Let's be clear, a 'No' vote for the insurrection impeachment article is political suicide

JLova

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You posting cliche online pandering nonsense :mjlol:

End of the day, this is exactly what it is -- power control. GOP can start to take back their party by impeaching a lame duck president and keep him out of politics forever.

It's a political power play that smart politicians have the common sense to implement. McConnell is doing just that right now. It's the GOPs only play if they want to salvage their party for the foreseeable future.

fukk moral bankruptcy. This is politics breh

I’d let it play out before puffing out that chest.
 

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The new breed of Q MAGAtard Republicans no longer care even about corporate shyt. They can raise all the money they need through their zealot rube supporters or a few select radical millionaires and billionaires and they actually BELIEVE the toxic garbage spewed through fringe channels unlike the McConnell elders who merely dog whistled it but showed a very different face depending on who they were talking to.

So the R Civil War, if there is one, is poised to go on for as much as a generation.

And I still doubt approximately 17 R Senators will convict, because with Biden in power by the time it gets voted on, they'll basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the whole thing.

If McConnell however calls the Senate back in session this week - all bets are off. Because then he'll have evaluated the whole picture as being so catastrophic (maybe because he knows where the intelligence is going) they have to write more history.
 

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The new breed of Q MAGAtard Republicans no longer care even about corporate shyt. They can raise all the money they need through their zealot rube supporters or a few select radical millionaires and billionaires and they actually BELIEVE the toxic garbage spewed through fringe channels unlike the McConnell elders who merely dog whistled it but showed a very different face depending on who they were talking to.

So the R Civil War, if there is one, is poised to go on for as much as a generation.
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I don’t think the corporations/mega donors believe this.

Until now it was just a means to an end. They voted Republican so they got the votes they needed to push their agenda while paying lip service to conspiracy theorist. Ted Cruz came in Tea Party crazy but looks moderate in comparison now.

I don’t think there are enough small donors to fund enough candidates to over power the old style Republicans but the issue of gerrymandering makes it easier to primary moderate Republicans cause conservative media will give the radical element a voice.
 

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The DNC has the Repubs raked over the coals right now and need to go full speed getting shyt through. The only way to preserve the Republican party is to basically take this asswhipping, call it Bi-Partisan collaboration, and hope they don't get primaried by radicals in 2022.

The Republican party is in genuine peril. The smartest ones are probably hoping Trump gets arrested sooner than later as if he gets his media platform up and going he's going to wreak chaos on the Party with his narratives and endorsements in races up and down the ticket.
He is going to wreak havoc on the GOP. They let a lion out of the cage and it started biting their hands.
 
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I'm not sure why, but a lot of people in this thread are overestimating American voters.

Around half of voters are going to vote Republican regardless of what happens with Trump. If anything Dems should be worried about the House next year.
With the amount of money Biden and Democrats in Congress are poised to give the American people in his first 100 days of office, the chances of Democrats losing the House are ridiculously low. That upcoming stimulus bill is about to put a lot of money in our pockets. The party that made it happen and the one that fought it won’t be forgotten.

:unimpressed:
 

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With the amount of money Biden and Democrats in Congress are poised to give the American people in his first 100 days of office, the chances of Democrats losing the House are ridiculously low. That upcoming stimulus bill is about to put a lot of money in our pockets. The party that made it happen and the one that fought it won’t be forgotten.

:unimpressed:

Not necessarily, American voters have very short memories.

A lot of people who hated the GOP during the Bush era hopped right back on board as soon as the Tea Party/MAGA shyt started. I doubt anybody is still bringing up the stimulus in a year and a half. And let's not forget that the GOP picked up seats last November despite generally being against stimulus payments.
 

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I don’t think the corporations/mega donors believe this.

Until now it was just a means to an end. They voted Republican so they got the votes they needed to push their agenda while paying lip service to conspiracy theorist. Ted Cruz came in Tea Party crazy but looks moderate in comparison now.

I don’t think there are enough small donors to fund enough candidates to over power the old style Republicans but the issue of gerrymandering makes it easier to primary moderate Republicans cause conservative media will give the radical element a voice.
They'll frame it as a Trump thing rather than a Republican thing and quietly slink back when it blows over.

There are very rich and established men into MAGA/white nationalism. I remember looking over the list of donations to Darren Wilson's fundraising during the Ferguson protests. Corporate CEO's, names and faces attached, donating tens to hundreds of thousands. It is no surprise at all some showed up in person for the coup.

The only Republicans who denounce Trump are doing so because of these historically bad optics. They're absolutely drinking that kool aid tho, by the gallon.
 

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They'll frame it as a Trump thing rather than a Republican thing and quietly slink back when it blows over.

There are very rich and established men into MAGA/white nationalism. I remember looking over the list of donations to Darren Wilson's fundraising during the Ferguson protests. Corporate CEO's, names and faces attached, donating tens to hundreds of thousands. It is no surprise at all some showed up in person for the coup.

The only Republicans who denounce Trump are doing so because of these historically bad optics. They're absolutely drinking that kool aid tho, by the gallon.
Yeah Wal-Mart doesn’t mean the Walton family ain’t still donors
 

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It's a simple Yes or No to this singular article. There was loss of life, intimidation and threats to murder the Vice President of the United States.

To vote No when there is plain video showing Trump direct over 15,000 people to Capital Hill where all three branches of the government was present is unforgivable. The terrorists actions will live on in infamy, thanks in large part to their own cellphones and Go Pro cameras.

IMO, this is worse than the Gulf War vote because that was based on false intel, and that was held against politicians for 15 years.

Trump must be impeached and to vote against it will result in your political downfall.

Men die, women die, but videos don't.
Party over country says otherwise. Most republicans don't think Trump did anything wrong.
 
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