LeBron vs Jordan at age 31

[JameisNewton]

The problem with using this type of argument is that neither came in at the same age. LeBron got drafted at 18, Jordan got drafted at 21. So you're comparing 13 years of LeBron to 10 years of MJ

As you already know, MJ and LeBron are neck and neck in pretty much every advanced statistic known to the NBA in the context of best overall primes and peaks. So only titles matter now? Well...
MJ didn’t start playing in the NBA until he had already played three seasons of college basketball. The idea that you can penalize someone for being good enough at a sport to completely skip the college ranks is ridiculous. So really, LeBron was getting on-the-job training from 2003 to 2006 and his TRUE rookie year in the NBA was the 2006-2007 season (when he reached the NBA Finals). So through their first 10 seasons it’s:


MJ - 3 FMVPs, 3 Finals appearances 7 early exits
LeBron - 3 FMVPs, 7 Finals appearances, 3 early exits


So he’s already ahead of where Jordan was at the age of 31.



But then we forget that LeBron winning 1 ring in Cleveland counts for 5 rings won by any NBA player anywhere else, so he really has 7 rings and 7 FMVPs and is therefore the unanimous GOAT in any unbiased and somewhat quantitative person's eyes. However, if even THIS doesn’t convince you...



LeBron was born on December 30, which falls under the Zodiac sign for Capricorns. Who else was a Capricorn? Muhammad Ali. What animal is a Capricorn represented by? Oh yeah...a GOAT. It’s all about Capricorn power. HOW ARE YOU NOT GETTING THIS?


Cliffs: GOATs gonna GOAT

 

[SuaveHooper88]

it is CLEAR at this point the Lebron>>>Jordan

The only people who don't think this are haters and delusional fans who refuse to let ANYONE surpass their "old school greats" list

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Karl Malone has the second most points ever through sheer longevity. Is he the second best scorer ever? Is that how it works? Nah it isn't, that's fukking retarded. If you can accomplish more or similar stuff in less number of years/games then that means you were clear doing better in your career.

dude is purposely acting stupid... it ain't even worth it breh

i mean, i want you to put this in your own words

michael jordan was playin college at 19. lebron said fukk that, and went nba. and you give jordan more credit, because neither of them won a ring

shyt is retarded

jordan accomplished MORE in LESS time


i mean why is this so hard for you to accept.... no we are NOT giving jordan praise for going to college


we are also NOT giving praise to lebron for taking 3 years LONGER to accomplish what jordan did

3 rings in 10 years >>>>>>>>>> 3 rings in 13 years

 

[Illuminatos]

JUST A GRAPHIC I CAME ACROSS THAT SHOWS KOBE WAS MORE ACCOMPLISHED AT THAT POINT IN HIS CAREER.

You mean a graphic that literally cherry picked stats?

What happened to FG%, 3P%, MVPs, FMVPs, RPG, APG, All-Star Games, All NBA Teams, All NBA Defensive Teams?

What about the fact that Kobe has almost 300 more games worth of stats on Jordan?

These are what the numbers really look like when we give Jordan the same amount of games as Kobe.

29277 Points
5836 Rebounds
5012 Assists
2306 Steals
828 Blocks
6 Championships
930 Games

 

[Sccit]

You mean a graphic that literally cherry picked stats?

What happened to FG%, 3P%, MVPs, FMVPs, RPG, APG, All-Star Games, All NBA Teams, All NBA Defensive Teams?

What about the fact that Kobe has almost 300 more games worth of stats on Jordan?

These are what the numbers really look like when we give Jordan the same amount of games as Kobe.

29277 Points
5836 Rebounds
5012 Assists
2306 Steals
828 Blocks
6 Championships
930 Games

NOT AN OBJECTIVE COMPARISON, KOBE DIDNT PLAY 2 YEARS OF COLLEGE N GET HANDED THE KEYS TO A SHIITY FRANCHISE FROM DAY 1 WHERE HE WAS FREE TO PUT UP STATS OFF TOP

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

it is CLEAR at this point the Lebron>>>Jordan

The only people who don't think this are haters and delusional fans who refuse to let ANYONE surpass their "old school greats" list

and what about all the actual people who played the game... some vs both players... and still don't have bron above kobe in most instances


i guess they don't know what they're talking about either huh

 

[CarbonBraddock]

@Sccit i would get one of my heauxs to slap the shyt out of you fukkboy. u r one of the biggest fakkits on this site. reply to this if you like dikk in your mouf u homo.

 

[SuaveHooper88]

and what about all the actual people who played the game... some vs both players... and still don't have bron above kobe in most instances


i guess they don't know what they're talking about either huh

There is NO ONE past or present that thinks Kobe is higher than born all time.

It is now Unanimously agreed that lebron is either the GOAT or top 3 all time. No one has Kobe over LeBron. That would be disrespectful to LeBron

 

[fifth column]

There is NO ONE past or present that thinks Kobe is higher than born all time.

It is now Unanimously agreed that lebron is either the GOAT or top 3 all time. No one has Kobe over LeBron. That would be disrespectful to LeBron

Is there a comedy section to put this in

 

[Sccit]

@CarbonBraddock THIS HOW U KNOW BRON GROUPIES ARE FRUITCUPS. THEY GET HOMOTIONAL OVER THEIR KING WHEN TALKIN SPORTS.

 

[Sccit]

There is NO ONE past or present that thinks Kobe is higher than born all time.

It is now Unanimously agreed that lebron is either the GOAT or top 3 all time. No one has Kobe over LeBron. That would be disrespectful to LeBron

LMAO

EVERY1 RESPECTABLE, THE PLAYERS WHO HAVE PLAYED WITH BOTH, FROM SHAQ TO WADE TO DURANT TO JORDAN TO BARKLEY TO DIRK HAS KOBE WAY ABOVE BRON. STOP THAT.

HE SAID UNANIMOUS GOAT OR TOP 3 ROFL

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

There is NO ONE past or present that thinks Kobe is higher than born all time.

It is now Unanimously agreed that lebron is either the GOAT or top 3 all time. No one has Kobe over LeBron. That would be disrespectful to LeBron

nikka what


You don't watch much basketball breh

Most players put Kobe above bron on rings alone. I'm sorry. Didn't brehs post actual quotes from MJ and bird about Kobe being better.

They ain't the only ones

 

[Young Fab]

nikka what


You don't watch much basketball breh

Most players put Kobe above bron on rings alone. I'm sorry. Didn't brehs post actual quotes from MJ and bird about Kobe being better.

They ain't the only ones

And those people are idiots who don't need to be taken seriously.

LeBron James = All-Time Great Player
Kobe Bryant = All-Time Great Chucker.

 

[Young Fab]

As far as Bron vs Jordan, there's no point in this discussion cause everybody's already set in their stance.

According to most people MJ will NEVER be topped no matter what LeBron did in his career. If LeBron was indeed 3-0 in the Finals at this point and had the exact same stats/percentages/accolades people would still say Jordan is better simply cause he played in the 90's. No matter what happened, people would find a way to tip the scale in Jordan's favor. So there's really no point in arguing this.

As for these Forty Percent stans tryna to throw #24 into every MJ vs Bron debate, just stop. He's left out for a reason.

Forty Percent bein a Top 5 player all-time, that ship officially sailed June of this year. Wherever Forty is ranked all-time, LeBron is automatically 3 spots above it.

So please leave witchall purple & gold sigs.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

As far as Bron vs Jordan, there's no point in this discussion cause everybody's already set in their stance.

According to most people MJ will NEVER be topped no matter what LeBron did in his career. If LeBron was indeed 3-0 in the Finals at this point and had the exact same stats/percentages/accolades people would still say Jordan is better simply cause he played in the 90's. No matter what happened, people would find a way to tip the scale in Jordan's favor. So there's really no point in arguing this.

As for these Forty Percent stans tryna to throw #24 into every MJ vs Bron debate, just stop. He's left out for a reason.

Forty Percent bein a Top 5 player all-time, that ship officially sailed June of this year. Wherever Forty is ranked all-time, LeBron is automatically 3 spots above it.

So please leave witchall purple & gold sigs.

It's also a somewhat apples to oranges comparison to compare teams or players before the 2001-2002 rule changes that allowed some defenses because they weren't allowed the entire 80's and 90's (can't speak for the 70's, will look it up). These guys never faced a zone defense in the NBA. I think it was Clyde drexler that was quoted as saying he never learned to rotate over on defense. Those guys never faced a defense like what the Mavericks used in both of their finals trips, how the Spurs have defended the past 4-5 years, or how the Celtics and bulls played defense with thibs on the coaching staff. Schemes weren't allowed to be that complex.