"Lebron statements were correct on ring culture" Gilbert Arenas & T-Mac explains to Stephen A Smith why Lebron was right!

[Sterling Archer]

You have to be intentionally obtuse to not understand that Championships are what SEPARATES the greatest players among the OTHER greatest players. Rings are what you use to "split hairs" when you have 2 COMPARABLE players. COMPARABLE ONLY.

Trying to argue anything else betrays your true intention which is to lessen your own failures or to lessen someone else's. This fits TMac and Gil to a tee.

 

[RedBull]

Someone beat me to it, but how can you have this discussion with a ringless panel? They don’t know what it feels like to win a chip, so therefore they only see things one way. They ALL know that everyone looks at rings first, I’ve seen Gilbert and J Will in debates using rings to win their points. Now, they’re up here parroting LeBron because NOW ring culture is an issue because HE says so? The shyt BEEN an issue many years ago, but each and every person up there went with it and co/signed LeBron’s ring chasing tactics over the years, except SAS. Now that everyone is used to the ring culture, they want to change the narrative again.

Bron is Geppetto to yall Pinocchios. Disgusting!

 

[Sterling Archer]

Someone beat me to it, but how can you have this discussion with a ring less panel? They don’t know what it feels like to win a chip, so therefore they only see things one way. They ALL know that everyone looks at rings first, I’ve seen Gilbert and J Will in debates using rings to win their points. Now, they’re up here parroting LeBron because NOW ring culture is an issue because HE says so? The shyt BEEN an issue many years ago, but each and every person up there went with it and co/signed LeBron’s ring chasing tactics over the years, except SAS. Now that everyone is used to the ring culture, they want to change the narrative again.

Bron is Geppetto to yall Pinocchios. Disgusting!

Also, Lebron is a liar and a hypocrite. Who cares about his opinions at this point? Everything he says is to better his position, not out of honesty. Buddy will be on camera and make a statement because it makes him look good, then when that same statement works against will say "I never said that" with the straightest face ever.

 

[CHICAGO]

When Chris Webber joined, I was like is Karl Malone and Charles Barkley coming up next?

MALONE AND BARKLEY
ARENT SHAMELESS ENOUGH
TO PULL THIS shyt.

THEY WANTED THAT RING BADLY


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[CHICAGO]

Right message, wrong messenger.

If Tyrese or SGA capture a ring this weekend, do they now by default have better legacies & careers than Malone, Iverson, Ewing, etc.? To me, absolutely not.

Does he have a valid point about how pervasive the discussion is in the NBA compared to other major sports and how they treat their Hall of Famers whose Teams didn’t go all the way (Barry Bonds, Marino, etc.)? Absolutely.

Should this messsge be coming from the guy who televised “The Decision”, went to Miami and did a press conference where he and two other Superstars came out onstage with smoke machines like Hulk Hogan, Nash, and Hall in fukkin 1996 and declared they would win 7 in a row?…

HELL no. FOH Bron. At this point, he knows he won’t catch MJ in rings so he’s strategically moving the goal post for his own GOAT case purposes.

HES NOT RIGHT.

NO ONE EVER PLACED PAUL PIERCE
ABOVE BARKLEY BECAUSE HE
HAS A FMVP.

KAWHI HAS 2 FMVP
AND NO ONE IS PUTTING
HIM ABOVE MALONE.

PPL KNOW HOW TO USE NUANCE.

HES PURPOSELY CREATING
A BULLshyt ARGUMENT TO DEFLECT
FROM THE FACT HE COULDNT CATCH MIKE


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[Sterling Archer]

HES NOT RIGHT.

NO ONE EVER PLACED PAUL PIERCE
ABOVE BARKLEY BECAUSE HE
HAS A FMVP.

KAWHI HAS 2 FMVP
AND NO ONE IS PUTTING
HIM ABOVE MALONE.

PPL KNOW HOW TO USE NUANCE.

HES PURPOSELY CREATING
A BULLshyt ARGUMENT TO DEFLECT
FROM THE FACT HE COULDNT CATCH MIKE


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Exactly. Gil has never brought up Bill Russel in his life other than to defend Lebron from Jordan.

 

[ISO]

Right message, wrong messenger.

If Tyrese or SGA capture a ring this weekend, do they now by default have better legacies & careers than Malone, Iverson, Ewing, etc.? To me, absolutely not.

Does he have a valid point about how pervasive the discussion is in the NBA compared to other major sports and how they treat their Hall of Famers whose Teams didn’t go all the way (Barry Bonds, Marino, etc.)? Absolutely.

Should this messsge be coming from the guy who televised “The Decision”, went to Miami and did a press conference where he and two other Superstars came out onstage with smoke machines like Hulk Hogan, Nash, and Hall in fukkin 1996 and declared they would win 7 in a row?…

HELL no. FOH Bron. At this point, he knows he won’t catch MJ in rings so he’s strategically moving the goal post for his own GOAT case purposes.

Bosh a superstar now

 

[Standing on business]

Bosh a superstar now

He definitely was trending that way, Id say he was his last year in Toronto. He probably would've been a 30/10 player the next year if he stayed.

 

[Big Boss]

When Chris Webber joined, I was like is Karl Malone and Charles Barkley coming up next?

 

[H. Selassie]

Bosh a superstar now

You can try to revise history but the facts are what they are. Season before joining Miami he averaged 24 and 11, was a 5-Time All-Star, and a Gold Medalist. He damn sure wasn’t a role player at that point.

 

[THE K-MAN]

Gil is wrong about 2nd guy rings not counting,they do count....Kobe/Shaq were second guys on title teams so was Kyrie,Gasol,Pippen who are HOFers if you a are a great player/HOFer those rings matter even if you wasnt the FMVP or lead guy....

He basically saying we don’t respect Dr. J ring in 83’

 

[NotAHotep]

He definitely was trending that way, Id say he was one his last year in Toronto. He probably would've been a 30/10 player the next year if he stayed.

He made ONE all-nba team in his career. Good player, but vastly overrated.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Downplay ring culture after saying the ring you won in 2016 is what made you the goat, brehs

 

[Standing on business]

He made ONE all-nba team in his career. Good player, but vastly overrated.

No other big man was averaging 24 & 10 at that time breh. Time is not kind to Bosh because he went to Miami at age 26 when he was entering his prime and his numbers started looking pedestrian. But in realtime it was a superteam cause you had a 24 & 10 nikka joining The beast player in the league in Bron and the 2nd best SG in the league in Flash.

 

[Killer Instinct]

The shyt BEEN an issue many years ago,

"He can score and break all the records he wants to, but he'll never win another ring without Shaq!"

Remember that era?
I do.