Lebron Post Game

NormanConnors

Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
32,039
Reputation
6,565
Daps
66,259
Reppin
Detroit
that Dilla instrumental :wow:

Bron's post game has become quite nasty, being able to finish with either hand is a plus. He's going to beast in two different athletic approaches to his craft kind of like Clay/Ali, in regards to athletic slippage that is.
 

Primetime

Superstar
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
14,252
Reputation
3,400
Daps
45,779
Reppin
H-Town
MJ was a 6'6 200-220 lb shooting guard anomaly posting up the average sg that was somewhere between 6'3/6'4 and 190lbs or less. john starks, jeff hornacek, danny ainge.. even the heavier or stronger looking ones like dumars, hersey hawkins, nick anderson, etc still had the height and athleticism disadvantage.

Kobe upon first recollection may have gotten matched up against taller defenders as time went on as the doug christies, bruce bowens, shawn marions, come to mind. Ruben patterson lol and raja bell who were both 6'5. should note that they did also throw taller small forwards at mj too like byron russel, grant hill, gerald wilkins, etc.

Regardless, cant forget the point guards who would be forced to guard them at times (payton, kidd,
mjackson).. so while lebron is taking advantage of his physical advantage, kobe and esp jordan did similar in their own way since they were a tad oversized at their position for a time.
 

nieman

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 30, 2012
Messages
18,080
Reputation
2,736
Daps
36,021
Reppin
Philly
He's still too robotic down there and holds the ball far too long at times. Like a couple of other posters said, he mainly uses the post to survey the floor. He needs a variety of moves or to at least a quick go-to move, especially when he turns around to face up.

I think he could've benefitted greatly from working with Webber on how to maneuver in the high/low-post with a power-finesse-passing game.
 
Joined
Jan 26, 2014
Messages
1,342
Reputation
-399
Daps
2,146
:childplease: Jordan and Kobe are probably the two strongest two guards ever. It's hilarious how cats act like these dudes were 5'9 160 doing what they did in the post. When Bron's athleticism fades he will still be stronger than any 3 and most 4s. That said I don't know why cats are acting like Bron isn't hitting dudes with spins and fadeaways and stepbacks left and right now. If he has the option to just power to the basket he takes it...like any smart player would. Cats complaining about Bron's post game sound like me complaining about my dad backing me down in the paint and scoring at will when I was a kid.

Me: Come on dad why don't you shoot some jumpers? All you do is back me down and shoot easy shots. :sadbron:
Dad: Can you stop it? :mjpls:
Me: No. :damn:
Dad: :yeshrug:Check ball.
Lebron-James-steals-Dirk.gif

lebron-shake-and-bake.gif
 
Joined
Jan 26, 2014
Messages
1,342
Reputation
-399
Daps
2,146
MJ was a 6'6 200-220 lb shooting guard anomaly posting up the average sg that was somewhere between 6'3/6'4 and 190lbs or less. john starks, jeff hornacek, danny ainge.. even the heavier or stronger looking ones like dumars, hersey hawkins, nick anderson, etc still had the height and athleticism disadvantage.

Kobe upon first recollection may have gotten matched up against taller defenders as time went on as the doug christies, bruce bowens, shawn marions, come to mind. Ruben patterson lol and raja bell who were both 6'5. should note that they did also throw taller small forwards at mj too like byron russel, grant hill, gerald wilkins, etc.

Regardless, cant forget the point guards who would be forced to guard them at times (payton, kidd,
mjackson).. so while lebron is taking advantage of his physical advantage, kobe and esp jordan did similar in their own way since they were a tad oversized at their position for a time.
Nah let these 90's/early 000's fanboys tell it they were posting up against the best defenders in the league every time they went down the court.
 

Majestic Pape

The-Coli = W SOHH = L
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
11,035
Reputation
540
Daps
12,852
:comeon: not hard to be more efficient when majority of lebrons posts ups result in him barreling his way towards the basket for lay ups and dunks and jordan and kobe worked the mid range and on the blocks

5101813.gif


post-22318-Michael-Jordan-ball-fake-gif-SvYu.gif


kobe-fadeaway-on-lebron-o.gif


Michael-Jordan-026a.gif


This is what I was talking about

So we're criticizing LeBron for getting to the rim now?

Yeah, the fadeaways are pretty and shyt, but would you rather get a 16 foot jumper out of the post or a layup? :stopitslime:
 

Poitier

My Words Law
Supporter
Joined
Jul 30, 2013
Messages
69,412
Reputation
15,494
Daps
246,429
The point of a post game is to draw in defenders and get high percentage shots close to the rim so even though Kobe and Jordan's might look better, Bron's is much more effective.

Yeah....most of this post would matter if it were figure skating.

Lebron is more efficient in the low blocks than both players too


Kobe and Jordan averaged SIGNIFICANTLY higher ppp out of post-ups but I won't let facts get in the way
0mjRGtr.png
 

Poitier

My Words Law
Supporter
Joined
Jul 30, 2013
Messages
69,412
Reputation
15,494
Daps
246,429
Post the numbers, you'll be hard pressed to find any data on Jordan so that alone is going to be a dead end :mjpls:

Bron was number 1 in the league this year in PPP, so care to back up them claims?

This was in Kobe's last full season as a 35 year old man :mjpls:


LeBron vs. Kobe in the post-up this season

PlayerPlay PctPlays/GPlaysPointsEfficiencyFG%TO%
LeBron James13.13.643410.95350.016.3
Kobe Bryant17.25.684871.03650.89.5
Source: Synergy data
 
Last edited:

Imyremeshaw

كن التغير الذي تريد أن تراه في العالم
Joined
Jun 28, 2012
Messages
1,738
Reputation
385
Daps
5,268
Reppin
NULL
Kobe and Jordan averaged SIGNIFICANTLY higher ppp out of post-ups but I won't let facts get in the way
0mjRGtr.png

Yea Kobe and Jordan average more points out of the post than Lebron, but if you have watched the playoffs and the regular season this year Lebron is essentially using his post game like Mark Jackson(on the pacers and clippers) did to set up other Heat players( notably Chris Bosh for the corner 3) and to make double teams commit to Lebron for the mismatch. Lebron post game is mainly for passing where as Jordan and Kobe's post game was for scoring in the triangle and somewhat to an extant for mismatch as well( because Kobe and Jordan good passers as well).....
 

Malta

Sweetwater
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
66,896
Reputation
15,260
Daps
279,773
Reppin
Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
This was in Kobe's last full season as a 35 year old man :mjpls:


LeBron vs. Kobe in the post-up this season

PlayerPlay PctPlays/GPlaysPointsEfficiencyFG%TO%
LeBron James 13.13.643410.95350.016.3
Kobe Bryant 17.25.684871.03650.89.5
Source: Synergy data


Your source is from 2 years ago :camby:

LeBron closing the gap on Kobe in the post - Miami Heat Index Blog - ESPN

We're talking about LeBron having improved as a post player and you gotta go back 2 years to find numbers? He's improved since then or we trapped in a bubble breh?

What does Kobe's age have to do with anything breh, he was 14th in the league on PPP in the 2010-2011 season -

• Keep an eye on Kobe Bryant’s post-up chances next season. He shot 48.6 percent from the post in 2010-11, an outstanding mark for a guard/wing, and ranked 14th in points per possession on post-up plays. Last season, Bryant’s shooting percentage from the block fell to 41.5, and he dropped to No. 30 in points per possession. That’s not bad — a bit bitter than average, actually — but the Lakers can do better than “not bad” with all the talent surrounding him

I know the Bronyasty frightens you, just accept his greatness :blessed:
:mjpls:
 

Poitier

My Words Law
Supporter
Joined
Jul 30, 2013
Messages
69,412
Reputation
15,494
Daps
246,429
Your source is from 2 years ago :camby:

LeBron closing the gap on Kobe in the post - Miami Heat Index Blog - ESPN

We're talking about LeBron having improved as a post player and you gotta go back 2 years to find numbers? He's improved since then or we trapped in a bubble breh?

What does Kobe's age have to do with anything breh, he was 14th in the league on PPP in the 2010-2011 season -

[quote• Keep an eye on Kobe Bryant’s post-up chances next season. He shot 48.6 percent from the post in 2010-11, an outstanding mark for a guard/wing, and ranked 14th in points per possession on post-up plays. Last season, Bryant’s shooting percentage from the block fell to 41.5, and he dropped to No. 30 in points per possession. That’s not bad — a bit bitter than average, actually — but the Lakers can do better than “not bad” with all the talent surrounding him


:mjpls:[/QUOTE]

1 season
:mjpls:

And that 1 season is better than 95 % of Lebron's seasons
 
Top