Let's be real: Chris Paul just isn't great enough
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Phoenix joined the 2006-07 Dallas Mavericksand 2015-16 San Antonio Spurs as the third team in league history to win at least 64 games in the regular season and fail to advance to at least the conference finals. The 60 combined points the Suns lost Games 6 and 7 by represented the second-largest score difference over Games 6 and 7 of a playoff series, going all the way back to 1962 when the Warriors beat the St. Louis Bombers by 62 over the final two games, per ESPN Stats & Information research.
He sure does seem to continually be part of colossal, historical failures. Guess it’s just coincidental or something.
He sure does seem to continually be part of colossal, historical failures. Guess it’s just coincidental or something.
These last two games were abysmal fam
That and it nitpicks and ignores moments of him fukking up. Nobody has the time to go back through all that. All this talk about how hard it is for a pass first PG to win yet he keeps taking super max deals like he’s about to lead them. He could’ve taken less and gone to Miami or something or been on the Lakers. I’m not trying to hear it.
he's just a stat padder at this point in his career
imagine paying a 40 year old chris paul 40 mill a year
Of course that nikka isn't going to retire with like 90 plus million remainig
imagine paying a 40 year old chris paul 40 mill a year
Of course that nikka isn't going to retire with like 90 plus million remainig
He's an all-time great PG, always has been, but it's ish like "Point God" and "Top 3 PG of all-time" that his fans try to paint him as, that have people going to the other side of him being highly criticized. He gets more passes than anyone, and it's never his fault, yet the other players that achieved more or the same aren't as great or are lesser than. He's probably in the 7-10 range.
IMO the reason CP shouldn't be as high is that he never seems to get his team the easy shots/layups when it matters. Booker is struggling, okay, as the "point god" and "greatest general the game has ever seen" get the ball out of his hands and get him some easy layups. This is something that every all-time great PG has done, time and time again. Chris Paul just doesn't seem to do that. Even as a Clipper, he had an All-Star running man, DPOY, 6th Man, one of that era's best spot up shooters, and would still lose. At some point, you have to look at the common denominator.
IMO the reason CP shouldn't be as high is that he never seems to get his team the easy shots/layups when it matters. Booker is struggling, okay, as the "point god" and "greatest general the game has ever seen" get the ball out of his hands and get him some easy layups. This is something that every all-time great PG has done, time and time again. Chris Paul just doesn't seem to do that. Even as a Clipper, he had an All-Star running man, DPOY, 6th Man, one of that era's best spot up shooters, and would still lose. At some point, you have to look at the common denominator.
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I don't blame him for all of the failures because he has balled out in some of the series he's lost.
Sometimes it's not just meant to be
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CP3 really might not get a ring unless he ring chasers. He’s about to fall off the cliff within 2 seasons at his age and size. He still has big performances but he can’t keep it up anymore.
He has a full history of this shyt though.He's 37 and past his prime
The fact he played as well as he did this year was a miracle but father time is undefeated
I'm a huge CP3 supporter, but having the best record in the league, being up 2-0 then 3-2 in the same series and then catching a 40 point beatdown in game 7 in your gym is inexcusable.
Suns going to have a long summer reflecting.
Suns going to have a long summer reflecting.
Lmao
You're talking about cherry picking when YOU ARE cherry picking individual games?
I was talking about the SERIES, not just the elimination game.
For instance:
2015: Why are you ignoring that the team blew a 3-1 lead. Why are you ignoring game 6 when the team blew a 20 pt lead?
Paul didn't play well during that stretch.
You just completely glossed over that.
2019: Kd got hurt, the Warriors bench was weak. In game 6, Curry outclutched Paul. Curry got 33 points in that second half, and drained 2 contested threes to close it out. Paul didn't do enough at the end of that game.
2021: did you really just say he outplayed Reggie Jackson like that means something
KAWHI LEONARD GOT HURT why are you ignoring the game 3 of the finals when he collapsed? Why you ignoring he lost 4 straight after up 2-0?
These are all strawman arguments. I never said he got outplayed by the other team's point guard, I said he was outplayed period.
I never said he didn't play well in elimination games - I've been saying that his lack of playoff success is down to him just never being the best player on the floor past the 2nd round.
You bringing up that he's a 6'0 foot guard that can't physically impose himself and that hes a pass first point guard adds to my point.
There's someone else on the floor that can do that over him: Luka, Giannis, etc.
There's someone on the other team that can outscore him, physically impose their will, and have a bigger impact on the game than him.
If he can't do that, that don’t call him prop him up so high. Don't argue he's the best point guard ever and that he's a point God and rank him that high on lists. That's my point.
He ain't transcendent.
CP3 HAS BEEN SURROUNDED
BY GOOD TALENT FOR THE LAST
10 YEARS AND MADE IT PASS
THE 2ND RD 2 TIMES.
nikkaS ACT LIKE THIS DUDE
HAS BEEN ON MEDIOCRE TEAMS.
Then why is it all his fault, then???? That's weird logic.
Especially them Clippers teams where Blake Griffin got exposed for getting off on athleticism when it matter the most
fukking Harden, 100% healthy, disappeared that year the Rockets legit should've gone all the way
The Thunder were a talented team?
Team always get better when he arrives and rarely, if ever, better off without him.