Let's be reality. Black feminism is needed. (no trolling please)

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I don't see why any man would have a problem with feminism unless he was no good and treated women like shyt. I see a lot of negative things said about feminism on the Coli (not this thread) guys seem real disturbed by something that's supposed to be positive. It reminds me of how white people probably felt in the beginning of the civil rights movement.

Explain to me the issue some posters have with it.
 

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I don't see why any man would have a problem with feminism unless he was no good and treated women like shyt. I see a lot of negative things said about feminism on the Coli (not this thread) guys seem real disturbed by something that's supposed to be positive. It reminds me of how white people probably felt in the beginning of the civil rights movement.

Explain to me the issue some posters have with it.
name one thing black feminism has successfully accomplished for black women.
 

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I don't see why any man would have a problem with feminism unless he was no good and treated women like shyt. I see a lot of negative things said about feminism on the Coli (not this thread) guys seem real disturbed by something that's supposed to be positive. It reminds me of how white people probably felt in the beginning of the civil rights movement.

Explain to me the issue some posters have with it.
I think SOME men have a problem when they see women attempting to handle their own issues without the help of men.
 

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I don't see why any man would have a problem with feminism unless he was no good and treated women like shyt. I see a lot of negative things said about feminism on the Coli (not this thread) guys seem real disturbed by something that's supposed to be positive. It reminds me of how white people probably felt in the beginning of the civil rights movement.

Explain to me the issue some posters have with it.
the issue is that a lo of people who claim feminism want to force you, shame you, etc into believing what they believe. another issue is the rampant hypocrisy (but to be fair, that's all movements and all people). there's also the general entitlement some people feel (which again is not exclusive to self-proclaimed feminists).
 

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How are u gonna ask me a question when I just asked a question :what:
because my question is relevant to yours. black feminism is useless and has accomplished nothing but the division of the black family unit. which is why you cant name 1 benefit from black feminism.
 

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the issue is that a lo of people who claim feminism want to force you, shame you, etc into believing what they believe. another issue is the rampant hypocrisy (but to be fair, that's all movements and all people). there's also the general entitlement some people feel (which again is not exclusive to self-proclaimed feminists).
Hmmm ok I see. Can u give me some examples as well?
 

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because my question is relevant to yours. black feminism is useless and has accomplished nothing but the division of the black family unit. which is why you cant name 1 benefit from black feminism.
I'm not a feminist at all. I don't know what issues are currently being faced. That's why I asked my initial questions. You came at me trying to prove your little point when I'm in here just trying to simple understand where the hate is coming from. Heck u seem like you know more than me about feminism so u answer your own question.
 

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I'm not a feminist at all. I don't know what issues are currently being faced. That's why I asked my initial questions. You came at me trying to prove your little point when I'm in here just trying to simple understand where the hate is coming from. Heck u seem like you know more than me about feminism so u answer your own question.
most black women are feminist, even if you dont identify yourself as one.

just as yourself this question, do you think black women make better leaders than black men. if you answer yes, there's a good chance you're a feminist.
 

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I'm kinda with @Billy Costigan in that I feel that shyt is dangerous for an already fractured Black community and could potential bring more division that isn't needed. If Black women are able to reconcile their racial unity with the needs and grievances of their gender/sex then that's cool cuz its lots of women's issues that should be addressed and us Black men should be as active as possible to protect, understand, and hold our women down when they need us to.
 

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I wonder what sparked black women to join the feminist movement? :sas2:
a desire to join white women and pretend black men were equally oppressing you; which they didn't have the power to do.

and its like 40 yrs later and y'all still think its your gender, not your skin color thats causing oppression
 

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most black women are feminist, even if you dont identify yourself as one.

just as yourself this question, do you think black women make better leaders than black men. if you answer yes, there's a good chance you're a feminist.
Just curious what do you know of black feminism?
 

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Myths to divert Black women from our own freedom:
1. The Black woman is already liberated.
2. Racism is the primary (or only) oppression Black women have to confront.
3. Feminism is nothing but man-hating.
4. Women's issues are narrow, apolitical concerns. People of color need to deal with the "larger struggle."
5. Those feminists are nothing but Lesbians.

These myths illustrate long-held misconceptions about black women,
including the belief that the extraordinary strength black women have
shown in the face of tremendous oppression reveals their liberation.
In fact, this "freedom"-working outside the home, supporting the
family economically as well as emotionally, and heading the
household-has been thrust upon black women. Women of all races,
classes, nationalities, religions, and ethnicities are sexually
oppressed; black women are no exception. Upon further examination, the
other myths prove to be false. Racism and sexism must be confronted at
the same time; to wait for one to end before working on the other
reflects an incomplete understanding of the way racism and sexism, as
forms of oppression, work to perpetuate each other. Black feminism
struggles against institutionalized, systematic oppression rather than
against a certain group of people, be they white men or men of color.
While it often requires no stretch of the imagination to infer
man-hating in some early (and some recent) feminist writings, the goal
of feminism is the end of sexism. It is only a sane response of an
oppressed people to work toward their own liberation. Finally, the
assumption that feminists are nothing but lesbians reveals the
homophobia which persists in many black communities as well as a
misunderstanding of both lesbians and motivations for joining the
feminist movement.

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