Nas's flow on IWW > Illmatic, perhaps from the production.
Illmatic is just fukking lightning in a bottle though
Illmatic is just fukking lightning in a bottle though
Let's actually have a hip-hop conversation for once... Does anybody else have "IWW > Illmatic"?
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Favorite song on the album besides The Message
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I think illmatic is the best rap album ever made and I'd put every track on a best of nas tape with the exception of maybe one time 4 your mind(which I still love) Take it in blood, shootouts, I gave you power, if i ruled the world, and maybe the message are the only tracks from the 2nd album that I'd add. Production being the biggest factor.
The revisionist history is what kills me most about said album. I remember the stans having younger people fooled into thinking it was actually a 5 mic album until I posted my copy of the source on sohh reviewing it as a 4 mic album.
The revisionist history is what kills me most about said album. I remember the stans having younger people fooled into thinking it was actually a 5 mic album until I posted my copy of the source on sohh reviewing it as a 4 mic album.
I'll take illmatic, because I don't skip any songs, but songs like suspect, I gave you power,shootouts, the message, take it in blood, I think he stepped his pen up even more. I look at illmatic as a realistic portrayal of his life and it was written as mob flicks on wax lol, I always appreciated it in its own right though
Wouldnt mind reading that
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As someone who is old enough to remember the impact of IWW...
Let's just say the summer of 96 is one of my fav times in hip hop....it was ruled by Pac, Fugees & Nas
I can unequivocally say that Nas would have finished #2 in terms of best MCs in 96. Now remember this is when Jay dropped RD, Big was on hiatus but still relevant, Pac dropped AEOM, Snoop was crafting the Doggfather, Fugees dropped their album
During the release of IWW, the general hip hop fan liked the album....the hip hop purists thought Nas sold out
In all honesty, IWW introduced Nas to a wider audience...Nas was not a hip hop household name in 94, no matter what ppl tell you
IWW is not as lyrically complex as Illmatic but Nas had enough juice w/ IWW to still be considered top 3 in the game
In hindsight, IWW is a classic...Pac was even inspired by the album saying he wrote Me & My GF after hearing I Gave You Power
Personally, I have IWW as Nas 3rd best album after Illmatic & Stillmatic but don't sleep on IWW bc it captured the landscape of rap well in 96
Let's just say the summer of 96 is one of my fav times in hip hop....it was ruled by Pac, Fugees & Nas
I can unequivocally say that Nas would have finished #2 in terms of best MCs in 96. Now remember this is when Jay dropped RD, Big was on hiatus but still relevant, Pac dropped AEOM, Snoop was crafting the Doggfather, Fugees dropped their album
During the release of IWW, the general hip hop fan liked the album....the hip hop purists thought Nas sold out
In all honesty, IWW introduced Nas to a wider audience...Nas was not a hip hop household name in 94, no matter what ppl tell you
IWW is not as lyrically complex as Illmatic but Nas had enough juice w/ IWW to still be considered top 3 in the game
In hindsight, IWW is a classic...Pac was even inspired by the album saying he wrote Me & My GF after hearing I Gave You Power
Personally, I have IWW as Nas 3rd best album after Illmatic & Stillmatic but don't sleep on IWW bc it captured the landscape of rap well in 96
i agree with that younger people will probably find iww more accessible with the cleaner more friendly production
i had it above illmatic at one point too but illmatic ages like fine wine while as years have gone by i notice the subpar lyricism and watered down production on iww more and more
illmatic is the definitive ny rap album. its like a time capsule of that particular time in hip hop.
i had it above illmatic at one point too but illmatic ages like fine wine while as years have gone by i notice the subpar lyricism and watered down production on iww more and more
illmatic is the definitive ny rap album. its like a time capsule of that particular time in hip hop.
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No just no. We've had this discussion a million times.
Also, the production isn't better it was just a more cinematic album with better mixing while Illmatic was more gritty. Illmatic is 5 Mics, IWW is 4.5 IMO.
Also, the production isn't better it was just a more cinematic album with better mixing while Illmatic was more gritty. Illmatic is 5 Mics, IWW is 4.5 IMO.
I know it's blasphemous as a Nas Stan, but IWW's
my GOAT Esco album
...undeniably, IllMATIC
makes the cypher complete
But, it doesn't have The Message/I Gave You Power/ Take It in Blood, nor Silent Murder
my GOAT Esco album...undeniably, IllMATIC
makes the cypher completeBut, it doesn't have The Message/I Gave You Power/ Take It in Blood, nor Silent Murder
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Ironically I heard IWW before I even heard Illmatic in full.. IWW was so dope it motivated me to go back and check for his first album..
IWW the tape version > Illmatic
Illmatic > IWW the CD version
Illmatic > IWW the CD version
Pretty much
Why? That track is lowkey ass. The only real flaw on the album