LeBron throwing darts at KD and other high-volume chuckers

[Draje]

And nikkas is comparing him to Shaq in the paint as if that's a bad thing.

"Lebron is Shaq-lite in the paint with the ability to murder you from mid-range and three if you give too many looks, the passing skills of an elite PG, and the ability to handle the rock and get into the lane at will! But he sucks because teams he takes smart shots rather than play like Kobe!"

 

[Swagnificent]

Lebron typically averages around Kobe's PPG on higher efficiency.

You act like averaging 30.3 PPG on 50% or 25.9 on 49% is some subpar scoring. 30.3 on 50% is better than anything Kobe has ever done in the playoffs so what's your point? That when Lebron's efficiency plummets, he's simply better than Kobe rather than on another planet?

FALSE. here are the real numbers.

Kobe 08-10 playoffs (3 straight trips to the finals / 2 rings / 2 finals mvps): 29.8 ppg on 56.9 TS%
LeBron 11-13 playoffs (3 straight trips to the finals / 2 rings / 2 finals mvps): 26.7 ppg on 57.5 TS%

If scoring 27ppg is around 30ppg then how the hell can u say Bron's efficiency is "higher". If anything its the efficiency that is the same and Kobe's volume is higher.

gimme 30ppg on 57% than 27ppg on 57.5%.

plus Kobe also plays in the tougher western conference where he doesn't have the advantage of 2 cupcake rounds before any serious competition. LeBron pretty much doesn't play anyone in the East till the conference finals.

 

[FAH1223]

If LeBron wanted to shoot 30 times a game, he should have stayed in CLE.

 

[Swagnificent]

And nikkas is comparing him to Shaq in the paint as if that's a bad thing.

"Lebron is Shaq-lite in the paint with the ability to murder you from mid-range and three if you give too many looks, the passing skills of an elite PG, and the ability to handle the rock and get into the lane at will! But he sucks because teams he takes smart shots rather than play like Kobe!"

why u ignoring my last post? difficult to argue against FACTS.

 

[Poitier]

That's the problem with Lebron's "efficiency", he is only highly efficient in transition and in the paint. He is mediocre EVERYWHERE else on the court. It's why the Spurs' gameplan will be the blueprint for defending him from now until his career is over. He isn't a very portable offensive player. This is why efficiency alone isn't enough but stat nerds have raised it above versatility and portability. KD isn't versatile like prime Kobe or Lebron but he is portable like Kobe, they can shoot at a high enough clip from ANYWHERE on the court so you can't gameplan against them by "backing off them and letting them shoot."

 

[Swagnificent]

That's the problem with Lebron's "efficiency", he is only highly efficient in transition and in the paint. He is mediocre EVERYWHERE else on the court. It's why the Spurs' gameplan will be the blueprint for defending him from now until his career is over. He isn't a very portable offensive player. This is why efficiency alone isn't enough but stat nerds have raised it above versatility and portability. KD isn't versatile like prime Kobe or Lebron but he is portable like Kobe, they can shoot at a high enough clip from ANYWHERE on the court so you can't gameplan against them by "backing off them and letting them shoot."

co-sign most of this

I'll just add that KD's weakness vis-a-vis Kobe is that he ain't as good as Kobe scoring off the dribble. Durant scores alot of points off catch and shoot situations. He's highly efficient at that (better than Kobe). However, the thing Kobe does best is the thing that is the hardest to stop. Isolation play where the paint is closed off and you need to hit contested jumpers. Its the reason Kobe always kills the Spurs and pretty much everyone else. he can score in the hardest manner possible.

 

[red222]

Dude is becoming D-Wade status in terms of being unlikeable....

yall late fukk that dude

 

[Poitier]

co-sign most of this

I'll just add that KD's weakness vis-a-vis Kobe is that he ain't as good as Kobe scoring off the dribble. Durant scores alot of points off catch and shoot situations. He's highly efficient at that (better than Kobe). However, the thing Kobe does best is the thing that is the hardest to stop. Isolation play where the paint is closed off and you need to hit contested jumpers. Its the reason Kobe always kills the Spurs and pretty much everyone else. he can score in the hardest manner possible.

KD needs to develop a postgame, as well.

 

[Goat poster]

That's the problem with Lebron's "efficiency", he is only highly efficient in transition and in the paint. He is mediocre EVERYWHERE else on the court. It's why the Spurs' gameplan will be the blueprint for defending him from now until his career is over. He isn't a very portable offensive player. This is why efficiency alone isn't enough but stat nerds have raised it above versatility and portability. KD isn't versatile like prime Kobe or Lebron but he is portable like Kobe, they can shoot at a high enough clip from ANYWHERE on the court so you can't gameplan against them by "backing off them and letting them shoot."

So if efficiency isnt enough judging on an individual basis:

Why does Bron have more finals MVP's than Durant ( who has NONE) , and the same amount as Kobe ( they both have 2) ?

And why do you keep using a finals example in which Bron averages 25, 11, and 7 as a BAD THING ???

That game plan to defend Bron is OVERRATED, he's too complete of a player to let that shyt render him ineffective.

 

[Goatpoacher]

why u ignoring my last post? difficult to argue against FACTS.

Look at your profile. Look at your post. Look at your profile again. You trying to go back to back?

 

[Poitier]

So if efficiency isnt enough judging on an individual basis:

Why does Bron have more finals MVP's than Durant ( who has NONE) , and the same amount as Kobe ( they both have 2) ?

And why do you keep using a finals example in which Bron averages 25, 11, and 7 as a BAD THING ???

That game plan to defend Bron is OVERRATED, he's too complete of a player to let that shyt render him ineffective.

Just because the writers have fallen in love with efficiency, doesn't mean it's any more credible a measure by itself. Lebron has the same FMVP as Kobe because he faced
significantly weaker defensive teams. Kobe would be a 7 time champion and 4 time FMVP if you replace the 08 Celtics and 04 Pistons with the 11 Thunder and 13 Spurs.

Brons finals averages were inflated by 2 games and boosted his subpar play in the other 5 games.

If it is an overrated gameplan, why did it work 5/7 games? Luckily his teammates were able to pick up the gaps until he finally grew a pair and hit jumpshots.

 

[SuperNintendo Chalmers]

Lebron is a great player but dude act like a whiny, diva like fakkit.

 

[DeVanteSwing]

lebron doesn't take shots that he'll most likely miss? what an a$$hole

 

[Goat poster]

Just because the writers have fallen in love with efficiency, doesn't mean it's any more credible a measure by itself. Lebron has the same FMVP as Kobe because he faced
significantly weaker defensive teams. Kobe would be a 7 time champion and 4 time FMVP if you replace the 08 Celtics and 04 Pistons with the 11 Thunder and 13 Spurs.

Brons finals averages were inflated by 2 games and boosted his subpar play in the other 5 games.

If it is an overrated gameplan, why did it work 5/7 games? Luckily his teammates were able to pick up the gaps until he finally grew a pair and hit jumpshots.

I assume your talking about games six and seven, but what about him dropping 33 in game 4 or 25 in game 5?


Is that pops game plan working?

OVER FUKKIN RATED. Didn't work, and won't work if tried again.

 

[Poitier]

I assume your talking about games six and seven, but what about him dropping 33 in game 4 or 25 in game 5?


Is that pops game plan working?

OVER FUKKIN RATED. Didn't work, and won't work if tried again.

You mean the game 5 where they kept Lebron in a San Antonio blowout and he proceeded to score 15 points against Spurs' reserves. Awesome.

He did heat up in the fourth quarter of both game 4 and 6 but he was horrific the first 3 quarters of both games.

Learn to watch the games and not be box score warrior.