LeBron's Over thinking is his biggest weakness. *Rational Discussion no hate needed*

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Bron sliced him up for 5 straight Finals games until the other night and was putting in work in last game before the Spurs entered the cheat code. The problem is that he's the only one who is consistently putting in work. With the defense focused on Bron like it is and them being "max" players and Bron being as unselfish as he is Wade and Bosh should be ing. Funny how nobody questions if they are "overthinking" after an L or a lackluster effort.

Where did I say Lebron was playing bad? I'm just talking out that Lebron rarely just catches and attacks but instead examines more against the Spurs which does make the offense a little out of sync. The ball isn't flying around against the Spurs near as much as it does against other teams.

 

[FTBS]

Where did I say Lebron was playing bad? I'm just talking out that Lebron rarely just catches and attacks but instead examines more against the Spurs which does make the offense a little out of sync. The ball isn't flying around against the Spurs near as much as it does against other teams.

When does Lebron ever just catch and attack? He always takes his time and examines the defense. The Heat's issues aren't on the offensive end...they want to play in the 90's. The problem is the video game type runs the Spurs have managed in 2 of the 3 games. The other night they had 25 after the first and 50 at the half and were getting blown out . That ain't got shyt to do with over thinking. That's under defensing and /// offensive execution on the other end.

 

[GatorStaceyAdams]

When does Lebron ever just catch and attack? He always takes his time and examines the defense. The Heat's issues aren't on the offensive end...they want to play in the 90's. The problem is the video game type runs the Spurs have managed in 2 of the 3 games. The other night they had 25 after the first and 50 at the half and were getting blown out . That ain't got shyt to do with over thinking. That's under defensing and /// offensive execution on the other end.

Yep, this has nothing to do with the Heat's offense.

The Heats defense (Lebron very much included) has been atrocious these finals.

 

[FTBS]

Yep, this has nothing to do with the Heat's offense.

The Heats defense (Lebron very much included) has been atrocious these finals.

It's actually only been two quarters. shyt has been nip and tuck outside of the 4th in game 1 and the 1st in game 3.

 

[Champ_KW]

this whole MIA vs Western conference bullshyt needs to stop.
Seriously, besides the Spurs teamball, what team in the Western conference has the personnel to beat MIA in a 7 game series? The Clippers? Memphis? Portland? Houston? Dallas? Maybe OKC. Your ass wouldnt even put money on any of those teams to beat MiA.
Let be real here, in the last 3 years, its being OKC and Spurs. OKC was unfortunate to lose Russ and Memphis sneaked in through that backdoor only to be swept in the WCF.

You completely missed the point. Nobody said the Western teams would beat MIA. I said imagine if MIA had to go through the West to even get to the finals. I was speaking of the grind. Potentially going through the Spurs, KD, Russ, Serge, Dwight, Harden, Aldridge, Lillard, Blake, CP3, Dirk, Gasol, Z-Bo, etc just to make it to the Finals is a grind. Giving Bron a pass for being "fatigued" for going through a cupcake run sounds ludicrous when you watch players come outta the West and nobody even think about using that narrative.

 

[Money!!]

It's actually only been two quarters. shyt has been nip and tuck outside of the 4th in game 1 and the 1st in game 3.

Spurs dropped like 35 in 3rd quarter of game 2 breh, they had a amazing quarter every game so far.

 

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Spurs dropped like 35 in 3rd quarter of game 2 breh, they had a amazing quarter every game so far.

True...that was the only quarter that MIA went stride for stride with them in.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

We have already established that hyperbole is par for the course and has been used for Kobe and others so I'm not sure why youkeep belaboring this piece. It's only a problem when Bron is getting his?

The lack of a rim protector puts even more strain on your perimeter defense and yes that role often falls into Lebron's lap by default...far more than any other perimeter great on a championship team.

For the life of me, I have never ever heard someone say Kobe exerts MORE effort than MJ in his career on a night to night basis. They all get there fair share of hyperbole but that's just going too far. If you can agree with that point I have nothing much else to say cause that's the main point I was arguing on. Oh and Lebron Is in no way shape or form a "rim protector". Lebron is a great defender when he's zoned in but don't try to act like he hasn't had Shane Battier and D wade for the better part of 4 years. You do realize Shane Battier has made a living on his wing defense in the league and D Wade is known to be a great defender when focused (3 all defensive teams) right? Plus Bird man is clearly the go to rim protector for the heat. To even insinuate LeBron is a rim protector is hilarious . Roy Hibbert is a rim protector. D Howard is a rim protecter. Deandre Jordan is a rim protector. Hell, even Javale McGee is a rim protector. But lebron?? No way he's a rim protector. .3 blocks per game and being a rim protector??? Yeah ok

 

[FTBS]

For the life of me, I have never ever heard someone say Kobe exerts MORE effort than MJ in his career on a night to night basis. They all get there fair share of hyperbole but that's just going too far. If you can agree with that point I have nothing much else to say cause that's the main point I was arguing on. Oh and Lebron Is in no way shape or form a "rim protector". Lebron is a great defender when he's zoned in but don't try to act like he hasn't had Shane Battier and D wade for the better part of 4 years. You do realize Shane Battier has made a living on his wing defense in the league and D Wade is known to be a great defender when focused (3 all defensive teams) right? Plus Bird man is clearly the go to rim protector for the heat. To even insinuate LeBron is a rim protector is hilarious . Roy Hibbert is a rim protector. D Howard is a rim protecter. Deandre Jordan is a rim protector. Hell, even Javale McGee is a rim protector. But lebron?? No way he's a rim protector. .3 blocks per game and being a rim protector??? Yeah ok

You do realize that my point is that the Heat lack a rim protector and thusly require more from Lebron on defense than teams in the past that have had rim protectors or at the very least some size near the basket right? I acknowledged Birdman in my first post and like I predicted it was ignored.

I never said the hyperbole was limited to effort. I am talking hyperbole in general. Hyperbole is hyperbole. The only point I am arguing is you attacking hyperbole as if it's not clearly hyperbole and as if Kobe and others haven't received their fair share.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Did people not sensationalize Mike and Kobe's exploits? They still do so to this day. The biggest difference between Lebron and Kobe/Mike is that in addition to carrying the scoring, playmaking, and perimeter defense load he is his teams best rebounder and rim protector (that plays the whole game that is, looks forward to this being overlooked).

You do realize that my point is that the Heat lack a rim protector and thusly require more from Lebron on defense than teams in the past that have had rim protectors or at the very least some size near the basket right? I acknowledged Birdman in my first post and like I predicted it was ignored.

I never said the hyperbole was limited to effort. I am talking hyperbole in general. Hyperbole is hyperbole. The only point I am arguing is you attacking hyperbole as if it's not clearly hyperbole and as if Kobe and others haven't received their fair share.

Oh so that's what you said....... I'm just trying to let you know Lebron is not a rim protector like you said. He just isn't. And for all that other hyperbole stuff who cares???? I'm addressing the current case. That fact that you are even referring to it being hyperbole means that you agree that it's not true. Don't know what you're even arguing for . It's like you are arguing that it's wrong for me to call it out as bs cause there are other stans of other superstars who make of bs too? That doesn't change that fact that what I said is correct

 

[CuzTheyKnowMe]

that's why you have Bosh who can be out in the perimeter to bring Duncan out but Spo wont utilize that.

The Heat is running a basic 4-1 set offense and motion which becomes broken and turns into a iso standoff.

Thats why they need to give Bosh more touches. He had only 12 touches in game 3, and he actually needs to be knocking down that 3 point shot for them to honor him.

 

[FTBS]

Oh so that's what you said....... I'm just trying to let you know Lebron is not a rim protector like you said. He just isn't. And for all that other hyperbole stuff who cares???? I'm addressing the current case. That fact that you are even referring to it being hyperbole means that you agree that it's not true. Don't know what you're even arguing for . It's like you are arguing that it's wrong for me to call it out as bs cause there are other stans of other superstars who make of bs too? That doesn't change that fact that what I said is correct

You do realize that "best" is a relative term right? I didn't say the dude was Hakeem or anything I said he was the best they got (amongst dudes that play major minutes) which to your point is an indictment of their interior D.I say that the fact that he doesn't have quality defenders of the basket does require him to do more than a guy that has more of a deterrent around the basket behind him. As with most things that the media and stans run with there is a level of truth but you must take it with a grain of salt. Hyperbole is an exaggeration not a complete fabrication.

As long as you are consistent I got no problem with it.

 

[HiphopRelated]

Yeah, one thing that is startling this series...is just how nonathletic and ineffective wade has become on the defensive end...used to be bron could take the number 1 scoring option on defense, wade take number 2, and they could lock in and you were just done...now...wade is so bad on defense...dude couldn't even guard danny green...gave him a little head fake at the 3 point line and green is going to the hoop with wade not even trying to recover...

When Leonard caught fire Spo didn't even try to put Wade on him...

Wade out here letting Boss Belli come off screens and shoot wide open shots...

I still remember in game 5 of Indiana how ineffective Paul George made Wade look...just locked wade down...dude couldn't take two dribbles without picking the ball up...

Bron is just slowly running out of gas...

Wade was just the PRIMARY defender on Paul George, and he only had one good game. Danny Green took Bron off the dribble too, guess Bron is an ineffective defender. Nobody plays Green for the dribble. Kawhi Leonard ain't no damn offensive threat and he was lighting shyt up too