed than mj’s And mj’s Team was considered the favorite, even without him they were a bad call away from making the finals and won 55 games. Which cavs roster is winning 55 games w/o lbj?


You talking in revision and after said team was dispatched. Before that the bulls were food for all the top hw west coast teams:

Houston
San Antonio
Portland
La lakers
Utah jazz
Phx

All those teams owned the bulls, at home and the road.
Before mike beat those teams.
There was no rubrick, or background that the bulls had to fall back on to be successful. As previously the bulls were food to all those west coast teams.
Trying to say different I know you were not there in rea time and I know you never saw the bulls like that before those finals.
The whole try to paint the bulls roster as a juggernaut was a lie.
They were a unit who ramped in the moment. Whom somehow got wind beneath their wings to play up.
Those bulls teams were not on a damn thing, like that as far as individual talent. The bulls were outclassed on paper generally.
nikkaz trying to rewrite Krause acquisitions like some world beaters when they were a bean counter based decision relying on Michael to impose his will and work said group up.
Yousa complete lie to make it like the bulls were this talented bunch.
The entire roster played up and all were ramped by Jordan outside of Horace, paxson, Dennis and byson. All those other players had to be ramped up for whatever variable by Jordan.
We can play the buster bulls roster game, all day.

Wanna play, cause real talk.
All this the bulls were great without Jordan is pr buildup to strip power away from whom Jordan was. Jordan worked all that shyt up, from Phil to pip to the bulls. Only bulls independently who had confidence since day one to produce with Jordan were only:

Grant
Paxson
Cook : Byson dele [rip]
Dennis


All this overprocessing of the bulls roster is to tongue and cheek strip power away from Jordan.


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You talking in revision and after said team was dispatched. Before that the bulls were food for all the top hw west coast teams:

Houston
San Antonio
Portland
La lakers
Utah jazz
Phx

All those teams owned the bulls, at home and the road.
Before mike beat those teams.
There was no rubrick, or background that the bulls had to fall back on to be successful. As previously the bulls were food to all those west coast teams.
Trying to say different I know you were not there in rea time and I know you never saw the bulls like that before those finals.
The whole try to paint the bulls roster as a juggernaut was a lie.
They were a unit who ramped in the moment. Whom somehow got wind beneath their wings to play up.
Those bulls teams were not on a damn thing, like that as far as individual talent. The bulls were outclassed on paper generally.
nikkaz trying to rewrite Krause acquisitions like some world beaters when they were a bean counter based decision relying on Michael to impose his will and work said group up.
Yousa complete lie to make it like the bulls were this talented bunch.
The entire roster played up and all were ramped by Jordan outside of Horace, paxson, Dennis and byson. All those other players had to be ramped up for whatever variable by Jordan.
We can play the buster bulls roster game, all day.

Wanna play, cause real talk.
All this the bulls were great without Jordan is pr buildup to strip power away from whom Jordan was. Jordan worked all that shyt up, from Phil to pip to the bulls. Only bulls independently who had confidence since day one to produce with Jordan were only:

Grant
Paxson
Cook : Byson dele [rip]
Dennis


All this overprocessing of the bulls roster is to tongue and cheek strip power away from Jordan.


Art Barr
So he had four dudes who could make something happen.. that 2007 squad had nothing bro.
 
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