Lebron passed Kobe as the youngest ever to score 29K points

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I'm going to be real, I just watched the 57 point highlight game and thats how he should always be playing
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Lebron is dope and that's impressive but all of the fans impressed by stats and not being a winner is ruining the game

when Oscar was the only dude doing triple double shyt on average it was fukk him
its funny how stats only matter when they match your narrative :russ:

Like someone said, Lebron is just gifted with size and athleticism... same with Shaq, who was really not good at shyt besides overpowering people and spinning off with his elbow
LeBron got 3 rings in the last 6 years how is that not winning? If that's not winning then what is?
 

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Your proving a portion of my point. He has had more time as the #1 option and only one more FMVP than kobe. You keep saying “rings” like he got a bunch more than kobe. He’s been to 7 straight finals and 8 total in his career, and only managed one more FMVP than kobe even though he has more time as the #1 option, I’m suppose to be impressed? Duncan has 3 FMVPs and we still talk shyt about him, so idk what made you think lebrons 3 would be any different and speaking of Duncan, not to drag him in this, but he has one more FMVPs than Kareem. Who is putting Duncan ahead of Kareem as a all time champion? Not many.

Question, If he had 5 FMVPS, then would Jordan’s 6 still look impressive? No, In fact Jordan’s 6 for 6 would lose value if Lebron was that close behind him.

As far as Scottie is concerned if you want to say Scottie was the better winner as a #2, matter afact you would be right.

But no, Lebron doesn’t have more ringS as the main guy, adding the S would apply he has more than one FMVP which he doesn’t. Lebron as the main guy is 3-5 in the finals, soon to be 3-6 if he even makes it this year. So the fact that you speak like Lebron was this super great leader that kobe wasn’t is making me crack up and you do this often. He puts up better numbers and lost, he has one more FMVP than kobe, he will end his career below 500% in finals so no matter how you flip the script, I’m not impressed. He should have 2-3 more than kobe based on the hype.

And All of your post does nothing but reinforces why people feel the way they do about Lebron. He’s not even the greatest champion of his own era. Duncan and Kobe are still ahead of him and in fact, if we use that #1 option tactic, he’s still behind Duncan and only one ahead of kobe. There could be 100 reasons why anybody would believe Lebron is ahead of kobe, rings and FMVPs ain’t one of them because if soWhy do people say Lebron is better than jordan? which is why I mentioned him

Jordan has 6 FMVP
Lebron only 3
Jordan has 5 mvps
Lebron, 4

But somehow the media tried to create this “Bron is goat” narrative. If we allow that, than no, Lebron as the “main guy” only has one more FMVP than kobe, where as Jordan has 3 more than Lebron as the “main” guy. By your logic, why Lebron in the same sentence as Jordan? You know, since having more finals mvps mean so much?

But let’s be real though, you harp on this #1 option cause that’s the only thing you could say. Robert horry, Kenny the Jet, and many others bragged about theyre rings when they weren’t first options

Shaq also brags about all 4 when he wasn’t the first option for his 4th.
KG bragged about his ring. Scottie has talked about his 6 rings too.
All of them have whether they were the 1st, 2nd or 5th option.

Now you could rewrite all of why Lebron has done sooooo much more as the 1st option in the finals than kobe, with only one finals mvp more than him, I will repeat the same thing so don’t waste your(really mines) time.


Spin it all you want breh, Kobe is trash in the finals

He wasn't the best player for the majority of his rings,

Shaq carried him in the finals

Kobe wasnt even the best player in his first FIVE finals series 2000-2002 , 2004, 2008. Wasn't the best player in any of em :yeshrug:

Cp3 deserved his only struggle MVP
 

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Spin it all you want breh, Kobe is trash in the finals

He wasn't the best player for the majority of his rings,

Shaq carried him in the finals

Kobe wasnt even the best player in his first FIVE finals series 2000-2002 , 2004, 2008. Wasn't the best player in any of em :yeshrug:

Cp3 deserved his only struggle MVP

Wasn’t you called out for being someone’s side account?:russ: I’d have a response for you but I’d rather save thatgor draje
 

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Lebron is dope and that's impressive but all of the fans impressed by stats and not being a winner is ruining the game

when Oscar was the only dude doing triple double shyt on average it was fukk him
its funny how stats only matter when they match your narrative :russ:

Like someone said, Lebron is just gifted with size and athleticism... same with Shaq, who was really not good at shyt besides overpowering people and spinning off with his elbow
:hhh:
 

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Well if you gonna say that Kobe first 3 rings dont count, he wasn't even the best player on his own team :mjlol::mjlol:,

2009 dont count cause KG was injured, plus 2002 kings series was rigged :mjlol::yeshrug:


you guys are arguing about Kobe and Lebron but I could give a fukk about either
I was a Portland Trailblazer fan at that time :russ: fukk that game
 

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Your proving a portion of my point. He has had more time as the #1 option and only one more FMVP than kobe. You keep saying “rings” like he got a bunch more than kobe. He’s been to 7 straight finals and 8 total in his career, and only managed one more FMVP than kobe even though he has more time as the #1 option, I’m suppose to be impressed? Duncan has 3 FMVPs and we still talk shyt about him, so idk what made you think lebrons 3 would be any different and speaking of Duncan, not to drag him in this, but he has one more FMVPs than Kareem. Who is putting Duncan ahead of Kareem as a all time champion? Not many.

Question, If he had 5 FMVPS, then would Jordan’s 6 still look impressive? No, In fact Jordan’s 6 for 6 would lose value if Lebron was that close behind him.

As far as Scottie is concerned if you want to say Scottie was the better winner as a #2, matter afact you would be right.

But no, Lebron doesn’t have more ringS as the main guy, adding the S would apply he has more than one FMVP which he doesn’t. Lebron as the main guy is 3-5 in the finals, soon to be 3-6 if he even makes it this year. So the fact that you speak like Lebron was this super great leader that kobe wasn’t is making me crack up and you do this often. He puts up better numbers and lost, he has one more FMVP than kobe, he will end his career below 500% in finals so no matter how you flip the script, I’m not impressed. He should have 2-3 more than kobe based on the hype.

And All of your post does nothing but reinforces why people feel the way they do about Lebron. He’s not even the greatest champion of his own era. Duncan and Kobe are still ahead of him and in fact, if we use that #1 option tactic, he’s still behind Duncan and only one ahead of kobe. There could be 100 reasons why anybody would believe Lebron is ahead of kobe, rings and FMVPs ain’t one of them because if soWhy do people say Lebron is better than jordan? which is why I mentioned him

Jordan has 6 FMVP
Lebron only 3
Jordan has 5 mvps
Lebron, 4

But somehow the media tried to create this “Bron is goat” narrative. If we allow that, than no, Lebron as the “main guy” only has one more FMVP than kobe, where as Jordan has 3 more than Lebron as the “main” guy. By your logic, why Lebron in the same sentence as Jordan? You know, since having more finals mvps mean so much?

But let’s be real though, you harp on this #1 option cause that’s the only thing you could say. Robert horry, Kenny the Jet, and many others bragged about theyre rings when they weren’t first options

Shaq also brags about all 4 when he wasn’t the first option for his 4th.
KG bragged about his ring. Scottie has talked about his 6 rings too.
All of them have whether they were the 1st, 2nd or 5th option.

Now you could rewrite all of why Lebron has done sooooo much more as the 1st option in the finals than kobe, with only one finals mvp more than him, I will repeat the same thing so don’t waste your(really mines) time.

This is a bunch of Bullshyt.

Kobe losing before the finals isn't somehow better than losing in it. I'm not basing my arguments off of hype, I'm basing it off performance.

Lebron puts up better numbers in the playoff, better numbers in the regular season, has 3 more MVPs, and has one more FMVP.

Unless you trying to argue that Pippin > Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Bird, and Wilt then trying to say Rings > All Is stupid.

Kareem also has more MVPS, scoring records, sustained excellence at an even crazier rate, and puts up better numbers. He was a 6 time MVP, 19 time all-star, and also has 6 rings.

Kobe has a whopping 1 MVPs, 2 FMVPs, and 5 rings. Lebron has 4 MVPS and 3 FMVPs plus 3 rings.

You can't have it both ways. Either Rings are the only things that matter so 2nd option rings are worth as much as leading a team as the main guy or context fukking matters because not all rings are weighed the same
 

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This is a bunch of Bullshyt.

Kobe losing before the finals isn't somehow better than losing in it. I'm not basing my arguments off of hype, I'm basing it off performance.

Lebron puts up better numbers in the playoff, better numbers in the regular season, has 3 more MVPs, and has one more FMVP.

Unless you trying to argue that Pippin > Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Magic, Bird, and Wilt then trying to say Rings > All Is stupid.

Kareem also has more MVPS, scoring records, sustained excellence at an even crazier rate, and puts up better numbers. He was a 6 time MVP, 19 time all-star, and also has 6 rings.

Kobe has a whopping 1 MVPs, 2 FMVPs, and 5 rings. Lebron has 4 MVPS and 3 FMVPs plus 3 rings.

You can't have it both ways. Either Rings are the only things that matter so 2nd option rings are worth as much as leading a team as the main guy or context fukking matters because not all rings are weighed the same
FIrst of all, kobe still ranks higher than Lebron in all time points, fields goals made, 3 pointers made, free throws, steals, (and to be fair I’ll include turnovers and the most missed fields goal) so all that “Lebron does this...” nikka cut it out. Will he pass kobe at some point in all of these? Yea, until then nikka please. At this point nobody cares what Lebron achieves in the regular season or even playoffs. He broke records last year in the playoffs and got sent home in 5. You know this so stop goalpost moving. First it was “well what if Scottie is better than kobe as the #2” as soon as I agree, now it’s “well what if pippin>>>Wilt Shaq etc” nikka stfu. The past year especially, we seen Lebron proped up as a “GOAT” so all that regular season/playoff shyt doesn’t matter at this point. When you get all that hype and say you chasing Jordan, you got to show me the rings too. First option, second option, show me that you contributed mightly to a finals win and then we can talk. Kobe contributed to winning whether it was him and Pau or Shaq and him. Lebron is a historic loser who you all have placed in this box, expecting the rest of us to care about what he does in the regular season and playoffs. We know he’s great. Now call me when all that greatness turns into some rings “since he’s the main guy.”

That’s all the context you need, people have put Lebron in this space where he is proped up as a GOAT, and honestly he has not lived up to that. Period.

As far as the Kareem shyt, nikka I said rings. I don’t care about MVPs Finals and finals only, how many people say Tim Duncan is a greater champion than Kareem?

By your logic, Duncan got more FMVP so it should be him right? Even though we ignoring what he has done in the other two finals he didn’t win FMVP for.

If we take away Kobe’s first 3 cause of Shaq, that means Lebron has only one ring and one FMVP ahead of Kobe. Whoopty doo big deal. You in here talking like he got 3 more than kobe

No, Jordan got 3 more than Bron but that don’t stop nikkas from comparing the two, but when Bron stans are reminded that Jordan is a greater champion, Bron stans go through all sorts of mental gymnastics to explain why Lebron is greater

“But but but triple double”

“But but but he beat greater teams”

“But but but Jordan lost first round”

Yet these same Bron stans think it’s a crime to respect Kobe, an actual winner, cause Bron overrated ass got ONE more fmvp than him?

Yea ok guy.
 

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Lebron is dope and that's impressive but all of the fans impressed by stats and not being a winner is ruining the game

when Oscar was the only dude doing triple double shyt on average it was fukk him
its funny how stats only matter when they match your narrative :russ:

Like someone said, Lebron is just gifted with size and athleticism... same with Shaq, who was really not good at shyt besides overpowering people and spinning off with his elbow

This fukking bum just said Shaq had no talent. Kids these days :dwillhuh:

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