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he looks weird as hell in that second pic
Lebron's offseason workout grind is a problem
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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A similar amount in ratio to the total amount of my posts - yes you will. What you think I only started arguing with lengthy posts from 2015?So if we go back prior to 2015 we'll find da same numba of threads wit countless posts laced wit da same Curry & GS passion from you as we've been subject too recently?
I mean even since 2015 I've been arguing with "da same Curry & GS passion" for other teams/players -
And that was all for Tony Parker and it went on through multiple threads. I guess that makes me a Tony Parker stan right?The only hilarious trash is coming from Spurs fans that are letting their homerism blind their view of reality.
with this bullshyt.
First you said -
"Parker spent the 1st half of his career not being able to make a shot outside of 12 feet...as good as he is now lets not act like teams went years packing the paint against him like he was 7 foot and letting hims shoot brick after brick after brick...
So Prime Manu was playing with a young point guard who couldn't shoot"
You were proven wrong, now you're moving the goalposts on some spurious shyt that didn't take place. I'l post the mid-range numbers again, since you didn't get the memo the first time around, and not this nonsense you're talking about when Parker gets around the free throw line players don't attempt to block his shot - these are numbers from the MID-RANGE -
Parker was hitting 36% on midrange jumpers (308 attempts) and Ginobili was hitting 24% on jumpers (37 attempts) in 2002/2003
Parker was hitting 36% on midrange jumpers (302 attempts) and Ginobili was hitting 33% on jumpers (86 attempts) in 2003/2004
Parker was hitting 40% on midrange jumpers (345 attempts) and Ginobili was hitting 28% on jumpers (71 attempts) in 2004/2005
Stop digging that hole and just admit you fukked up trying to lie and got your card pulled because you didn't think somebody would go all the way up to the mid-2000s and give you the quantity of jumpshots and percentages of both players. You may be able to pull that shyt with other dudes on this board but not me.
That's a two-way street, if he's leading the second unit, then he's playing against teams' benches and not against starters. And you can GTFOH acting like all Manu did was play with the second unit and not have consistent minutes with Duncan and Parker too. I see that shyt you're tryna pull like he was dragging Walker and Willis game-in, game-out with no help from anybody else or he hardly ever played with better players on some lone ranger type shyt.
These are all the five-man units over the first half of his career -
As you can see, Ginobili played heavy minutes with Parker and Duncan throughout the first six seasons of his career, and wasn't solely just playing with the second unit.
WHEN ARE YOU GOIN TO STOP LYIN nikka.
You can't be serious? First of all you claim that "Parker spent the 1st half of his career not being able to make a shot outside of 12 feet...as good as he is now lets not act like teams went years packing the paint against him like he was 7 foot and letting hims shoot brick after brick after brick... So Prime Manu was playing with a young point guard who couldn't shoot" - when it was Ginobili that had the worse shooting percentages out of the two, now you're grasping at straws by bringing up free-throw percentage.
Like I said before, stop digging that hole.
Nope, you're not gonna pull that shyt on me. Parker's midrange jumper percentages were 36%, 36% and 40% during those first three seasons - don't try and generalize his percentages by lowering them all the way done to 30%. The FG% isn't getting carried by the fact he's getting to the rim, he took over 300 attempts in the midrange in each of those seasons - that's around 30% of his total field goals, then you add in the 199 three-pointers he took over each of those seasons and that's close to half his total shot attempts were he's attempting from the mid-range and beyond.
Don't make it seem as though he's taking a large amount of his shots in the paint.
You're speaking as if his lower FT% actually had a significant impact on the game -
2002/2003 - 2.7 makes out of 3.5 free throw attempts - 75%
2003/2004 - 2.5 makes out of 3.7 free throw attempts - 70%
2004/2005 - 2.6 makes out of 4.0 free throw attempts - 65%
His attempts are so low, that even a few misses across an entire season can drastically alter the percentage.
This is what his free throw percentages would look like if he shot at 80% -
2002/2003 - 3.5 free throw attempts - 80% - only a difference of 10 free throws across the entire season (0.1 of a point Parker cost his team each game by not shooting 80% on free throws)
2003/2004 - 3.7 free throw attempts - 80% - only a difference of 27 free throws across the entire season (0.3 of a point Parker cost his team each game by not shooting 80% on free throws)
2004/2005 - 4.0 free throw attempts - 80% - only a difference of 37 free throws across the season (0.4 of a point Parker cost his team each game by not shooting 80% on free throws)
Like I said, it's wasn't some great injustice to their team success in the grand scheme of things.
We don't wanna get into how much points Ginobili left on the board from all his missed jumpers now do we?
at you lowering the percentages for the sake of your argument.
He shot 65% once in that three-season stretch and like I said it was only a difference of 37 missed free across the season - 0.4 of a point each game. And shooting 37%, 34% and 36% on jump shots is above the league average for players that attempt 800+ jumpers and even higher for PGs - again you fail to knowledge his mid-range percentages were among the best in the league. He actually shot better than Carmelo from mid-range during that stretch.
Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Parker was the #2 option.
Based on what?
Not only would his body not be able to handle playing 35-40 minutes over a season for entire decade and more but he never had the talent to pull that shyt off. If he can't shoot like Reggie and Ray, how the hell was his body going to handle taking more contact by taking more inside shots than they did? He can't even stay healthy with a limited offensive load on less minutes, how the fukk would he be able to play heavy minutes as well as an increase in work load?
He'd never last. He might be able to put up a few seasons, but over a decade? 0% chance.
He's been dealing with injuries for his entire NBA career while only averaging 27 minutes a game.
Where would he get his points from, since he isn't a great shooter from anywhere on the court?
He's only spent 3-4 seasons being a spot up shooter. The first four seasons Allen spent in Boston he could still create his own shot on the regular and drive too. Regardless he still had over a decade playing as the #1 option. Ginobili has never been the #1 option. Not even once. This isn't even an argument. Player rankings aren't based on hypothetical sketches, so there's no point in even suggesting what Ginobili could have done if he was the #1 option of a team. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
ol' that nikka up North is better than Jordan ass nikka.
From 1995-1999 he was in lower leagues and playing in Serie A2 (Italian second division). From then he went to have success in Serie A1 winning a few MVPs and had great team success over those few seasons until he went to SA.
I fail to see how that has any relevance to what Ray Allen was doing, as if leading a team in the Italian league is anything like leading an NBA team.
You do realize that you can apply that logic to every star player that's ever played in the league right (for as long as All-Star selections have existed)? Every star player plays with scrubs throughout his career, why do you think this only applies to Manu? This is some basic ass shyt. Regardless, this doesn't negate the fact that Ginobili has been he third option for most of his NBA career.
Stop talking as if he's been the Robin to Duncan's Batman for his entire career. Even Spurs fans will tell you that Parker was the #2 option.
onelastdeath
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Still be a top 3 player of all time without a consistent jumper brehs.
AV Dicey
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There are a lot of truisms in life.
Defense wins championships
Possession football may be attractive, but defence and counter attacking football will always win in the end
Never trust a jump shooting team
OG_StankBrefs
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A similar amount in ratio to the total amount of my posts - yes you will. What you think I only started arguing with lengthy posts from 2015?
I mean even since 2015 I've been arguing with "da same Curry & GS passion" for other teams/players -
And that was all for Tony Parker and it went on through multiple threads. I guess that makes me a Tony Parker stan right?
You really think pullin a single post for a single playa is goin to somehow negate wtf you've been doin for Curry & GS?
I'd undastand if it was maybe one, or two, or three, or four, or five, or eam six people makin claims about your transparency but you got a whole plethora of posters from all fan bases callin you out on ya
nikka, I don't eva wanna see da words disingenuous uttered from your font aimed at anybody on dis mufukka eva again wit dis wack shyt you pullin.
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you still the breh...Gil Scott-Heroin
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You really think pullin a single post for a single playa is goin to somehow negate wtf you've been doin for Curry & GS?
I just said it went on through multiple threads. It just gives you an insight on how I post. It doesn't matter the player or team - I'm still going to break down shyt. Don't be dense.
And I had countless posters accusing me of being a LeBron stan during 2011-2013. Just proves my point even more - you can't have a proper discussion without being accused of being a biased stan or a hater. You can't make an argument for a player without dudes saying you're a stan. It can't be possibly that you're trying to make sense of the situation, it has to be because you're a stan. No other explanation.
I'd undastand if it was maybe one, or two, or three, or four, or five, or eam six people makin claims about your transparency but you got a whole plethora of posters from all fan bases callin you out on yabullshyt .
nikka, I don't eva wanna hea da words disingenuous uttered from your font aimed at anybody on dis mufukka eva again wit dis garbage you pullin.
I still remember when dudes were given me shyt for defending LeBron's offensive skillet (more so his jumpshot) during the '12/'13 season; fast-forward to the Finals and he sealed the series with that jumper over Kawhi and you were in all the threads/posts I upped laughing at all the dudes who tried shyttin on his jumpshot.
SMH.
You can stop quoting me now with your bullshyt.
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Gil Scott-Heroincommented: (horrible ass posting. if you don't know what you're talking about STFU) Post #19973840
Look at all dem feelins caught now.
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Look at all dem feelins caught now.
Gil Scott-Heroin
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No feelings being caught, but all facts being thrown. 
stepbackj34spud
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With all due respect, he needs to work on his footwork and jumper. He might be the best in the game but it's still cringe worthy watching him get away with travels because of his sloppy footwork. And it's blaohemous to even compare a non shooter like LeBron to MJ who is arguably the best mid range shooter ever.
