Lebron turning haters into stans lol (Pierce and Rapaport)

[intruder]

Pierce was just always mad that he couldnt even compare to LeBron.

Pierce was in his prime when LeBron came into the league and all the attention turned to LeBron so he felt slighted. Thus why he would always play his best when playing a LeBron-led team. But deep down he knows he lacks the athleticism and overall game to even be in the same conversation as LeBron.

Must be an ego thing because i dont get why some people feel the need to hate on someone just because others appreciate the other person more. Not saying for you to lay down and not compete or even admit the opponenent is better than you. But actively HATE???

 

[UpAndComing]

good point but there's LBJ's prime/peak, longevity (already passed him in all-time scoring if I remember correctly), accomplishments and accolades

Hakeem has defensive impact and defense on Bron (he has that on everyone though) but Bron's a better scorer, passer, and shooter

In the playoffs Bron is better, in terms of who had the more dominant single chip run, Hakeem has '95 but Bron's '12 is not too far behind and he has an extra ring as "the man".

Those are good points. What gives the edge to Hakeem is his playoff competition prior to the Finals supercedes Bron. For a majority of his career he played in a weak Eastern conference with not much contenders. Hakeem however played against the David Robinson led Spurs, Malone and Stockon led Jazz, Clyde Drexler led Blazers, Payton led Sonics, Barkley led Suns, and when he was younger faced all time teams like the 80s Lakers. That competition trumps anything Lebron faced

And as far as Bron being a better scorer, passer, shooter. Bron is by far the better passer no argument there. But Hakeem is a way better scorer and shooter. Lebron didnt have a post game till like his 8th season, and had a shaky jumpshot. Hakeem from college had an automatic mid range game, all time post game, and athletic finisher as well. Lebron used his strength and athletic ability to score. Hakeem had finesse and skill since college. Its not even close

 

[threattonature]

Those are good points. What gives the edge to Hakeem is his playoff competition prior to the Finals supercedes Bron. For a majority of his career he played in a weak Eastern conference with not much contenders. Hakeem however played against the David Robinson led Spurs, Malone and Stockon led Jazz, Clyde Drexler led Blazers, Payton led Sonics, Barkley led Suns, and when he was younger faced all time teams like the 80s Lakers. That competition trumps anything Lebron faced

And as far as Bron being a better scorer, passer, shooter. Bron is by far the better passer no argument there. But Hakeem is a way better scorer and shooter. Lebron didnt have a post game till like his 8th season, and had a shaky jumpshot. Hakeem from college had an automatic mid range game, all time post game, and athletic finisher as well. Lebron used his strength and athletic ability to score. Hakeem had finesse and skill since college. Its not even close

Not to mention Hakeem was saddled with shytty teams for most of his career. After the finals early on Sampson went down to injuries, two SGs suspended for two years with Drugs, John Lucas smoked himself out the league while Lebron after leaving Cleveland at least had all star teammates.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

A player changed your mind in year 15?

Idiots.

Lebron is what I thought he was.

Unless he's about to start improving that abysmal Finals record, nothing will change. He's a transcendent talent, who is obsessed with all-around stats. Maybe not to the same extreme as Westbrook, but those all-around stats don't just happen, fellas. That is his personal claim to greatness. No problem with that in and of itself, but having gone to 8 Finals, and only winning 3?

If he had simply beaten the Spurs that year, and Dallas, he'd be 5 for 8, and I wouldn't have anything to say. But, he didn't.

A top five player can't be under .500 in Finals wins. Not in my book.

Everybody else can get lost in the moment, but I'm going to remain objective.

He's going to the Finals and he'll lose again, and those same people Stanning for him right now, will be back bashing him again.

Lebron ain't the first person to wig the fukk out in the playoffs, but the way everybody is acting, you'd think he was.

He's going down Top 2 whether you like it or not.

 

[UpAndComing]

Not to mention Hakeem was saddled with shytty teams for most of his career. After the finals early on Sampson went down to injuries, two SGs suspended for two years with Drugs, John Lucas smoked himself out the league while Lebron after leaving Cleveland at least had all star teammates.

Exactly. I didnt even want to mention Hakeem's best teamnates he ever had was Ralph Sampson, no all star teammates for his 1994 championship, and Clyde Drexler. Not even comparable to the talent Lebron teamed up with

 

[Ben.]

Those are good points. What gives the edge to Hakeem is his playoff competition prior to the Finals supercedes Bron. For a majority of his career he played in a weak Eastern conference with not much contenders. Hakeem however played against the David Robinson led Spurs, Malone and Stockon led Jazz, Clyde Drexler led Blazers, Payton led Sonics, Barkley led Suns, and when he was younger faced all time teams like the 80s Lakers. That competition trumps anything Lebron faced

And as far as Bron being a better scorer, passer, shooter. Bron is by far the better passer no argument there. But Hakeem is a way better scorer and shooter. Lebron didnt have a post game till like his 8th season, and had a shaky jumpshot. Hakeem from college had an automatic mid range game, all time post game, and athletic finisher as well. Lebron used his strength and athletic ability to score. Hakeem had finesse and skill since college. Its not even close

I agree in terms of comp but Hakeem was a low seed most of the time and you can't forget all those years taking first round Ls even though they weren't his fault aside from one and then he played like shyt vs. the Sonics in '96 as well.

No way is Hakeem a better scorer since Bron has 14 seasons of 25ppg+ amd Hakeem has 5. Bron has scored more in the offs and most of his with 10+ games played. Hakeem is the more versatile scorer but Bron is more consistent and dominant.

The fact that LeBron takes 4-5 3s a game and makes 36-40% most recently puts him above Hakeem as a shooter (it's too bad we can't see Hakeem's mid range stats but I could see him being a better mid range shooter than bron). Bron is a better finisher at the rim and clutch player as well.

 

[ISO]

Those are good points. What gives the edge to Hakeem is his playoff competition prior to the Finals supercedes Bron. For a majority of his career he played in a weak Eastern conference with not much contenders. Hakeem however played against the David Robinson led Spurs, Malone and Stockon led Jazz, Clyde Drexler led Blazers, Payton led Sonics, Barkley led Suns, and when he was younger faced all time teams like the 80s Lakers. That competition trumps anything Lebron faced

And as far as Bron being a better scorer, passer, shooter. Bron is by far the better passer no argument there. But Hakeem is a way better scorer and shooter. Lebron didnt have a post game till like his 8th season, and had a shaky jumpshot. Hakeem from college had an automatic mid range game, all time post game, and athletic finisher as well. Lebron used his strength and athletic ability to score. Hakeem had finesse and skill since college. Its not even close

Stfu

 

[UpAndComing]

Stfu

Can't articulate an intellectual response, just as I expected

 

[surv2syn]

A player changed your mind in year 15?

Idiots.

Lebron is what I thought he was.

Unless he's about to start improving that abysmal Finals record, nothing will change. He's a transcendent talent, who is obsessed with all-around stats. Maybe not to the same extreme as Westbrook, but those all-around stats don't just happen, fellas. That is his personal claim to greatness. No problem with that in and of itself, but having gone to 8 Finals, and only winning 3?

If he had simply beaten the Spurs that year, and Dallas, he'd be 5 for 8, and I wouldn't have anything to say. But, he didn't.

A top five player can't be under .500 in Finals wins. Not in my book.

Everybody else can get lost in the moment, but I'm going to remain objective.

He's going to the Finals and he'll lose again, and those same people Stanning for him right now, will be back bashing him again.

Lebron ain't the first person to wig the fukk out in the playoffs, but the way everybody is acting, you'd think he was.

fukk all that ring and Finals shyt. if thats what you base your judgement off of then no one will ever live up to those standards. dont be around here saying MJ is the goat if thats the case. IF YOU KNOW he is going to the Finals only to lose again to the Warriors, that says more about the team he is facing than him. so who the fukk else is going to beat the Warriors or Houston? even if it was 1-16 seeding

this logic that its better to go home than to make the Finals is beyond idiotic.

you do know 2007 was the first time the Cavs ever went to the Finals in team history right?

expect a 21 year old to "simply" beat a veteran team with avg of 60 wins for previous six seasons with a bunch of no-hopers brehs

 

[ISO]

Can't articulate an intellectual response, just as I expected

Post is full of BS...

fukk all them teams you mentioned. Y'all love to downplay LeBron's competition because he is dominant. None of them teams other than the 80's Lakers won shyt.

Hakeem is not a better scorer than LeBron. LeBron edges him in scoring titles, regular and post season scoring, highest scoring games, all of that. LeBron is a supreme perimeter talent and can impose his will as a scorer more than Hakeem. LeBron has more range than Hakeem and can get his shots up in the midrange in different types of ways as a wing player. Hakeem was a face-up big who hit midrange shots. LeBron didn't just use strength and athletic ability to score dumb ass, he has a ton of skill dribble jabs, step backs, fadeaways, etc. I know you've seen LeBron's game 5 against Detroit in 2007, that showed all the different ways he could score and how he could impose his will as a scorer when he's on. Lol, Hakeem was raw in college he had to develop all those skills the fukk are you talking about? Hakeem's only edge on LeBron is his defense, which is an edge he has over most players in NBA history as well as post play. LeBron with three titles, four MVP's, and a ton of longevity is clearly the better All-Time player.

 

[UpAndComing]

Post is full of BS...

fukk all them teams you mentioned. Y'all love to downplay LeBron's competition because he is dominant. None of them teams other than the 80's Lakers won shyt.

Hakeem is not a better scorer than LeBron. LeBron edges him in scoring titles, regular and post season scoring, highest scoring games, all of that. LeBron is a supreme perimeter talent and can impose his will as a scorer more than Hakeem. LeBron has more range than Hakeem and can get his shots up in the midrange in different types of ways as a wing player. Hakeem was a face-up big who hit midrange shots. LeBron didn't just use strength and athletic ability to score dumb ass, he has a ton of skill dribble jabs, step backs, fadeaways, etc. I know you've seen LeBron's game 5 against Detroit in 2007, that showed all the different ways he could score and how he could impose his will as a scorer when he's on. Lol, Hakeem was raw in college he had to develop all those skills the fukk are you talking about? Hakeem's only edge on LeBron is his defense, which is an edge he has over most players in NBA history as well as post play. LeBron with three titles, four MVP's, and a ton of longevity is clearly the better All-Time player.

You tried

 

[Premeditated]

I see it all the time in real life... I know so many Kobe stans that’s finally admitting that Lebron is better.

neg

 

[KOohbt]

We should have an embarrassing coli hot take thread. shyt would be funny af.