Lets be honest fellas: Is Hardcore Drug use some down south shyt?

[IllmaticDelta]

You need to find me multiple songs of New York Rappers, prominent ones making various tracks promoting of talking of drug use like the ones today are.

the op didn't make a thread about the promotion of those drugs. He made a thread flat out asking is the south the origin of hardcore drugs

Majority of people are doing drugs full stop, but while for example someone Like Ja Rule was abusing ecstasy that part of his life never went into his music because it wasn't 'cool' to be a user even though everyone was doing it.

 

[Finesse]

the op didn't make a thread about the promotion of those drugs. He made a thread flat out asking is the south the origin of hardcore drugs

 

[DoomzdayzV]

texas is the dust capitol of the universe...mufukkas fry their brains out down there

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Who the fukk you think influenced the fashion and slang of 80s and 90s hip hop??

NEW YORK DRUG DEALERS!!!

hell probally the most influential subculture in hip hop period...

The South "drug subculture' has nothing on 80s and 90s NYC Crack era...

If you were to do a ALL STAR TEAM of black drug kingpins in America...

HARLEM alone would have the starting 5

Bumpy Johnson

Frank Matthews

Nicky Barnes

Fritz

Alpo

You ever heard of the Bay Area
Or LA?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

PCP is not heroin.
Outside of dust and x, maybe some coke, that's it. Only certain cities fukk with dust, anyway.
Texas been on "black people popping pills, etc" since the mid 90s.
Philly is weird. They been on that tip too...first up north city on the lean wave, nikkas BEEN doing xans...
Very strange. The South was always extra with the white drugs tho. People who haven't lived in both shouldn't be in the thread. There's always a country ass nikka who VISITED a major northern city...who thinks they know something... especially you square ass nikkas.

This nikka just named 4 drugs and said that’s it

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

You ever heard of the Bay Area
Or LA?

Name 4 other BlACK Kingpins from the Bay besides Felix who was getting it like Barnes... Matthews and Bumpy



Of course LA would make the cut with just Waterhead Bo and Ross most definitely

But hands down NYC drug Culture was still more influential

 

[Juneya]

Watching this VLAD interviews. Something just clicked with me. Here you have Turk casually talking bout how he used to do coke and heron as a teenager wild casually.



Then you think about Texas and they culture. Memphis and how they got down and BMF and the ATL drug epidemic

All of that is literally just the old school version of what is effecting the world right now. Heroin,Coke, Pills and Lean. It just took Wayne a fellow down south artist to make it popular.

But then when you really this about it you cant even fault Wayne for his drug usage. It was part of his culture. He simply mixed Texas and New Orleans drug culture and went global with it.

Dmx is a literal rapping crack head.
Wu tang openly snorts coke and raps about it.
Beanie Siegel and his bg like addictions
Juelz Santana ruined his career on lean

Just to point out that this is not a down south thing

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Name 4 other BlACK Kingpins from the Bay besides Felix who was getting it like Barnes... Matthews and Bumpy



Of course LA would make the cut with just Waterhead Bo and Ross most definitely

But hands down NYC drug Culture was still more influential

Bruh, you can’t start off by saying besides Felix



Darryl Reed aka Lil D

Charles Cosby

James Beasley Jr


James Beasley Jr : Ex-drug kingpin determined to gain redemption
May 7, 2012
by Dennis Haywood

San Francisco – The name Beasley has rung true in the streets of Bayview Hunters Point since before the Double Rock housing projects were built in the 1950s. Of all of the Beasleys, there was none who controlled the streets like James Beasley Jr. As told to his daughter Monet, James tells his amazing story in the soon-to-be-released autobiography and documentary entitled “Deep Rooted,” both of which are being developed into reality by Concrete Jungle Publishing.

James describes how he rose from the mean streets of Hunters Point to become possibly the largest cocaine dealer in the history of California. At his peak, $3 million drug deals were common and there were no luxuries unobtainable. He had luxury homes in different cities and was buying and developing real estate before the housing boom. James Beasley Jr. attended the Grammys with the Jacksons as a guest and he ran a criminal organization that made him a millionaire 20 times over.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

They were doing angel dust and shyt in the west and east back in the 80s. You crazy if you think all those gang bangers in the 80s weren’t high as fukk half the time whether it was coke, dust, whatever

look no further than this guy

That same year, Williams and three fellow gang members, under the influence of PCP-laced cigarettes, drove to a convenience store with the intention of robbing the clerk. According to later police reports, 26-year-old store clerk Albert Owens was walked into a back room by Williams while the other members of the gang took money from the register. Williams then shot out the security monitor in the back room and killed Owens with two execution-style shots to the back. The group made $120 from the transaction. Williams later denied killing Owens.

On March 11 of that same year, prosecutors say Williams broke into the office of the Brookhaven Motel in Los Angeles. Once inside, he allegedly killed three members of the Taiwanese family who owned and operated the motel. A ballistics expert linked the shotgun shell at the motel to Williams' gun, and several gang members testified that Williams had bragged about the crime. Williams denied this shooting as well, claiming that he was framed by other Crips members.

 

[African Peasant]

OP"s question went above a lot of people head.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Pcp crack was def a NY thing too, not exclusively. But alot of rappers from the 80's/90's was on that crack wave, pretty sure russell simmons discussed it an interview.

When we hear people talk about Hip Hop greats that have passed , we often hear of Tupac , Biggie , Jam Master Jay and maybe even Scott La Rock. But very seldom is the name Keith “Cowboy” Wiggins mentioned. Keith Cowboy laid the foundation for the call & response tactics that we have seen almost EVERY Emcee use since the 70s. Everytime you hear “throw your hands in the air” , “Say hoooo” etc. etc. you are listening to the creations of Cowboy. Unfortunately Cowboy did not get the chance to see his contributions reach every corner of the globe. Its only right that Cowboy’s story be told by those closest to him – his family members & fellow Furious 5 brothers.

Before you think that rappers dying young is just a modern thing, let’s take a trip back in the Wayback Machine as tragedy strikes one of the innovators of the movement. Keith “Cowboy” Wiggins was one of the original members of Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, appearing on tracks like “The Message” and “White Lines.” Unfortunately, the anti-cocaine message of the latter was lost on Cowboy, who developed a monolithic crack habit. When the group split up for the second time in ‘89, Cowboy’s soon died of complications from the #AIDS virus.

 

[getmoney310cpt]

its nikkas out here in cali smoking meth now them mexican and white bytches turning them out

 

[ZEB WALTON]

I dont know if op is strictly blamining the south or saying that the new lean based movement came from the south, which i agree with because name any codein drops before screw.

Texas n memphis been heavy lean sippers and that whole contingent moved all over the country.

Cash money some old dope sniffers too whereas dope is strictly a no no in hip hop culture (until a year or two from now im guessing)

So it was a easy change for wayne to make. He did give it a popularity that drugs never really had in hip hop sides weed.

U can say wu sniffed coke n smoked dust but i wouldnt say thry made it the thing to do like wayne did with lean.

 

[KingsOfKings]

Darryl Reed aka Lil D