Don't play dumb. You know what I'm talking about.
Lebron realizes how much the NBA has dropped talent wise in the last 15 years. (video)
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Of course people are going to talk about it, because they love talking about it. It doesn't mean that most of what they say isn't still stupid.
Talent in a sport gets worse when the sport becomes less popular and fewer people are playing it. Otherwise, it tends to get better. Use simple logic.
Factors that make 2010s talent better than 1980s talent.
1) Basketball was way bigger among 1990s and 2000s youth than among 1960s and 1970s youth. WAY more kids are playing, they're playing young, they're trying harder at a younger age. Serious traveling teams with actual coaching are forming at younger and younger ages. Skills development is beginning earlier. There are 15x as many kids playing serious basketball as there used to be and the average 18-year-old bball prospect has 5x as much playing experience and coaching as he did in the 1980s. If you make the pool of talented people that much larger and give them that much more practice, how do they not end up better players?
2) There's a huge surge of international talent. There are over 100 international ballers from 35+ countries in the NBA right now. That's talent that just wasn't available in the 1980s. San Antonio and Dallas's championship teams were built around international talent. In the Finals this year, you had Mosgov, Kyrie, Delly, Thompson, Bogut all starting (and Barbosa, Ezeli, Varejao on the bench). Again, how can you make the talent pool that much bigger and not get a more talented league?
3) Second-generation talent is coming through the league now. Former ballers' sons like Kobe, Steph Curry, and Klay Thompson have been living the game since they were little kids and are incredible. In the 1980s guys were just starting to make up their own moves - in the 2010s, they've been pulling off those moves since they were 8 AND making up their own new ones on top of it. How do you not improve upon what came before you? Do you seriously think that Jesse Owens had better running form and stronger legs than Usain Bolt?
4) Coaching has evolved. Defenses are far better, strategy is far more serious, rather than slacking most of the season its become a war 48 minutes of every game. Teams are playing zones, complex switching schemes, complex offenses with multiple things going on at once all over the court. As defenses have gotten better, offensive skills have gotten better and better to adjust.
Now, factors that make 1980s talent better than 2010s talent.
1) Nostalgia.
2) Magic "best era" fairy dust.
Do you honestly have a logical argument for why 1980s talent would be better that doesn't sound like some old-timer, "Man, in my day men were tougher! We had to work harder for everything! We were real men back then!"
Right, in the fukking 80s.
Nothing other than five straight Finals and back-to-back championships by the age of 30. He's still got years ahead of him too. This random "didn't do anything" diss shyt makes no sense - no superstar has ever taken more shyt for "only" winning back-to-back championships at this age.
Nostalgia is the most damaging thing when it comes to discussing sports. They're laws that are basically impossible to break, when someone can't see a way out.
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The_Third_Man
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Exactly. I've been seeing this happening over and over not only in basketball, but everything in life.These threads are always funny.
All I'll say is, it's gonna be funny 15 years from now when the cats who grew up on this current era are all grown up and are on some "Back in my day" shyt just like y'all do.
Coli posts in 2030 - "Brehs y'all see this 2012 ECF with the Heat & Celtics? LeBron, Wade, Bosh, KG, Pierce, Allen, Rondo...even quality role players like Shane Battier & Udonis Haslem"
Some of y'all will play dumb like it won't happen, when it never fails
Motherfukkas act like god stopped making talented people in 1985
Truer words have never been posted.
Of course basketball was better back then.
This era got a bunch of bytch made jump shooters.
Act like Steph Curry would dominate in 2000 brehs.
Be dumb brehs.
Put a soft jump shooter in a league with handchecking and act like he would dominate, brehs.
Put a soft jump shooter in a league with handchecking and act like he would dominate, brehs.
The_Third_Man
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Of course basketball was better back then.
This era got a bunch of bytch made jump shooters.
Act like Steph Curry would dominate in 2000 brehs.
