LeBron "personal goal is to surpass Jordan"

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Rodman, Salley, Kerr, Harper, Grant, Parish, maybe more, all fit the description breh gave.

I thought he meant actual contributors :ld:that's why I mentioned rodman and the bulls 1st 3 peat has zero players that fit that criteria

salley,parish,james edwards were old & washed,kerr was a journeyman who won nothing before the bulls,harper was washed and won nothing before the bulls.I don't really get the point but I digress
 

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...dat lead em bof to zero chips and zero MVPs. :francis:


Effectiveness>>>pretty aesthetics
true ... But when it comes to JORDAN He had effectiveness and a pretty ass game
the only player who came close to JOrdan overall was Kobe...

Lebron has the #'s... but when it's all said and done, all those wrestling moves, and crab dribbles aint gonna transcend the next generation.
 

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After its all said and done, Lebron will be in the top 3 of all time regardless if that's true or not.
None of us can speak on the old time greats that MJ looked up to. We seen videos here and there, but unless you watched a seasons worth? You can't really speak on them when it comes to comparisons. I'm assuming we all are too young to really speak on the Oscar Robinsons/etc. Well, @beaniemac was probably at these old skool games, I remember him once talking about what Chicago was like before Jordan but that's another story..

Lebron is a top 3 basketball player in most of our lifetimes. Jordan is number 1 and Lebron can't match it. Its too late, but Lebron is a clear #2 and best since Jordan. Kobe had shaq and phil, had stacked teams everytime he won. Lebron's team in Miami wasn't really as stacked as people say because Bosh nor wade was the same players once Lebron Joined them, Bosh really ain't been much of shyt since leaving toronto. I'd say :mjpls: :gladbron: :shaq: as the top 3 of most of our lifetimes...

Jordan was co-signed by the old school once he reached his peak. I never met anyone old school that was taking another player over him, especially anybody that wasn't a big man.
 

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Statistically/accolades lebron will most likely pass jordan but after watching the 2011 finals he'll never be better than mike in my eyes that was the weirdest performance by a superstar I ever saw.2010 vs boston too

I'll never put a dude that heartless over the goat lebron froze up in the finals and let shawn marion and jason terry herb him I watched jordan he never mentally checked out like that
 

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fukk an award breh... LBJ ain't never passing Mike ... Mike's game was GODLY perfection sent from the basketball Gods.
only person close to Mike was Kobe, and maybe Tracy & Vince ...
also Offensively, Melo is better than Bron... also Melo game is better aesthetically than Lebron.



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LeBron is the greatest player...Jordan is given way TOO MUCH credit...

I looked at the players that Jordan played with, many of them either won multiple rings before joining Jordan or won multiple rings after leaving Jordan...No player in the modern era played with more ring holders than Jordan...And Jordan only started winning when multiple ring players joined the Bulls...


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true ... But when it comes to JORDAN He had effectiveness and a pretty ass game
the only player who came close to JOrdan overall was Kobe...

Lebron has the #'s... but when it's all said and done, all those wrestling moves, and crab dribbles aint gonna transcend the next generation.

Yeah, dey've only just transcended and continue to help transcend him to being considered one of da top 5, possibly top 3 greatest basketball playas of all time.

Transcend da next generation...You nikkas are a trip.:heh:
 

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Yeah, dey've only just transcended and continue to transcend him to being considered one of da top 5, possibly top 3 greatest basketball playas of all time.

Transcend da next generation...You nikkas are a trip.:heh:
There's a reason why Mike, or better yet, Centers like Hakkem or Shaq were able to transcend a nikka like Kareem who # wise is the greatest... we can watch highlights all day of Hakeem mixing up dudes with his array of moves, or Shaq dominating other centers... with kareem eh.
Magic Johnson is still relevant cause of his style of play ..
Lebron's style of play won't be enough to dethrone Jordan. The dude the kids will remember as the greatest and next after Jordan, from this era, if he remains healthy and continue success will be Steph...
 

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There's a reason why Mike, or better yet, Centers like Hakkem or Shaq were able to transcend a nikka like Kareem who # wise is the greatest... we can watch highlights all day of Hakeem mixing up dudes with his array of moves, or Shaq dominating other centers... with kareem eh.
Magic Johnson is still relevant cause of his style of play ..
Lebron's style of play won't be enough to dethrone Jordan. The dude the kids will remember as the greatest and next after Jordan, from this era, if he remains healthy and continue success will be Steph...

Oh, you mean da nikka Bron just fukkin embarrassed and used as a human step stool to achieve teflon status?... Who then went to recruit anotha one of Bron's victims in order to try and beat him?

We talmbout dat Steph?

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Facts...Look it up yourself...Jordan played with the most players with rings before and after him...


AND LEBRON PLAYED WITH 2 ALLSTARS MINIMUM FOR EACH OF HIS TITLE RUNS.......


KOBE WON BACK TO BACK WITH ONLY ONE ALL-STAR AND PLAYERS WHO GOT LITERALLY NOWHERE BEFORE AND AFTER HE TOOK THEM TO THE PROMISELAND....IN THE WESTERN CONFERENCE


SO BY YOUR VERY OWN ESTIMATION, KOBE THE GOAT
 

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:what: name these players.Besides rodman I can't think of one I am too and you're exaggerating.
Dennis Rodman 2 before Jordan
Ron Harper 2 after Jordan
Steve Kerr 2 after Jordan
Robert Parish 3 before Jordan
Will Perdue 1 after Jordan
John Salley 2 before Jordan 1 after Jordan
Horace Grant 1 after Jordan

That's 13 RINGS for Jordan's "supporting cast"...Which other player of the modern era has been fortunate enough to play with such a decorated "supporting cast"?

Jordan played on probably the BEST teams in the history of the NBA...

LeBron EASILY takes bums to the next level...He just didn't have the fortunate to play with championship experienced teammates all the time (like Jordan did)...
 
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