Lets be real. The only reason why Biggie is in anybodys top 5 is because Pac shytted on him.

[LandryFieldsDad]

You're an idiot and you're actually talking presumptions

Tupac signed a great contract

You would know that if you actually saw the contract

Once again, let me reiterate. Tupac signed one of the best contract you'll ever see

and you're an idiot for talking about assumptions, your credibility is void . . you're the type of person that will say something that you do not know . . . therefore you're retarded

 

[Mac Casper]

Why do you keep brining up his contract signing with DR? Yes his contract was flawed and he got screwed over, but guess what it's been happening in the music industry since it began. Don't care if I were sitting in rikers I would sign the contract with Sugar bear.

Looks like I'll be educating you to

You really need to step it up dude. I'm not even a stan . . you're obviously a stan . . and your stannism sucks. You should really spend some time educating yourself on the subject

 

[Nomad1]

Because u want to pretend you're not all over this board hating on big twenty years after his death I'll do the same

I dont act like I dont like Big. I bought his first tape when it came out, got it as a gift from my dad. Pac got a messed up contract, laugh all you want. Biggie is dead too

 

[Mac Casper]

Do you wanna continue being a dumbass . . because I'm not going to go easy on you. Cue a smiley all you want, you're a post away from having your credibility destroyed. You should really choose your battles more wisely

 

[Nomad1]

Looks like I'll be educating you to

You really need to step it up dude. I'm not even a stan . . you're obviously a stan . . and your stannism sucks. You should really spend some time educating yourself on the subject

I saw the doc that had the DR contract. Suge scammed him on a few things. Yes im a stan but I don't distort history like piggie stans.

 

[YeLovesBoston]

Why does there have to arguments between Tupac and Biggie fans?

Discrediting any of these legends is doing wrong to them and hip hop.

 

[YeLovesBoston]

 

[CHERUB]

Why do u coli nikkas insist on shyting on hiphops Mt Rushmore nikkas? If aint Pac its Big Nas or Jay. I dont see yall making threads on fukking Mac Dre. Or 8 Ball & MJG. Or Trick Daddy. Its always the Godfathers. Its like its some kinda jealousy or wierd admiration shyt is ANNOYING. nikkas is bored

 

[Nomad1]

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

Do you wanna continue being a dumbass . . because I'm not going to go easy on you. Cue a smiley all you want, you're a post away from having your credibility destroyed. You should really choose your battles more wisely

For instance, allegedly Tupac was charged $23,857 for repairs to a Porsche automobile; while Suge Knight owned a Porsche, Tupac did not. Or this: allegedly Tupac was charged more than $120,000 in rental costs for a Malibu home that was actually occupied by Kenner.

Tupac was charged $2,700 for another Death Row performer's child-support payment. The suit further alleges that in February 1996, Tupac was billed $115,507 for jewelry purchased from a business owned by a personal friend of Knight's accountant

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

Do you wanna continue being a dumbass . . because I'm not going to go easy on you. Cue a smiley all you want, you're a post away from having your credibility destroyed. You should really choose your battles more wisely

The contract locked Tupac into a Faustian deal with Knight, who agreed to put up Tupac's bail money in exchange for his signature on the three-album, $3.5 million-plus contract. Where were all the advances and royalties the contract promised?

Moreover, how could her son produce three CDs in the last year of his life, sell reportedly more than $60 million worth of records — enough to make him one of the top-selling domestic artists — yet still wind up an alleged several million dollars in debt to Death Row?

 

[Nomad1]

For instance, allegedly Tupac was charged $23,857 for repairs to a Porsche automobile; while Suge Knight owned a Porsche, Tupac did not. Or this: allegedly Tupac was charged more than $120,000 in rental costs for a Malibu home that was actually occupied by Kenner.

Tupac was charged $2,700 for another Death Row performer's child-support payment. The suit further alleges that in February 1996, Tupac was billed $115,507 for jewelry purchased from a business owned by a personal friend of Knight's accountant

The suit contends that Kenner not only failed to protect Tupac's interests but actually collaborated with Knight to milk cash from Tupac's royalty accounts with faked expense claims.

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

The suit contends that Kenner not only failed to protect Tupac's interests but actually collaborated with Knight to milk cash from Tupac's royalty accounts with faked expense claims.

Pac was an incredible artist.
One of the most talented people ever associated with rap.

It's a shame him and big were taken in their primes. Don't know why u feed into that silly feud twenty years later

 

[Mac Casper]

Pac might have signed the worst contract in rap history.

How many child support payments and car notes was pacs contract paying for?

Thug life but I'll sign my life away to get out of rikers

I saw the doc that had the DR contract. Suge scammed him on a few things. Yes im a stan but I don't distort history like piggie stans.

Time to educate you two

Welcome to class

First of all, you two have a clear misunderstanding of the role of a contract as you're attributing accounting to the contract. The contract does not ensure legitimate accounting. Your argument is out of the contract's hands . . a contract sets the parameters for how revenue should be accounting. Accounting is an actual activity. A contract is a piece of paper - a legal agreement. Should this issue go to court it would be litigated by the parameters of the contract

The abuse of Tupac's royalties 100% a result of "clever" accounting

As I'm typing this @LandryFieldsDad further shows that he lacks understanding of the difference between a contract and accounting

For instance, allegedly Tupac was charged $23,857 for repairs to a Porsche automobile; while Suge Knight owned a Porsche, Tupac did not. Or this: allegedly Tupac was charged more than $120,000 in rental costs for a Malibu home that was actually occupied by Kenner.

Tupac was charged $2,700 for another Death Row performer's child-support payment. The suit further alleges that in February 1996, Tupac was billed $115,507 for jewelry purchased from a business owned by a personal friend of Knight's accountant

for a response to this, see above


There's very few deals you'll find better than the deal that Tupac signed

Now for the only binding facts in

"Danamora Agreement“

Sept. 15,1995

Suge Knight is to be my manager for all music endorsers for a period of three years. Suge will cause a contract to be entered into by and between Tupac Shakur and Death Row records which will include the following deal points:

Album One:

1. To be released in 1995. Album to consist of already recorded material to by remitted by Dr. Dre. Snoop Doggy Dog shall make a guest appearance.

2. Tupac shall receive the following advances:

a. One million upon execution of documents.

b. 125,000.00 for purchase of car.

c. 120,000.00 expense allowance for 12 months.

d. 250,000.00 legal fund to be spent through Oagletree at the direction of Tupac.

e. Death Row shall secure the services of David Kenner to handle Tupac's Los Angeles cases.

3. Tupac shall receive 18 points with one point bump at gold and platinum.

Album Two

1. 18 points - 1 point bump at gold and platinum.

2. 1 million advance call in for every million records sold on album one.

Album Three



1. 18 points - 1 point bump at gold and platinum.

2. (not legible) every million records sold on album two.

Dated: September 16, 1995 /s/ Tupac Shakur

Dated: September 15, 1995 /s/ Suge Knight

On September 16, 1995, Knight and Kenner presented Tupac with a handwritten agreement which Tupac and Knight then signed while in prison (the "Danamora Agreement").

Among other things, the Danamora Agreement provided:



a. Subject to written contracts, Tupac designated Kenner as his attorney and Knight as his manager.

b. As manager of Tupac, Knight was to cause a contract to be drawn up between Tupac and Death Row (the company which Knight owned and controlled);

c. Tupac would record three record albums for Death Row. The first was to be based on material already recorded; the second would be released in 1996; the third would be released in 1997;

d. Tupac would receive in advance of $1. 0 million for the first record album, in addition to $125,000 for the purchase of a car, a $120,000 expense allowance over a twelve month period, a $250,000 legal fund to be spent as Tupac desired, and the legal services of Kenner on behalf of Tupac;

e. Tupac would be paid a royalty of 18% for sales of the first record album, plus a bonus of 1% of sales if that album sold over 500,000 copies ("Gold"), and an additional 1% of sales if that album sold over one million copies ("Platinum");

f. For the second and third albums, Tupac would be paid an advance of no less than $1.0 million, or $1.0 million for every million copies of the prior album which was sold; and,

g. For both the second and third record albums, Tupac would be paid a royalty of 18% of sales, plus a bonus of l% of sales if that album went Gold, and an additional 1% of sales if that album went Platinum.

Tupac's written statement to Interscope Records.

On September 16, 1995, Knight and Kenner also presented Tupac with a handwritten letter of memorandum to Interscope, which Tupac also signed, which informed Interscope that Knight was Tupac's manager, that Kenner was Tupac's attorney, and that no persons other than Knight and Kenner were authorized to represent Tupac in connection with his music and recordings

Sept. 15, 1995

To: Interscope Records

From: Tupac Shakur

Re: Authorization to Represent Tupac Shakur

This memo will confirm that Suge Knight & David Kenner are the only people authorized to represent me in connection with my music and recording. Suge Knight is my manager and David Kenner my lawyer for these purposes.

Dated: September 16, 1995 /s/ Tupac Shakur

* This is the information on ''The bail'' that was put up to get Tupac out of Danamora Prison until his appeal was heard.

The bail had three components. $850,000 was posted in the form of a corporate guarantee by Atlantic Records; $250,000 was posted by Interscope, and the balance of S300, 000 was posted in the form of a bail bond. All three components were secured by the future royalties to be earned by Tupac.

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

Time to educate you two

Welcome to class

First of all, you two have a clear misunderstanding of the role of a contract as you're attributing accounting to the contract. The contract does not ensure legitimate accounting. Your argument is out of the contract's hands . . a contract sets the parameters for how revenue should be accounting. Accounting is an actual activity. A contract is a piece of paper - a legal agreement. Should this issue go to court it would be litigated by the parameters of the contract

The abuse of Tupac's royalties 100% a result of "clever" accounting

As I'm typing this @LandryFieldsDad further shows that he lacks understanding of the difference between a contract and accounting



for a response to this, see above


There's very few deals you'll find better than the deal that Tupac signed

Now for the only binding facts in

That's great.
He signed a slavery contract and died millions of dollars in debt to death row