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You're only going to go as far as your team takes you. Stop watching so much Skip Bayless bruh. Basketball is a team sport and even if you're the best player, if the other team has a better squad they will win. Outside of the finals vs Dallas, he never was on a superior team and "choked" away the game.

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2015? You really citing stats of Kobe post Achilles injury? When he was over the hill Kobe? Kobe stopped being Kobe in 2013 fool.

This is a classic example of misleading or faulty stats.

Keep forming your opinions based on a box score. The rest of us actually watch the games.

In his prime Kobe was UNMATCHED in the clutch. It's why all his peers respect him.
The only thing unmatched about Kobe's clutchness was his ability to convince you and lot of other people to run with the reputation instead of the reality. IF you actually watched his career and werent blinded by stanning you'd know that Kobe was never all that clutch. He shot more potential game-winners than probably anyone and missed the vast majority of them. What big postseason clutch moments does he even have? One gamewinner in the first round over Phoenix to gain a 3-1 lead that he would ultimately blow in spectacular fashion?

The truth about Kobe Bryant in crunch time

This is from 2011 before the injury. He was particularly atrocious in his last 5 years yes, but this article explains how even prime Kobe's clutchness was extremely overstated.

There's more statistics going back to the year 2000 that I can post if you want, that prove the same.

Its not easy to consolidate the perceived perfection of your heroes with the reality of their flaws. Try not to cry.
 

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2015? You really citing stats of Kobe post Achilles injury? When he was over the hill Kobe? Kobe stopped being Kobe in 2013 fool.

This is a classic example of misleading or faulty stats.

Keep forming your opinions based on a box score. The rest of us actually watch the games.

In his prime Kobe was UNMATCHED in the clutch. It's why all his peers respect him.
Don't make me go get them stats from before 2012 boy. Kobe was never clutch. He wasn't scared of the moment but he stayed missing game winners because he wanted to take bad shots.
 

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No. That's Caron Butler, Stephen Jackson, Jim Jackson, or just about every NBA player that gets on Undisputed that says that.

They all say Kobe is better than LeBron. Just accept the reality that according to nearly every NBA player, Kobe is simply better. PERIOD.
Ok Stephen A.
 

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I thought it was about him missing two FTs.
Every player in NBA history has missed free throws. And one of those two he missed on purpose. :dahell:

Lebron made 3 out of 4 of the free throws he was trying to hit in the final 5 seconds. You thought that was worth a thread. :heh:

Bron's sustained excellence has legit given his haters brain damage at this point. :mjlol:




Kobe has worse stats than Bron in the clutch.
kobe chased the moment. bron runs from it. this is glaringly obvious to people that actually understand the game
:dead: @ that bein the excuse for not bein clutch

First Take has really done a number on you dumb nikkas psyche.
Kobe forced bad shots in the moment. Clowns applaud that hero ball mentality.
Right, these nikkas stay using Skip Bayless talking points.

Case in point. :dead:

"It's okay if Kobe makes fewer big shots than Bron because he was chasing those shots, and that's what counts!" :gucci:
 

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Even Derek Fisher has 2 more rings than the chosen one. :mjlol:
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:mjlol::mjlol::russ::russ::bryan::bryan::bryan::bryan::bryan:
 

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You're only going to go as far as your team takes you. Stop watching so much Skip Bayless bruh. Basketball is a team sport and even if you're the best player, if the other team has a better squad they will win. Outside of the finals vs Dallas, he never was on a superior team and "choked" away the game.
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

Bron's teams have continually been packed with talent.

The reason his teams haven't been favored by the oddsmakers in years past isn't due to a deficiency in basketball-playing ability of the other members of his teams.

It's because of how Bron Ball negatively impacts the play of everyone else on his squad.

Bron Ball means that talented players are never able to get into any sort of rhythm :martin: - how would they when Bron reduces them to spot-up shooters, waiting on the perimeter for his drive-and-kick pass with 3 seconds left on the shot clock? :jbhmm::jbhmm:

Bron Ball means that his teams play atrocious defense :scust:- by dominating the ball and expending all of his mental and physical energy on offense (in the pursuit of his all-important stat line), Bron abandons his teammates on the other end, leaving them to struggle hopelessly in 4 on 5 matchups. :francis:

Bron Ball means that over time, his passive-aggressive:hhh:, ball-dominating approach inevitably results in unrealistic demands of his spot-up shooting teammates, wearing down morale and the overall team's will to win. :manny:

And of course, one of the absolute worst aspects of Bron Ball is how it stifles the development of his teammates. :scust::scust:

Bron teams don't practice (as told by the latest victim of Bron Ball, Isaiah Thomas :mjlol:). Why would they practice when there isn't any offensive system installed? :manny: The Cavs offense literally consists of just Bron doing things on the fly. :snoop:

Well, when Bron isn't in games, his teams (which again, rarely or never practice:snoop:), have no systematic approach to the game - and regardless of talent level, trying to maintain or extend a lead in the modern NBA without any sort of system installed is a recipe for disaster. :sadbron::snoop::snoop:

Friends don't let friends play Bron Ball.

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:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

Bron's teams have continually been packed with talent.

The reason his teams haven't been favored by the oddsmakers in years past isn't due to a deficiency in basketball-playing ability of the other members of his teams.

It's because of how Bron Ball negatively impacts the play of everyone else on his squad.

Bron Ball means that talented players are never able to get into any sort of rhythm :martin: - how would they when Bron reduces them to spot-up shooters, waiting on the perimeter for his drive-and-kick pass with 3 seconds left on the shot clock? :jbhmm::jbhmm:

Bron Ball means that his teams play atrocious defense :scust:- by dominating the ball and expending all of his mental and physical energy on offense (in the pursuit of his all-important stat line), Bron abandons his teammates on the other end, leaving them to struggle hopelessly in 4 on 5 matchups. :francis:

Bron Ball means that over time, his passive-aggressive:hhh:, ball-dominating approach inevitably results in unrealistic demands of his spot-up shooting teammates, wearing down morale and the overall team's will to win. :manny:

And of course, one of the absolute worst aspects of Bron Ball is how it stifles the development of his teammates. :scust::scust:

Bron teams don't practice (as told by the latest victim of Bron Ball, Isaiah Thomas :mjlol:). Why would they practice when there isn't any offensive system installed? :manny: The Cavs offense literally consists of just Bron doing things on the fly. :snoop:

Well, when Bron isn't in games, his teams (which again, rarely or never practice:snoop:), have no systematic approach to the game - and regardless of talent level, trying to maintain or extend a lead in the modern NBA without any sort of system installed is a recipe for disaster. :sadbron::snoop::snoop:

Friends don't let friends play Bron Ball.

:wow:
Not reading all of that my g. Keep it short and simple to the point. The fact that you typed sooo much with so many different Smiley's, tells me you're too emotionally invested into this.
 
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Kobe forced bad shots in the moment. Clowns applaud that hero ball mentality.
Forced or not Lebron would of benefited from that very mentality. Passing or “making the right play” hasn’t saved him from losing 5 out of 8 finals. He’s the frozen one, the false king. There’s a reason why many players of his own era are far more respected than him.
 

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Yeah and Kobe isn't clutch at all. He isn't afraid of the moment but he has a bad shooting percentage in the clutch. Jordan is clutch. Kobe isn't anywhere near that so I don't know why yall try so hard to put Kobe next to Jordan. Kobe had the skill set but chose to be a ball hog instead who takes bad shots.

On what planet is a man with 35+ game winners in his career, probably the most of any player, considered not clutch? Who cares if he missed, he was brave enough to take them. If only lebron had that mentality with his skill, we’d have more of 2016 and less of the traditional ass whoopings he takes. And what do you mean “try hard to put Kobe next to” as if nikkas wasn’t talking Kobe & Jordan before lebron even threw on a nba Jersey.

He came into the league being compared to him
 

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On what planet is a man with 35+ game winners in his career, probably the most of any player, considered not clutch? Who cares if he missed, he was brave enough to take them. If only lebron had that mentality with his skill, we’d have more of 2016 and less of the traditional ass whoopings he takes. And what do you mean “try hard to put Kobe next to” as if nikkas wasn’t talking Kobe & Jordan before lebron even threw on a nba Jersey.

He came into the league being compared to him
This man said who cares if he missed:mjlol:. The whole idea of being clutch is based upon your ability to MAKE the shot in late/close game scenarios. You're attempting to change the definition just to give Kobe credit for attempts. Kobe missed the vast majority of the time in late/close game situations. Meaning that the nikka isn't clutch. It's really that simple bruh. Take your fan bias out of it.
 

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This man said who cares if he missed:mjlol:. The whole idea of being clutch is based upon your ability to MAKE the shot in late/close game scenarios. You're attempting to change the definition just to give Kobe credit for attempts. Kobe missed the vast majority of the time in late/close game situations. Meaning that the nikka isn't clutch. It's really that simple bruh. Take your fan bias out of it.
He made 38 game winners in his career, the most of probably any player:skip:and the mindset of going head up late in the game is just as important cause why would you take all those shots if you didn’t have the mindset to match? fukk he isn’t clutch? Nikka please. and this thread about lebron right? What is the main criticism of lebron? That he doesn’t look to score a lot of times in clutch moments, hence the reason I said “
Who cares if he missed, he was brave enough to take them. If only lebron had that mentality with his skill, we’d have more of 2016 and less of the traditional ass whoopings he takes.
 

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He made 38 game winners in his career, the most of probably any player:skip:and the mindset of going head up late in the game is just as important cause why would you take all those shots if you didn’t have the mindset to match? fukk he isn’t clutch? Nikka please. and this thread about lebron right? What is the main criticism of lebron? That he doesn’t look to score a lot of times in clutch moments, hence the reason I said “
How many did he miss and don't lie:sas2:. There's a reason you want the focus to be off the amount he attempted:sas2:.
 
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